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#121 Oberost

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Posted 07 October 2015 - 08:35 AM

View PostRoboPatton, on 07 October 2015 - 08:23 AM, said:

Crab also has has magnetic ST's, unlike the Cicada.


Really?

I've played 10 games with it and I've changed al the STD engines to XL ones. I tried to torso twist hard only to find that the Ct eats all the damage.

Maybe I'm doing wrong but I'm only died of a ST loss once.

#122 Tennex

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Posted 07 October 2015 - 08:38 AM

View PostGhogiel, on 07 October 2015 - 08:22 AM, said:

I have posted all this on the forums 3 years ago.


its not a help if there is no list of mech volumes

#123 zagibu

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Posted 07 October 2015 - 08:42 AM

View PostGhogiel, on 07 October 2015 - 08:22 AM, said:

I have posted all this on the forums 3 years ago.

Still worthless without source.

#124 Ghogiel

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Posted 07 October 2015 - 08:50 AM

View PostTennex, on 07 October 2015 - 08:38 AM, said:


its not a help if there is no list of mech volumes

I'm not making a list. Even that wouldn't help. lol demonstrating how STK CPLT CN9s compare in volume to each other did didly and squat to 'help' stop people talking out their asses about comparison mech volumes :lol:

View Postzagibu, on 07 October 2015 - 08:42 AM, said:

Still worthless without source.

Are you disabled and cant use search?

#125 Tennex

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Posted 07 October 2015 - 08:55 AM

View Postzagibu, on 07 October 2015 - 08:42 AM, said:

Still worthless without source.


Lol ignore him, hes just here for bragging rights. Or hasn't really figured anything out

Either way theres no contribution there

Edited by Tennex, 07 October 2015 - 08:58 AM.


#126 Ghogiel

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Posted 07 October 2015 - 08:58 AM

View PostTennex, on 07 October 2015 - 08:55 AM, said:


Lol ignore him, hes just here for bragging rights

Yeah you need pro 3dee skillz being able to make an enclosed mesh, it's not like you can just press a couple buttons and several programs will basically do it for you. :rolleyes:

#127 Tennex

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Posted 07 October 2015 - 08:59 AM

View PostGhogiel, on 07 October 2015 - 08:58 AM, said:

Yeah you need pro 3dee skillz being able to make an enclosed mesh, it's not like you can just press a couple buttons and several programs will basically do it for you. :rolleyes:


I mean its fine, if it can't be done for all the mechs feasibly then theres no point. We might as well count on approximations at that point anyways

#128 RoboPatton

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Posted 07 October 2015 - 09:01 AM

View PostOberost, on 07 October 2015 - 08:35 AM, said:


Really?

I've played 10 games with it and I've changed al the STD engines to XL ones. I tried to torso twist hard only to find that the Ct eats all the damage.

Maybe I'm doing wrong but I'm only died of a ST loss once.



I've been running all of my crabs with XL, I can twist well enough, still in the end it's been the ST that has killed me each time. By that point most of my components are armor-less. I've actually gone out of my way to face shots in a fire fight to catch some in the CT. ISYN. Only 5-6 games with crabs, but that's my experience so far.

Trying to make a habit of raising my arms up when I flee, and twist, while facing nose down, in order to shield more with arms. Here's a screen shot of my technique in game-

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#129 Oberost

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Posted 07 October 2015 - 09:04 AM

View PostRoboPatton, on 07 October 2015 - 09:01 AM, said:

Trying to make a habit of raising my arms up when I flee, and twist, while facing nose down, in order to shield more with arms. Here's a screen shot of my technique in game-

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Pretty similar to mine. I also scream...

#130 Livewyr

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Posted 07 October 2015 - 09:07 AM

I'd just like to point out that nobody is even trying to compare the crab to the Hunchback, which was considered the decent size when comparing the Cent and Treb when they came out.

Crab isn't even in that league...

#131 kapusta11

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Posted 07 October 2015 - 09:08 AM

I'd rather scale down oversized mediums. Come on, how many Trebuchets, Kintaros and Griffins you see these days?

