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[Haazheel IIC]

Played a few hours and i love it! Alpha strike in the back feels very satisfying, killed one pilot with a critical headshot (only once)..yea i had a blast so far! Nothing to complain

[NocturnalBeast]

Haazheel, on 02 June 2017 - 11:12 AM, said:

Played a few hours and i love it! Alpha strike in the back feels very satisfying, killed one pilot with a critical headshot (only once)..yea i had a blast so far! Nothing to complain

Yes, there are a few bugs like the Atlas sprinting as fast as a locust, but not bad for an early beta.

[PanzerTC]

12 games 4 losses. Fun so far. Needs some tweaking, but that is what those Beta Reports are for. Taking all the chances to provide some input. I hope it helps.

[Kilo 40]

beyond the turned based nature of both games, I almost feel like it's XCOM with mechs.

That's not a complaint.

[John Archer]

I just bought the beta tier and am about to play!


I hope it lives up to my expectations and more!

[NocturnalBeast]

John Archer, on 03 June 2017 - 05:20 PM, said:

I just bought the beta tier and am about to play!


I hope it lives up to my expectations and more!

Just remember that it is not the final product. Make sure you report any bugs you find too.

[chucklesMuch]

Been really enjoying the beta!

Very much looking forward to the rest of the game. I so want in at the rest of single player stuff and the mechlab

It's a little weird playing builds and mechs that wouldn't touch in mwo... and enjoying using lots of lrms lol

Edited by chucklesMuch, 03 June 2017 - 08:35 PM.

[Kaethir]

I reported a bug... managed to make 2 mechs occupy the same spot.

[NocturnalBeast]

Most fun match I have had was with two medium lances (I forget which). I had the one with a Centurion, Orion, Commando and Hunchback. Hunchbacks are just plain awesome in 3025 and Orions are not bad either. The Centurion-A was surprisingly good, much more useful than in MWO.

[Aramuside]

Ed Steele, on 05 June 2017 - 11:29 PM, said:

Most fun match I have had was with two medium lances (I forget which). I had the one with a Centurion, Orion, Commando and Hunchback. Hunchbacks are just plain awesome in 3025 and Orions are not bad either. The Centurion-A was surprisingly good, much more useful than in MWO.

RNG and no ability to just shoot the hump?

[invernomuto]

I've seen some gameplay videos. Not impressed by the enemy AI, but it's a must buy for me. I won't partecipate to the early beta though, 60$ to report bugs it's too expensive for me. You should pay less if you help the devs reporting bugs, not more...

[MustrumRidcully]

Ed Steele, on 02 June 2017 - 08:52 AM, said:

What, a pilot can't get a lucky shot?

A lucky shot could be something like hitting despite a low hit probability. Somethnig with a mangeable impact. A lucky hit being a head shot that removes a pristine mech from the game is not acceptable if you only got 4 mechs to play with.

Why bother with a complex rule system, setting up a battle field, and planning your moves, if the end result is just a result of chance that could negate every decision you made?

Of course there should be random elements - but their impact must be manageable and overall the final sucess must come from the decisions made by the peope playing the game, not the dice rolls.

Edited by MustrumRidcully, 06 June 2017 - 03:21 AM.

[Karl Streiger]

MustrumRidcully, on 06 June 2017 - 03:18 AM, said:

A lucky shot could be something like hitting despite a low hit probability. Somethnig with a mangeable impact. A lucky hit being a head shot that removes a pristine mech from the game is not acceptable if you only got 4 mechs to play with.

Why bother with a complex rule system, setting up a battle field, and planning your moves, if the end result is just a result of chance that could negate every decision you made?

Of course there should be random elements - but their impact must be manageable and overall the final sucess must come from the decisions made by the peope playing the game, not the dice rolls.

QFT

Although I feel that is much better manageable compared to the real dice rolling in TT.
When you move to the side arc of a target much more shots will hit that location. In TT it did happen that you suddenly only hit the other flank (luck)
or you did accept risks to get in the rear of a target only to hit legs or arms.

Same with PSR - missed a roll of +4 and you hunchback crumbled got damaged and the ammo went critical.

The main reason I started (to try to convert TT to something else was to get rid of dice rolls - keep the statistic drop the luck)

[MustrumRidcully]

I think you can keep dice rolls, you just have to think about what you roll for, what your spread is in probabilities.

For example, somethnig ike a (deadly) head shot should probably just not be something that happens just because you roll on some hit location table. Too random.

But if you said... "Target must be shut down, prone or unstable, you must be within 3 Hex of the target if you're at low heat and haven't run or jumped this turn. Then you can shoot only one weapon, and then you can roll an attack against the head."

If you are okay with "non-simulationist" rules you could have Pilots with a "Decapitation" special ability that allows them to a head shot once per match. Say, roll a difficult target number if some conditions are met, you fire only one gun this turn. If you succeed, you hit the head, if you fail, you can try again next turn - but of course, you're spending a lot of time where you could have dealt a lot of damage instead of trying to get that magic head shot. If you fight with larger mech groups, this might also be okay.

The point is such a critical event should be something that is based primarily on player decisions that actively lead to the situation, and only secondary due to randomness.

[PeeWrinkle]

I am loving it so far. I actually have no problems with the lucky shot.
It does seem like you are more likely to get devastatingly lucky crits with MGs and SRMs!. Then LRMs and ACs.
Lasers and PPC seem tremendously under powered to me so far. I will say they are great if you knock a mech down with your missiles then the next mech targets with MLs!

All in all it is not overly buggy. I have had a couple matches were at around turn 8-12 the enemy mechs just move and don't attack. I reported it of course.

The exciting thing to me is this is just a small sample of the game and it seems to be pretty well polished. It makes me think the game will be pretty amazing upon final release!

[Aramuside]

MustrumRidcully, on 06 June 2017 - 03:18 AM, said:

A lucky shot could be something like hitting despite a low hit probability. Somethnig with a mangeable impact. A lucky hit being a head shot that removes a pristine mech from the game is not acceptable if you only got 4 mechs to play with.

Why bother with a complex rule system, setting up a battle field, and planning your moves, if the end result is just a result of chance that could negate every decision you made?

Of course there should be random elements - but their impact must be manageable and overall the final sucess must come from the decisions made by the peope playing the game, not the dice rolls.

This is a recreation of the table top game though and removing critical hits and RNG would essentially involve having a different game - MWO sounds more up your street as thats "skill based".

[Icantswim]

So I was browsing youtube recently
and I found a video that is no
doubt some of you might find mildly
entertaining. It's from a
recent E3 event.

Quote

You get around the back of a battlemech and BAM! Penetrate!