126 replies to this topic

[LameoveR]

I don't care about tiers, but that 9 of 10 loses in last hour with 1\12 kills just frustrate me

[Ghogiel]

Titannium, on 23 September 2015 - 04:27 AM, said:

with my assaults im mostly 300-400 matchscore /600-800 damage. still deep T5.

Post the actual stats.

[TWIAFU]

Titannium, on 23 September 2015 - 04:18 AM, said:

Im trying. result is T5. Pug solo. How much different is group play ?

Over solo queue?

LOL, night and day. Group queue is a totally different game then solo.

Solo queue is the padded helmet wearing short bus in comparison.

[El Bandito]

Titannium, on 23 September 2015 - 04:27 AM, said:

with my assaults im mostly 300-400 matchscore /600-800 damage. still deep T5.

Show the screenshot of your stats.

[Speedy Plysitkos]

QuulDrah, on 23 September 2015 - 04:28 AM, said:

Oh, and since you asked:

Kills/Death - 532/910 (0.58 ratio)
I started playing in spring this year (I do hope my old 2013 matches don't count)

Ever since I got the Mauler-MX90? 72 matches, 1.53 KD ratio in this chassis...

The only KDs above 1.00 are in the Mauler chassis'... I guess I just ain't a light player :-D

Worst: 0.15 in my Sparky (42 matches) if I don't count the ones I only played once or twice...

I started 5/2015. kdr started 0.23, now 0.91. on maulers im also 1.60+.

[Bigbacon]

Titannium, on 23 September 2015 - 04:18 AM, said:

Im trying. result is T5. Pug solo. How much different is group play ?

it can be more of the same, just depends on who you play with and how many vs how many you end up against. Expect more high end builds though but again...group play can be pretty much the same.

Edited by Bigbacon, 23 September 2015 - 04:34 AM.

[Speedy Plysitkos]

El Bandito, on 23 September 2015 - 04:32 AM, said:

Show the screenshot of your stats.

[El Bandito]

Titannium, on 23 September 2015 - 04:36 AM, said:

Negative WLR and KDR, less than 100,000 C-Bills per match... I guess this is T5 material.

Edited by El Bandito, 23 September 2015 - 04:46 AM.

[QuulDrah]

Ok, now compare this with the detailed stats (see my last post).

You will see, that the overall statistics compared against the ones for your favourite chassis alone will differ greatly... I guess

[Ghogiel]

^need to see the mech page too. The main stat page doesn't show dmg info so is only helpful to see the W/L. (yours isn't 50/50 yet which is a big factor to moving up tiers, but if you are new this year then it has all your beginer stats in there to drag it down, so hopefully you have improved since those)

Edited by Ghogiel, 23 September 2015 - 04:47 AM.

[Speedy Plysitkos]

El Bandito, on 23 September 2015 - 04:44 AM, said:

Negative WLR and KDR, less than 100,000 C-Bills and 1000 XP per match.... yeah this is T4-5 material.

With 600-800 damage from assaults. mostly 1-3 places top in match stats. k then.

[El Bandito]

Titannium, on 23 September 2015 - 04:46 AM, said:

With 600-800 damage from assaults. mostly 1-3 places top in match stats. k then.

Doesn't matter. As long as your average stats is mediocre then your tier will remain mediocre. Try to use only your best mechs in a fight if you wish to advance, Ti-fiveium.

[Alek Ituin]

Terciel1976, on 23 September 2015 - 04:16 AM, said:

So long as you believe you can't drive the results of matches, it'll be true.

Belief is not a substitute for results.

[Ghogiel]

Titannium, on 23 September 2015 - 04:46 AM, said:

With 600-800 damage from assaults. mostly 1-3 places top in match stats. k then.

If you are doing that most games your av cbill per match would be much higher. like no sweat +120k av

[Speedy Plysitkos]

Ghogiel, on 23 September 2015 - 04:49 AM, said:

If you are doing that most games your av cbill per match would be much higher. like no sweat +120k av

im doing 150k-200k in maulers. while 50k with lights.

[Erkki]

Denialism will not help you learn, improve and enjoy more.

[Speedy Plysitkos]

El Bandito, on 23 September 2015 - 04:47 AM, said:

Doesn't matter. As long as your average stats is mediocre then your tier will remain mediocre. Try to use only your best mechs in a fight if you wish to advance, Ti-fiveium.

ye, but my best mech cannot carry 11 mouses. I did that a lot of times, killed 5 mechs, 800 damage, still lost the match. many many many times.

[Ghogiel]

Titannium, on 23 September 2015 - 04:53 AM, said:

ye, but my best mech cannot carry 11 mouses. I did that a lot of times, killed 5 mechs, 800 damage, still lost the match. many many many times.

Your PSR would likely have gone up in a game like that even in a loss.

[Paigan]

Titannium, on 23 September 2015 - 03:42 AM, said:

Firstly, system said im Tier5. So be it.

Im doing 600-800 damage with assaults in every second match, sometimes killing 1, sometimes 3-5.
Id like to know, if T1 pilots could write here their average stats, ie KDR + damage and cbills earning (non +30%), to compare.
Id like to know, what exactly is the difference between T5 and T1 gameplay. Why system said im 5.

EDIT: im not willing to be T1. (T4 is all i wanted)

My bet: selective perception / selective memory.

You weight the good matches very strongly in your memory and rule out the bad ones because you see them as "not counting".
Be it 4 bad games for 1 good game doesn't matter. You remember the one good game as "average".

No offense, just a possible explanation.


I saw a guy once on TV who claimed he was a clairvoyant with a success rate of ~70-80%.
Judged from his personal experience, of course.
So they tested him in a REALLY objective way.
And the result was: no special skill AT ALL.

Selective perception can do mean things to you.
Only chance to avoid it: self-reflection, self-criticism, trying hard to be as objective as possible with yourself, even if it hurts.


That being said, the match score system is indeed not accurate at all.
Best example: headshotting 12 mechs would give a rather lousy score, while uselessly LRM-spraying 1000 damage with 0 kills gives the awesome score of 500.
Crap system.




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Titannium, on 23 September 2015 - 04:53 AM, said:

ye, but my best mech cannot carry 11 mouses. I did that a lot of times, killed 5 mechs, 800 damage, still lost the match. many many many times.

Exactely what I mean.
IMHO the problem here is how you perceive yourself and not how the system works.
If you were really THAT good on a regular basis, your tier would go through the roof even despite losing games even in the damage-fixated scoring system.
But you are tier 5, not tier 1.
Don't blame it on the system, but grow up instead.

Edited by Paigan, 23 September 2015 - 05:06 AM.

[LameoveR]

Tier 4 here. Worse than op. Without prem.