Edited by kapusta11, 07 October 2015 - 09:08 AM.


#132 zagibu

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Posted 07 October 2015 - 09:09 AM

I have found his post, and it's actually quite good, he remodeled a completely closed and hollow model using dynamesh in zbrush that fits pretty well in size and posted the volumes of Catapult and Stalker.

I compared hist values with those I got for the Catapult, and unfortunately, the mesh overlap seems to be considerable, so much that my data is useless.

http://mwomercs.com/...ost__p__2472104

Edited by zagibu, 07 October 2015 - 09:10 AM.


#133 zagibu

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Posted 07 October 2015 - 09:15 AM

View Postkapusta11, on 07 October 2015 - 09:08 AM, said:

I'd rather scale down oversized mediums. Come on, how many Trebuchets, Kintaros and Griffins you see these days?

That last part is more due to the laser meta than mech size. Missile hardpoints are just not worth much at the moment.

#134 Livewyr

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Posted 07 October 2015 - 09:33 AM

Just looked through the cockpit of a Kitfox... into the cockpit of the Crab.


If you think this mech is the right size.. you are out of your bloody mind. (OR, it's your favorite mech and you just want to make sure you can still be the OddJob to everyone else's Jaws)

#135 Jin Ma

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Posted 07 October 2015 - 09:35 AM

View PostLivewyr, on 07 October 2015 - 09:33 AM, said:

Just looked through the cockpit of a Kitfox... into the cockpit of the Crab.


If you think this mech is the right size.. you are out of your bloody mind. (OR, it's your favorite mech and you just want to make sure you can still be the OddJob to everyone else's Jaws)


Its def small. People are rationalizing

I would much rather get appropriate quirk buffs than, a mech that skews the already terrible mech scale in this game

#136 Gas Guzzler

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Posted 07 October 2015 - 09:38 AM

View PostLivewyr, on 07 October 2015 - 09:07 AM, said:

I'd just like to point out that nobody is even trying to compare the crab to the Hunchback, which was considered the decent size when comparing the Cent and Treb when they came out.

Crab isn't even in that league...


The Crab seems appropriately sized next to a Hunchback, its a little skinnier but has that long nose. Close enough for government work.

The whole "I looked at it through my cockpit" argument is pretty weak, perspective is a thing you know. Not too mention, Kit Fox is too big compared to other 30 tonners.

Seriously.. its not a big deal, stop complaining.

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Posted 07 October 2015 - 09:41 AM

It's only me or the ones wanting a big Crab want another big sub-par medium easy to instagib?

Does it seem smart to you, qquing whiners?

#138 Juodas Varnas

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Posted 07 October 2015 - 09:42 AM

View PostGas Guzzler, on 07 October 2015 - 09:38 AM, said:

Kit Fox is too big compared to other 30 tonners.


Also, keep in mind that the Kit Fox won the re-scale votes (and pushed the Centurion out of them, that filthy clan scum!) and will get down-scaled at a later date.
That won't stop clanners whining about them (they'll whine about the Adder then), but hey, it's something, right?

#139 Livewyr

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Posted 07 October 2015 - 09:42 AM

View PostGas Guzzler, on 07 October 2015 - 09:38 AM, said:


The Crab seems appropriately sized next to a Hunchback, its a little skinnier but has that long nose. Close enough for government work.

The whole "I looked at it through my cockpit" argument is pretty weak, perspective is a thing you know. Not too mention, Kit Fox is too big compared to other 30 tonners.

Seriously.. its not a big deal, stop complaining.


The torso is not long enough to justify it being the same height and width as a Jenner...

#140 Juodas Varnas

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Posted 07 October 2015 - 09:46 AM

View PostLivewyr, on 07 October 2015 - 09:42 AM, said:


The torso is not long enough to justify it being the same height and width as a Jenner...

Good thing it's not the same height and width as a Jenner, then. :rolleyes:





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