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[BattleBunny]

Currently the CW match score is divided by the number of mechs used.

This rewards cowardly gameplay.

It has been brought up during the last event a few times, and I currenly see no progress in adjusting this. This seems like it should be an easy problem to fix?

[STEF_]

Soon^TM

[Black Ivan]

If PGI would care about CW, there actually would there would be better communictaion and faster fixes for it. Beside that CW in general cold be better. We could have a real Community Warfare instead of Clan Warfare.

[Kmieciu]

Just divide the match score by 4 already. How hard is it to figure it out?

[AdamBaines]

Black Ivan, on 08 October 2015 - 05:09 AM, said:

If PGI would care about CW, there actually would there would be better communictaion and faster fixes for it.

I think this is a false statement. I would argue that they really cant make any real fixes to CW until they figure out the new balancing scheme. Any changes would be a waste of resources that need to be used to fix the core of gameplay. That would then stabilize a part of CW and they could then turn and focus on making CW better. They care about CW, but understand they cant fix that until they fix other aspects of gameplay first.

That would be my guess.

Now with that said, Im seriously doubting a Steam release this year as CW would have to be playable before a release to Steam. And the new balance we will be testing on the PTS will take to long for that.

Again, my guess.

[Bob Jenkins]

It is not really an award. Match score itself awards nothing. The C-bill / loyalty reward for leftover mechs is inconsequential compared to kills/damage done. Anyone "hiding" to pad their match score would be an idiot who accomplishes nothing.

[BattleBunny]

Bob Jenkins, on 08 October 2015 - 12:07 PM, said:

It is not really an award. Match score itself awards nothing. The C-bill / loyalty reward for leftover mechs is inconsequential compared to kills/damage done. Anyone "hiding" to pad their match score would be an idiot who accomplishes nothing.

We'll see eachother again after the next weekend grind where people need to get 200+ matchscores in CW.

Edited by BattleBunny, 09 October 2015 - 01:34 AM.

[Michal R]

Bob Jenkins, on 08 October 2015 - 12:07 PM, said:

It is not really an award. Match score itself awards nothing. The C-bill / loyalty reward for leftover mechs is inconsequential compared to kills/damage done. Anyone "hiding" to pad their match score would be an idiot who accomplishes nothing.

That why SG-1 have that good score in CW event, They only camping

[TWIAFU]

Michal R, on 09 October 2015 - 01:58 AM, said:

That why SG-1 have that good score in CW event, They only camping

And they got kicked off Leaderboards over and over and over and over....

[Appogee]

BattleBunny, on 08 October 2015 - 04:52 AM, said:

...I currenty see no progress in adjusting this any aspect of Community Warfare.

Fixed that for you.

[Kin3ticX]

PGI is well aware that we know the matchscore in CW is acting bizarre.

for example, after you die your matchscore is severely underrated, see chart



What seems to really be going on here is unfinished work for some kind of economy where expending mechs hurts

[crustydog]

Kin3ticX, on 09 October 2015 - 04:37 PM, said:

What seems to really be going on here is unfinished work for some kind of economy where expending mechs hurts

Unfortunately, this match scoring approach rewards directly the selfish player - directly in opposition to the team coordination and self sacrifice that is necessary for CW to work. It is pretty much the polar opposite of what we need and desire.

The easiest fix is probably to remove the "divide by mechs" factor altogether. Is there a really good reason a CW match score cannot be much higher than a solo drop match score?

[Kin3ticX]

crustydog, on 09 October 2015 - 10:27 PM, said:

Unfortunately, this match scoring approach rewards directly the selfish player - directly in opposition to the team coordination and self sacrifice that is necessary for CW to work. It is pretty much the polar opposite of what we need and desire.

The easiest fix is probably to remove the "divide by mechs" factor altogether. Is there a really good reason a CW match score cannot be much higher than a solo drop match score?

Playing to use only 1 mech does not represent normal CW play. There is also no way to repair rearm in a match so sometimes ejecting for a fresh mech is the best course of action.

The worst part is back when we noticed the behavior after the PSR patch we couldnt get any explanation. Is it a bug? What the hell is it? Best I could officially get was Russ saying "yes" to "are you aware CW matchscore is divided by # of mechs used?".

Edited by Kin3ticX, 13 October 2015 - 10:24 PM.