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#21 Kraftwerkedup

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Posted 06 October 2015 - 10:18 AM

View PostDawnstealer, on 06 October 2015 - 10:13 AM, said:

You know what's sad? I've been playing this game...what? Two years? And NEVER noticed that. :o


Its even worse than that. It used to work. Then they ripped out convergence because the guy who made it dipped, and they took it out to 'improve hitreg' (which it did to a degree). Its convoluted, but thats no excuse for it not doing anything for well over a year.

View PostBishop Steiner, on 06 October 2015 - 10:14 AM, said:

so, you claiming to be McGral, Fup and Krafty in one? Cuz otherwise, where are YOUR contributions?

And you comment about contributing to bloat?

And you acknowledge that game modelers ain't the ones fixing the balance...so ummm,. again, why can't we talk about both?


Im not any of those people. Im saying they all have contributed excellent balance posts. Im just saying im not my post count. Ive been here since right after CB.

Ive made thousands of posts, and hundreds of balance posts, made dozens of videos, and streamed hundreds of hours.

None of that matters. This is bordering on ad hominem.

Even if I had no idea how to balance the game, the fact that the game is unbalanced, still remains. The guy making the Warhammer, could be resizing and correcting the Catapult et all. Instead of making the Warhammers right arm. He could be changing the VCRs. He could be resizing the Vindicator. He could be testing the Vindicator with a higher engine cap and new hardpoints. He could be working on the general rescaling pass.

Edited by Kraftwerkedup, 06 October 2015 - 10:19 AM.


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Posted 06 October 2015 - 10:20 AM

View PostDawnstealer, on 06 October 2015 - 10:10 AM, said:

I see no mention of a Hatchetman in this discussion.


Stinger, Wasp, Phoenix Hawk...the Phoenix Hawk would be cool, I suppose. Actually, any of them could be interesting. Ultra-light jumpers in the case of the Stinger and the Wasp might be interesting, since neither the Commando or Locust are capable of it.

Maybe because this is a thread about unseen mechs and I'm reasonably sure the Hatchetman was never one of those. But yes, I agree with the last part. I definitely would like the Stinger, Wasp, and Phoenix Hawk. Then I could slap on all the JJs possibly can on them because that's as close to an LAM as I'm likely to get :(

#23 Kraftwerkedup

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Posted 06 October 2015 - 10:22 AM

I thought the Unseen included the Axeman and Hatcheman. Along with the Firebee, Cyclops, Stinger, etc...theres quite a verbose list.

We already have some of them in the game.

#24 C E Dwyer

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Posted 06 October 2015 - 10:23 AM

View Postreign, on 06 October 2015 - 10:01 AM, said:

Wow, not even the Moderator likes the longbow :(

If it's true then the moderator has good taste

#25 STEF_

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Posted 06 October 2015 - 10:26 AM

View PostScout Derek, on 06 October 2015 - 10:00 AM, said:

This is the Moderator me Talking, and it's saying, please stop making threads such as this and this, and even this.


Why haven't you linked a thread about the Phoenix Hawk?
http://mwomercs.com/...37#entry4737537

Because you don't like the PXH?
or because you don't read thread about ALL unseen but rifleman or Archer only?

or because spamming archer and rifleman everywhere, pgi will make you happy?

:P

#26 PurpleNinja

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Posted 06 October 2015 - 10:27 AM

View PostScout Derek, on 06 October 2015 - 10:00 AM, said:

...and I doubt anyone wants to see Spam such as this in the forums.

I don't think you know how the Internet works.

I vote for the Crusader BTW.

#27 0bsidion

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Posted 06 October 2015 - 10:30 AM

View PostKraftwerkedup, on 06 October 2015 - 10:22 AM, said:

I thought the Unseen included the Axeman and Hatcheman. Along with the Firebee, Cyclops, Stinger, etc...theres quite a verbose list.

We already have some of them in the game.

According to sarna.net the only one on that list you got right is the Stinger. http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Unseen

#28 Davers

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Posted 06 October 2015 - 10:33 AM

View PostKraftwerkedup, on 06 October 2015 - 10:22 AM, said:

I thought the Unseen included the Axeman and Hatcheman. Along with the Firebee, Cyclops, Stinger, etc...theres quite a verbose list.

We already have some of them in the game.

Cyclops isn't Unseen. Hatchetman and Axeman just have no place in a game without melee. Firebee just isn't in the current timeline.

