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[Scout Derek]

This is the Moderator me Talking, and it's saying, please stop making threads such as this and this, and even this.

It's considered a Violation of the CoC, and I doubt anyone wants to see Spam such as this in the forums.


This thread is going to be talk about ALL Unseen Mechs, and I'd like to keep it that way.

For now I'm going to be closing all other threads Relevant to the Topic of unseen (and the Flea and Redirect the talk of them to this thread.

I will quote all the Player's Topics Appropriately here to continue off from the start.

If I continue to see topics as shown in the links above, I'll be forced to give out Warnings on top of closing your threads. ( I don't do this to abuse my power, I'm doing it because it clogs the forums)

Rhaythe, on 06 October 2015 - 09:42 AM, said:

The Flea? *Crickets*

reign, on 06 October 2015 - 09:26 AM, said:

We just got 2 Unseen s that are heavies. Lets move up something bigger

This was by far my favorite destriod inside the 100 ton range.

and would give us an assault in this batch of mechs

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Longbow








LGB - 0C
2 x (m) R and L arms
1 x (m) R and L torso
2 x (e) CT


LGB - 0W
3 x (m) R and L arms
1 x (m) R and L torso


LGB - 7V
1 x (m) R and L arms
3 x (e) R and L Torsos
1 x (e) CT

Lootee, on 06 October 2015 - 09:45 AM, said:

Ostscout. 35 tons, hella fast at 129kph with JJs. Comes with 1 medium laser or a TAG. So much win.

Stefka Kerensky, on 01 October 2015 - 11:48 PM, said:

Thank you, PGI for let me pilot the Black Widow!

But you could make another dream of mine come true.

the PHOENIX HAWK!
"First introduced by the Terran Hegemony in 2568^[1], the Phoenix Hawk is one of the most well known BattleMechs in the Inner Sphere. The 'Mech began life when Orguss Industries realized that it could reinforce the Stinger chassis to create a larger version with a top speed of 97.2 km/h and a jumping distance of 180 meters, giving it the same speed profile as the Stinger with a more potent arsenal. After the Phoenix Hawk started reaching its various deployments, the 'Mech's full potential was discovered, and it became known as a command 'Mech for unit commanders due to the presence of the advanced communications suite on-board. However, it also became a staple of reconnaissance. Lance commanders often utilize it because it is capable of keeping up with 'Mechs like the Stinger and Wasp while carrying considerably more firepower."




I'm a medium pilot, I'd really appreciate the possibility to pilot the mech I used to many times in so many matches in TT: PXH-3D (2erLL+2mpl).
Great speed, great jumping, maneuverability, always fresh.

"270 stock engine" means 360 engine cap (or am I wrong?), giving it max speed 129.6kph, 172kph with MASC (LOL)

PXH-3S has MASC and 3 energy hardpoints+2ballistic

We could even have hero version: PXH-3M Masters (sadly the Sante is available in 3067)


PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEZ!

Bishop Steiner, on 06 October 2015 - 09:10 AM, said:

Mind you, I would prefer to see the Phoenix Hawk next, spread the love to other weight classes besides Heavy.

But out of the remaining "HG Unseen" Heavies, the Rifleman, Ostroc, Ostsol, Crusader and Archer, I would argue that the Crusader is far and away the most interesting.



1) Out of the remaining Heavies, it has the best potential for really good hitboxes. Look at the Arms. Particularly the shoulders. The key to a mech's durability lies right there. Obviously having magnetic CTs are bad, but having well distributed torso hitboxes with massive ape hanger arms, is KEY to tankiness. The Crusader could deliver this in spades. Crusader SHOULD, have the best hitboxes of the remaining options.

2) Tactical Versatility. It packs all 3 weapon types. No, it doesn't get Jagermech arms like the Rifleman, or potentially high CT lasers like the Archer, but most models have some variety of all 3 hardpoints types, Missile, Energy; Ballistics.

3) Jump jets. Several models can jump, adding to tactical versatility.

