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[Baba Yogi]

Well there is the point of argument, i saw one right next to a raven and it was just as tall, and it was really smaller than my cicada. Actually when i was engaging another from far away i felt like fighting against a firestarter siluette. Seriously was it so hard to make it a bit bigger? I understand it has dragon level protrusion but that rarely matters unless you flank the guy. Discuss

[FupDup]

I'm just happy that it's not what Russ describes as "55 ton mech size" as nearly all other mediums are.

I'm not saying it's 100% ideal, but it sure beats the alternative of being oversized.

[ChapeL]

It matters to the crab pilot that his mech doesn't look like a 65 tonner as it would if it was as tall as a Hunchback for instance. I mean, look a the Nova for instance. The crab's torso protrudes forward and back as you already know, that adds some mass.

Edited by ChapeL, 06 October 2015 - 04:46 PM.

[Kiiyor]

It's hitboxed like a Stalker though.

Frontal silouhette isn't everything. Hit it from the sides and you can't not hit ST's.

I don't think it's too small at all. Mediums are in a tough place compared to lights, heavies and assaults. I think the size of the crab is quite nice.

[RoboPatton]

Seems right to me. Yes shorter, but longer too.

Overall, I'm loving my crab so far. ST's take a lot of hits, as you'd expect.

[Damocles]

small? sure.

But I'll be dining on these all night

[Saint Scarlett Johan]

No, that's closer to the size mediums should have been from the beginning.

[Drasari]

Lordhammer, on 06 October 2015 - 04:41 PM, said:

Well there is the point of argument, i saw one right next to a raven and it was just as tall, and it was really smaller than my cicada. Actually when i was engaging another from far away i felt like fighting against a firestarter siluette. Seriously was it so hard to make it a bit bigger? I understand it has dragon level protrusion but that rarely matters unless you flank the guy. Discuss

Have you seen that side profile though? It's small from the front and in height but man, that side profile is Huge!

[Matthew Ace]

Lord Scarlett Johan, on 06 October 2015 - 04:59 PM, said:

No, that's closer to the size mediums should have been from the beginning.

This guy gets it.

[MoonUnitBeta]

Been playing it all night.. it feels good.
It's no Arctic Cheetah, but it's no Grasshopper either. I don't feel like I'm sneaking away like a lag shield raven.

It's a really well done mech. There's defiantly mechs that could use more attention first.

Also - loving the running animation for it. Makes good use of the true chicken walker legs.

Edited by MoonUnitBeta, 06 October 2015 - 05:04 PM.

[Fang01]

Lordhammer, on 06 October 2015 - 04:41 PM, said:

Well there is the point of argument, i saw one right next to a raven and it was just as tall, and it was really smaller than my cicada. Actually when i was engaging another from far away i felt like fighting against a firestarter siluette. Seriously was it so hard to make it a bit bigger? I understand it has dragon level protrusion but that rarely matters unless you flank the guy. Discuss

So you're saying the Raven is too big?

[Quicksilver Aberration]

My Nova is super jelly.

Hopefully when they resize the Nova it gets sized more along the lines of this little guy.

[MechWarrior5152251]

Would balance lights and mediums by reducing their hit boxes....

[Tennex]

I agree. Its definitely a small mech

The 50 ton mech is quite a bit smaller than the 45 ton Shadow Cat



Cockpit view from shadow cat by Livewyr:



Volume measurements by zagibu

zagibu, on 07 October 2015 - 07:39 AM, said:

Here is some data I extracted from the game models by using the NeuroMorph Toolkit addon for Blender:



As you can see, the Crab has a smaller volume than all other medium mechs, however, it's still much more voluminous than a Raven.

Though it can be argued that mediums should enjoy the same scaling leeway that light mechs do. Strictly speaking though, the crab is small for its tonnage.

Edited by Tennex, 08 October 2015 - 04:59 PM.

[Sug]

I tried to shoot a Crab that was facehugging my Nova in it's leg and all I could hit was the top of it's Ct. Yeah they're pretty small.

[Goombah]

Crab isn't too small, ALL OTHER MEDIUMS are too big
Crab is in line with how all mediums going forwards should be
-All other mediums should be adjusted and put in line
Crab has an inferior number of hardpoints, low hardpoint locations, wide scattered hardpoint locations.
-Crab should have advantages to compensate for the poor hardpoint location / number
-Look at the HBK's amazing number, location of energy hardpoints, and convergence.

It's now gruesomely obvious to everyone how badly the cicada needs to be re-scaled
-Cicada is only 5 tons heavier than a jenner, yet it appears to have about four times as much volume, Is the cicada a hydrogen blimp or something? Mini legged Hindenburg?

The treb is also 50 tons, how did it not get voted to the top in the last re scale vote event?
If the Crab is 50, how on earth is the Catapult 65?

> Don't hate the crab, hate the game

[Zordicron]

Sooooo.... you want it to be bigger, so PGI was supposed to repeat the Nova? remember that... you know, where everyone came here for like 10 months straight and said LOLNOVA it's so giant?

C'mon man, they had to make it shorter to make up for that Cadillac long side profile, and allos it to have half a chance at dmg spread with it's mega-shnoz.

IMO, it could have gone three ways:

Like it is, small, but decent with solid dmg spread that makes XL vs STD an actual choice.
Like A Nova. Taller, wider, laughed at as WTFbig y u so wide?
Like a Catapult. Where the whole shnoz was CT, and you could run XL all day and strip armor off the ST cause no way you going down to a ST loss. See also: Jenner.

Personally, I am glad they learned from the past and made it how it is. Stout little 50 tonner.

[bad arcade kitty]

it's smaller than 40 ton cicada which make my little pest sad

[Khobai]

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Crab isn't too small, ALL OTHER MEDIUMS are too big

If the crab is the proper sized medium mech then it means most assaults are WAY too big.

since the crab and atlas are both made of the same components we can assume they have the same relative density. so weight and volume should be directly proportional.

An atlas should only be twice the size of a crab by volume. Not like four times the size lolol.

Edited by Khobai, 06 October 2015 - 07:47 PM.

[Bors Mistral]

Lordhammer, on 06 October 2015 - 04:41 PM, said:

Seriously was it so hard to make it a bit bigger?

The simple fact is that most of the other mediums are a bit oversized.
Some more than others..
Trebuchet...