#29 WarHippy

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Posted 06 October 2015 - 10:34 AM

View PostKraftwerkedup, on 06 October 2015 - 10:04 AM, said:

I wish you guys cared as much about the stuff already in the game thats broken or doesnt function adequately.

Theres still mechs that are all but unpilotable. Kintaro. Vindicator. Id love to see those mechs be worthwhile before adding more mechs. Maybe fix Pinpoint, Flamers, MGs, small lasers on unquirked mechs. Badders. Ice Ferrets.

Of course...that doesnt make PGI any money. *sigh*

But seriously theres plenty of problems with the game, that arent fixed by more mechs.

View PostBishop Steiner, on 06 October 2015 - 10:08 AM, said:

or maybe, we can chew gum and walk at the same time? Talking about one thing does not require ignoring others.

But by all means, I'm sure your complaining is doing LOTS to help fix the balance issues. Care to link us to all your balance idea threads?

Guys do try to keep on topic and avoid the pissing contest.


View PostKraftwerkedup, on 06 October 2015 - 10:22 AM, said:

I thought the Unseen included the Axeman and Hatcheman. Along with the Firebee, Cyclops, Stinger, etc...theres quite a verbose list.

We already have some of them in the game.
There is a large list of Unseen mechs, but the Axeman, Hatchetman, and Cyclops are not on it.
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Unseen

#30 Scout Derek

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Posted 06 October 2015 - 10:34 AM

View PostStefka Kerensky, on 06 October 2015 - 10:26 AM, said:

Why haven't you linked a thread about the Phoenix Hawk?
http://mwomercs.com/...37#entry4737537

Because you don't like the PXH?
or because you don't read thread about ALL unseen but rifleman or Archer only?

or because spamming archer and rifleman everywhere, pgi will make you happy?

:P

Just got on a few days ago and didn't even see that thread, I'll be linking it and closing it shortly then if you want.

and by the way, Moderators can have their opinions as well, I'm still a fresh moderator and don't see everything you know.

#31 Scout Derek

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Posted 06 October 2015 - 10:43 AM

View PostDawnstealer, on 06 October 2015 - 10:10 AM, said:

I see no mention of a Hatchetman in this discussion.

I just quoted all posts relating to the Unseen, I didn't say you couldn't talk about it.

Phoenix Hawk quoted.

#32 STEF_

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Posted 06 October 2015 - 10:48 AM

View PostScout Derek, on 06 October 2015 - 10:34 AM, said:

Just got on a few days ago and didn't even see that thread, I'll be linking it and closing it shortly then if you want.

and by the way, Moderators can have their opinions as well, I'm still a fresh moderator and don't see everything you know.

hahaha, don't worry, I was joking :)

the troll spirit was in me, meanwhile waiting for my new mechs!

#33 CDLord HHGD

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Posted 06 October 2015 - 11:02 AM

I didn't know the Flea was unseen.....

#34 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 06 October 2015 - 11:05 AM

View PostKraftwerkedup, on 06 October 2015 - 10:22 AM, said:

I thought the Unseen included the Axeman and Hatcheman. Along with the Firebee, Cyclops, Stinger, etc...theres quite a verbose list.

We already have some of them in the game.

out of those...only the Stinger is unseen.

#35 Scout Derek

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Posted 06 October 2015 - 11:08 AM

View Postcdlord, on 06 October 2015 - 11:02 AM, said:

I didn't know the Flea was unseen.....

I added in the Flea since someone made a thread on it.

It's also pun intended as well.

#36 CDLord HHGD

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Posted 06 October 2015 - 11:14 AM

View PostScout Derek, on 06 October 2015 - 11:08 AM, said:

I added in the Flea since someone made a thread on it.

It's also pun intended as well.

I couldn't help myself. :)

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Posted 06 October 2015 - 11:20 AM

Phoenix Hawk. Not really interested in more heavies. The longbow, though, would be something interesting to see.

But mostly the Phoenix Hawk.

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Posted 06 October 2015 - 11:38 AM

Rifleman IIC or Galahad for Clans.

Clans need a jagermech counterpart that isn't garbage.

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Posted 06 October 2015 - 11:42 AM

Would love to see a MWO archer design close to this:

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Posted 06 October 2015 - 12:09 PM

View PostTennex, on 06 October 2015 - 11:42 AM, said:

Would love to see a MWO archer design close to this:

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Been a while since we've had a mech we had to open some missile doors for (RIP cool CN9). Would be a nice addition.





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