3 sample models: (Leg mounted missiles moved to torsos cuz MWO)
1) CRD-3R
-2x LRM15 (RA/LA), 2x SRM6 (RT/LT), 2x MLaser (RA/LA), 2x MG (RA/LA)

-RT: 1x M,
-LT: 1x M, 1x AMS,
-RA: 2x M, 1x E, 1x B
-LA: 2x M, 1x E, 1x B

2) CRD-3L
-2x LRM10 (RA/LA), 2x SRM4 (RT/LT), 2x MLaser (RA/LA), 2x MG (RA/LA) and 4x JJ

-RT: 1x M, 2x JJ
-LT: 1x M, 1x AMS, 2x JJ
-RA: 1x M, 1x E, 1x B
-LA: 1x M, 1x E, 1x B

3) CRD-5M
-2x LRM15 (RA/LA), 2x SSRM2 (RT/LT), 2x Mlaser (RA/LA), 1x Flamer (RA), 1x MG (RA), 1x AMS (H)

-RT:1x M, 2x JJ
-LT: 1x M, 1x AMS, 2x JJ
-RA: 1x M, 1x B, 2x E
-LA: 1x M, 1x E
-H: 1x AMS

And a few potential Heroes to choose from, such as Galen Cox, or my choice:
Captain Miko Umcizi
A descendant of the ancient Zulu chieftains, Captain Umcizi keeps his heritage alive by decorating his Crusader, the Shaka, in traditional Zulu style. The other members of Alpha Company, 1st Battalion, 5th Crucis Lancers, have also adopted the Zulu decorations, giving the unit the nickname, "The Impe".

Umcizi is a fitting commander for the company. Impressively tall, he wears the traditional leopardskin cloak of a Zulu chief draped around his shoulders, and drives his unit to the limits of their endurance. This style of leadership has won the unit many victories and many decorations from House Davion. Though his MechWarriors may grumble at times, they are devoted to their commander, and would follow him to hell itself.


Thoughts?

Scout Derek, on 05 October 2015 - 08:39 AM, said:

With the arrival of the Warhammer and Marauder, which Unseen of these two do you think or want next?

The Rifleman, a smaller but more energy based Chassis of the Jagermech?

Or the Archer, a heavier Inner Sphere Version that is Similar to the Mad-Dog(Vulture)?


I'm up for the Archer, The Inner Sphere needs a heavier Missile mech that can take damage and be versatile unlike the Catapult in many cases.

Edited by Scout Derek, 06 October 2015 - 10:45 AM.

[reign]

Wow, not even the Moderator likes the longbow

[Alan Davion]

reign, on 06 October 2015 - 10:01 AM, said:

Wow, not even the Moderator likes the longbow

No, that's not it at all. Derek specifically stated that he's doing this to cut down on the number of more-or-less identical threads that have been popping up lately.

[Bishop Steiner]

Scout Derek, on 06 October 2015 - 10:00 AM, said:

This is the Moderator me Talking, and it's saying, please stop making threads such as this and this, and even this.

It's considered a Violation of the CoC, and I doubt anyone wants to see Spam such as this in the forums.


This thread is going to be talk about ALL Unseen Mechs, and I'd like to keep it that way.

For now I'm going to be closing all other threads Relevant to the Topic of unseen (and the Flea and Redirect the talk of them to this thread.

I will quote all the Player's Topics Appropriately here to continue off from the start.

If I continue to see topics as shown in the links above, I'll be forced to give out Warnings on top of closing your threads. ( I don't do this to abuse my power, I'm doing it because it clogs the forums)

hey!! But mine was the original! Everyone else was just imitators! I'm the rel slim shady!

[Kraftwerkedup]

I wish you guys cared as much about the stuff already in the game thats broken or doesnt function adequately.

Theres still mechs that are all but unpilotable. Kintaro. Vindicator. Id love to see those mechs be worthwhile before adding more mechs. Maybe fix Pinpoint, Flamers, MGs, small lasers on unquirked mechs. Badders. Ice Ferrets.

Of course...that doesnt make PGI any money. *sigh*

But seriously theres plenty of problems with the game, that arent fixed by more mechs.

