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#1 Nightmare1

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Posted 23 September 2015 - 07:35 AM

I just completed my first match post-PSR progress bar. At the end, I had two yellow bars underneath my performance bonus column. What does that mean? Did I gain or lose PSR? I PSR bar looks about the same post match as it did pre-match. Did nothing change at all?

Thanks!

#2 nehebkau

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Posted 23 September 2015 - 07:36 AM

Just think about what you are asking.... If you have 1000, 2000, or 10000 matches how much is 1 match going to affect things? If your PSR is based on your overall performance... you can imagine that it might take a while to budge.

Yellow bars = no change to your PSR
Green up arrow = increase in PSR
Red Down arrow = drop in PSR

Edited by nehebkau, 23 September 2015 - 07:38 AM.


#3 Nightmare1

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Posted 23 September 2015 - 07:48 AM

View Postnehebkau, on 23 September 2015 - 07:36 AM, said:

Just think about what you are asking.... If you have 1000, 2000, or 10000 matches how much is 1 match going to affect things? If your PSR is based on your overall performance... you can imagine that it might take a while to budge.

Yellow bars = no change to your PSR
Green up arrow = increase in PSR
Red Down arrow = drop in PSR


'Preciate the bar breakdown. I know that PSR is based on actual performance, but I saw a couple different threads by pilots who had a significant change to their PSR after just one match. Since that was my own first one, post-bar, I really wasn't sure what to expect.

Oddly enough, I scored 1 kill and 400+ damage that round and got yellow bars for no change. I just finished a second round with just 200+ damage (got ambushed by a Dire in my un-Elited Victor :( ) and got a green arrow. Weird. I would have expected the better round to move me up; not the bad round.

Edited by Nightmare1, 23 September 2015 - 07:48 AM.


#4 LordSkippy

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Posted 23 September 2015 - 08:01 AM

View PostNightmare1, on 23 September 2015 - 07:48 AM, said:

Oddly enough, I scored 1 kill and 400+ damage that round and got yellow bars for no change. I just finished a second round with just 200+ damage (got ambushed by a Dire in my un-Elited Victor :( ) and got a green arrow. Weird. I would have expected the better round to move me up; not the bad round.


The match being a win or a loss has more to do with your PSR going up or down than your match score.

Win, and you barely need to do squat to go up.

Lose, and you have to do pretty well not to go down.

Edited by LordSkippy, 23 September 2015 - 08:02 AM.


#5 Nightmare1

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Posted 23 September 2015 - 08:16 AM

View PostLordSkippy, on 23 September 2015 - 08:01 AM, said:

The match being a win or a loss has more to do with your PSR going up or down than your match score.

Win, and you barely need to do squat to go up.

Lose, and you have to do pretty well not to go down.


Ah, that explains it then.

#6 RePlayBoy101

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Posted 23 September 2015 - 08:57 AM

so t2 good or bad?

#7 El Bandito

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Posted 23 September 2015 - 09:01 AM

View PostRePlayBoy101, on 23 September 2015 - 08:57 AM, said:

so t2 good or bad?


T1 = Good
T2 = Not Good
T3 = Scrubs
T4 = Scrubs and Newcomers
T5 = Scrubs and Smurfs


On a more serious note, the amount of matches one played matters a lot. I have 3000 matches in the current records with a WLR of 1.2, thus T2. If I had played 4000 matches with 1.2 WLR, then I would be in T1.

Edited by El Bandito, 23 September 2015 - 09:03 AM.


#8 Livewyr

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Posted 23 September 2015 - 09:03 AM

My Progress bar visibly moves after each match..

They only go back to January, and I took so many breaks that I probably only have a couple hundred battles this year, including Community Warfare, which doesn't count.

(I did a pixel comparison in paint.. it visibly moves.)

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Posted 23 September 2015 - 09:05 AM

View PostEl Bandito, on 23 September 2015 - 09:01 AM, said:


T1 = Good
T2 = Not Good
T3 = Scrubs
T4 = Scrubs and Newcomers
T5 = Scrubs and Smurfs


On a more serious note, the amount of matches one played matters a lot.

how much till i hit t1?

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#10 El Bandito

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Posted 23 September 2015 - 09:06 AM

View PostRePlayBoy101, on 23 September 2015 - 09:05 AM, said:

how much till i hit t1?