[reign]

Alan Davion, on 06 October 2015 - 10:03 AM, said:

No, that's not it at all. Derek specifically stated that he's doing this to cut down on the number of more-or-less identical threads that have been popping up lately.

Yeah but one was missed.. the one about the Longbow. and not quoted... Fated to fade away into infinity...

[Scout Derek]

reign, on 06 October 2015 - 10:01 AM, said:

Wow, not even the Moderator likes the longbow

Alan Davion, on 06 October 2015 - 10:03 AM, said:

No, that's not it at all. Derek specifically stated that he's doing this to cut down on the number of more-or-less identical threads that have been popping up lately.

What Alan Davion said.

Right now I could have been more strict and gave everyone a Warning about making duplicate topics.

[Sarlic]

I just noticed i got trolled in the other thread without looking.



Claps claps claps Derek. Thanks for bringing to attention.

Edited by Sarlic, 06 October 2015 - 10:06 AM.

[Scout Derek]

reign, on 06 October 2015 - 10:04 AM, said:

Yeah but one was missed.. the one about the Longbow. and not quoted... Fated to fade away into infinity...

Excuse me, I'll fix that in a minute.

[Kraftwerkedup]

Scout Derek, on 06 October 2015 - 10:05 AM, said:

Right now I could have been more strict and gave everyone a Warning about making duplicate topics.

I can see how the forums were totally going to fall apart if you didnt step in and fix everything.

Edited by Kraftwerkedup, 06 October 2015 - 10:07 AM.

[reign]

Scout Derek, on 06 October 2015 - 10:06 AM, said:

Excuse me, I'll fix that in a minute.

TY!

[Bishop Steiner]

Kraftwerkedup, on 06 October 2015 - 10:04 AM, said:

I wish you guys cared as much about the stuff already in the game thats broken or doesnt function adequately.

Theres still mechs that are all but unpilotable. Kintaro. Vindicator. Id love to see those mechs be worthwhile before adding more mechs. Maybe fix Pinpoint, Flamers, MGs, small lasers on unquirked mechs. Badders. Ice Ferrets.

Of course...that doesnt make PGI any money. *sigh*

But seriously theres plenty of problems with the game, that arent fixed by more mechs.

or maybe, we can chew gum and walk at the same time? Talking about one thing does not require ignoring others.

But by all means, I'm sure your complaining is doing LOTS to help fix the balance issues. Care to link us to all your balance idea threads?

[Karl Marlow]

Kraftwerkedup, on 06 October 2015 - 10:04 AM, said:

I wish you guys cared as much about the stuff already in the game thats broken or doesnt function adequately.

Theres still mechs that are all but unpilotable. Kintaro. Vindicator. Id love to see those mechs be worthwhile before adding more mechs. Maybe fix Pinpoint, Flamers, MGs, small lasers on unquirked mechs. Badders. Ice Ferrets.

Of course...that doesnt make PGI any money. *sigh*

But seriously theres plenty of problems with the game, that arent fixed by more mechs.

He's the Moderator. This is his job.

[Dawnstealer]

Scout Derek, on 06 October 2015 - 10:00 AM, said:

This is the Moderator me Talking, and it's saying, please stop making threads such as this and this, and even this.

It's considered a Violation of the CoC, and I doubt anyone wants to see Spam such as this in the forums.


This thread is going to be talk about ALL Unseen Mechs, and I'd like to keep it that way.

For now I'm going to be closing all other threads Relevant to the Topic of unseen (and the Flea and Redirect the talk of them to this thread.

I will quote all the Player's Topics Appropriately here to continue off from the start.

If I continue to see topics as shown in the links above, I'll be forced to give out Warnings on top of closing your threads. ( I don't do this to abuse my power, I'm doing it because it clogs the forums)

I see no mention of a Hatchetman in this discussion.

Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut...fine: Archer's fun because it's heavier than a Catapult, has articulating arms with LAZORS, and high-mounted missile-ports. Should be pretty fun.

Crusader...dunno, never really loved that mech and having the missiles on the (likely low-slung) arms, means that'll be rocketing off into whatever cover you're standing behind. It's an iconic mech, but...meh - not sure it would be all that cool in this particular game. I know the purists would want it, though.

Longbow...like a fat Catapult. A Fatapult.

Stinger, Wasp, Phoenix Hawk...the Phoenix Hawk would be cool, I suppose. Actually, any of them could be interesting. Ultra-light jumpers in the case of the Stinger and the Wasp might be interesting, since neither the Commando or Locust are capable of it.

[Otto Cannon]

Regarding the Crusader, I love it almost as much as the Archer. I'd probably like it even better if my main memory of it wasn't the spectacular ammo explosion meltdowns it tended to suffer early in every game.

[Bishop Steiner]

Scout Derek, on 06 October 2015 - 10:06 AM, said:

Excuse me, I'll fix that in a minute.

should probably pin it...might help reduce the duplicate topics. Since no one can be bothered to look more than 4-5 topics down around here.

[Kraftwerkedup]

You

Bishop Steiner, on 06 October 2015 - 10:08 AM, said:

or maybe, we can chew gum and walk at the same time? Talking about one thing does not require ignoring others.

But by all means, I'm sure your complaining is doing LOTS to help fix the balance issues. Care to link us to all your balance idea threads?

You do realize im an Alt right?

Look up McGral and FupDups many balance posts.

Obviously the guy making the models, is not the guy doing the fixing. Which is why its even more ridiculous this stuff still isnt fixed.

Every mech that comes out, while Pinpoint still does nothing, is a disgrace

Wheres the thread bloat over that issue? When was the last time a moderator had to condense all those threads into one thread? Im not saying you dont care about those things, im just saying I wish you guys would care more about them than you do Unseen mechs.

Its neat. We get it. But we already, with variants, have hundreds of mechs. Theres mechs that are basically unused. Id like to see those have life breathed into them rather than gushing over mechs. Its nice theyre coming back to the Franchise. Its less nice that Vindicators, are rubbish.

Every new mech. Is the Catapult's VCRs still crying, and the Nova still needing to be resized. Not to mention so many others geometry that needs fixing that IS the guy making the new mechs.

Shrink the Vindicator and Ice Ferret? Thats a start. Resizing mechs should come before new mechs. Even the Unseen.

Edited by Kraftwerkedup, 06 October 2015 - 10:14 AM.

[Dawnstealer]

Kraftwerkedup, on 06 October 2015 - 10:12 AM, said:

Every mech that comes out, while Pinpoint still does nothing, is a disgrace

You know what's sad? I've been playing this game...what? Two years? And NEVER noticed that.

[STEF_]

Stefka's Phoenix Hawk thread!

http://mwomercs.com/...37#entry4737537

It must be the next unseen, because:

1) I like it sooooo much

2) read that thread for "secondary" but good reasons

Edited by Stefka Kerensky, 06 October 2015 - 10:14 AM.

[Bishop Steiner]

Kraftwerkedup, on 06 October 2015 - 10:12 AM, said:

You

You do realize im an Alt right?

Look up McGral and FupDup. You can check out KraftySOTs balance videos in the PTS forums.

Obviously the guy making the models, is not the guy doing the fixing. Which is why its even more ridiculous this stuff still isnt fixed.

Every mech that comes out, while Pinpoint still does nothing, is a disgrace

Wheres the thread bloat over that issue? When was the last time a moderator had to condense all those threads into one thread? Im not saying you dont care about those things, im just saying I wish you guys would care more about them than you do Unseen mechs.

Its neat. We get it. But we already, with variants, have hundreds of mechs. Theres mechs that are basically unused. Id like to see those have life breathed into them rather than gushing over mechs. Its nice theyre coming back to the Franchise. Its less nice that Vindicators, are rubbish.

so, you claiming to be McGral, Fup and Krafty in one? Cuz otherwise, where are YOUR contributions?

And you comment about contributing to bloat?

And you acknowledge that game modelers ain't the ones fixing the balance...so ummm,. again, why can't we talk about both?