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How many matches did you play in total starting from January?

#11 RePlayBoy101

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Posted 23 September 2015 - 09:08 AM

View PostEl Bandito, on 23 September 2015 - 09:06 AM, said:



How many matches did you play in total starting from January?


400-500

#12 Almond Brown

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Posted 23 September 2015 - 09:11 AM

View PostEl Bandito, on 23 September 2015 - 09:01 AM, said:


stuffs

On a more serious note, the amount of matches one played matters a lot. I have 3000 matches in the current records with a WLR of 1.2, thus T2. If I had played 4000 matches with 1.2 WLR, then I would be in T1.


Seems about right. I have 2100 Matches (sans Archive) and 1.14 WLR and am showing T3 (with bar 3/4 full).

Will have to keep an eye on future movement based on result, good or bad. ;)

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Posted 23 September 2015 - 09:11 AM

View PostLordSkippy, on 23 September 2015 - 08:01 AM, said:

The match being a win or a loss has more to do with your PSR going up or down than your match score.

Win, and you barely need to do squat to go up.

Lose, and you have to do pretty well not to go down.

This does seem to be the case, but I had thought that Personal Skill in PSR meant that w/l didn't matter as much as my performance. So basically they just made another Elo system with lots of fancy numbers to disguise what is happening?

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Posted 23 September 2015 - 09:16 AM

Lose match with highest score on team, take hit to rank.

Edited by Blackhound, 23 September 2015 - 09:16 AM.


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Posted 23 September 2015 - 09:18 AM

View PostBlackhound, on 23 September 2015 - 09:16 AM, said:

Lose match with highest score on team, take hit to rank.


i only get an =... good or bad?

Edited by RePlayBoy101, 23 September 2015 - 09:19 AM.


#16 Nightmare1

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Posted 23 September 2015 - 09:21 AM

I'm disappointed. I thought PSR was supposed to move up if you did well on a loss, and move down if you did poorly on a win. Instead, it seems little different from ELO since it's tied largely to your W/L. :(

#17 Kira Onime

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Posted 23 September 2015 - 09:25 AM

View PostNightmare1, on 23 September 2015 - 07:35 AM, said:

I just completed my first match post-PSR progress bar. At the end, I had two yellow bars underneath my performance bonus column. What does that mean? Did I gain or lose PSR? I PSR bar looks about the same post match as it did pre-match. Did nothing change at all?

Thanks!



It's an equal sign.... you know, this -> =
Means your PSR stayed equal to what it was previously.

View PostEl Bandito, on 23 September 2015 - 09:01 AM, said:


T1 = Good
T2 = Not T1
T3 = Not T1
T4 = Not T1
T5 = Not T1



FTFY

View PostBlackhound, on 23 September 2015 - 09:16 AM, said:

Lose match with highest score on team, take hit to rank.


This performance on a loss made the PSR go up.
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#18 Nightmare1

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Posted 23 September 2015 - 09:27 AM

View PostKira_Onime, on 23 September 2015 - 09:25 AM, said:



It's an equal sign.... you know, this -> =
Means your PSR stayed equal to what it was previously.




Thanks, I got it sorted now. When I saw the bars initially, I thought that maybe the system would incorporate a bar system like a single bar, double bars, and triple bars to indicate status. I figured it out after my second match though. :lol:

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Posted 23 September 2015 - 09:28 AM

View PostEl Bandito, on 23 September 2015 - 09:01 AM, said:



T1 = Good
T2 = Not Good
T3 = Scrubs
T4 = Scrubs and Newcomers
T5 = Scrubs and Smurfs


On a more serious note, the amount of matches one played matters a lot. I have 3000 matches in the current records with a WLR of 1.2, thus T2. If I had played 4000 matches with 1.2 WLR, then I would be in T1.

People keep saying this, and I'm not entirely sure it's true. W/L 3,814 / 3,486 and I'm at the high end of tier 4. Of course I have no idea how much of that is since January.

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Posted 23 September 2015 - 09:30 AM

View PostBlackhound, on 23 September 2015 - 09:16 AM, said:

Lose match with highest score on team, take hit to rank.


Well you did still "contribute" to the Loss. ;)





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