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[FrontGuard]

If you are poor, you can be happy with a Toyota Celica GT...
If you are rich, you may want a Lamborghini.
Only a rabid communist would insist they be balanced and both have to buy a mustang.
Sure, they may both be okay with the Mustang until the rich guy decides to move to a democratic country and quit your country.
MWO is similar.
I'm not rich... but I'm not poor either.
I would say the game needs very little Mech balancing and for the most part is fine as it is.
Mech balance is a non-issue.
True, I refuse to purchase the Lamborghini (Timber Wolf) and I make it a point to go after them with hatred when I see one.
I can be happy with my Mustang ( Catapult )
What I would not be happy with is if they were all Mustangs.
No really... There are a great many issues with this game Far more important than Balance.
IMHO F Balance...
and to the "woh always me" QQ complainers...
Try and look on the bright side...
F'n Please!

[FupDup]

The car comparison is inaccurate because those vehicles aren't used in competitive death fighting. Their only purpose for 99% of people is to just get to work, grocery stores, etc. every day. Under such usage, there isn't much need to "optimize" the car because there's no pressure and no one to compete against.

...Well that, and the fact that this is a video game to be played for the purposes of entertainment, that also invalidates the analogy.

[Bilbo]

There is nothing more important in a pvp game than balance.

[SkyHammyr]

To be more precise:

F... Lore FOR Balance.

Edited by SkyHammr, 08 October 2015 - 07:43 AM.

[Shredhead]

Lost me after "only a rabid communist". Just another ***** who doesn't know what that is and draws comparisons between politics and games. Oh man.

[MeiSooHaityu]

I was going to write this huge write up about how balance is important in an online competitive game and how the OP is wrong, but it isn't worth my time and energy for a troll thread.

So.....

Instead, enjoy this picture of a cute kitten!


Awwwweee it's so cute! look how cute he is!

Edited by MeiSooHaityu, 08 October 2015 - 07:48 AM.

[Mcgral18]

SkyHammr, on 08 October 2015 - 07:43 AM, said:

To be more precise:

F... Lore FOR Balance.

For Balance, CoreRule ignore

[FupDup]

MeiSooHaityu, on 08 October 2015 - 07:48 AM, said:

I was going to write this huge write up about how balance is important in an online competitive game and how the OP is wrong, but it isn't worth my time and energy for a troll thread.

So.....

Instead, enjoy this picture of a cute kitten!


Awwwweee it's so cute! look how cute he is!

Kittens are imbalanced, but that's okay because they have to be OP!

[CDLord HHGD]

SkyHammr, on 08 October 2015 - 07:43 AM, said:

To be more precise:

F... Lore FOR Balance.

They F'd Lore so now we have imbalance.

[FrontGuard]

Okay... so you guys think that all mechs by class should be equial?
Really
that is so boring and if you got it you would hate it.

[Duke ramulots]

FrontGuard, on 08 October 2015 - 07:37 AM, said:

If you are poor, you can be happy with a Toyota Celica GT...
If you are rich, you may want a Lamborghini.
Only a rabid communist would insist they be balanced and both have to buy a mustang.
Sure, they may both be okay with the Mustang until the rich guy decides to move to a democratic country and quit your country.
MWO is similar.
I'm not rich... but I'm not poor either.
I would say the game needs very little Mech balancing and for the most part is fine as it is.
Mech balance is a non-issue.
True, I refuse to purchase the Lamborghini (Timber Wolf) and I make it a point to go after them with hatred when I see one.
I can be happy with my Mustang ( Catapult )
What I would not be happy with is if they were all Mustangs.
No really... There are a great many issues with this game Far more important than Balance.
IMHO F Balance...
and to the "woh always me" QQ complainers...
Try and look on the bright side...
F'n Please!

Really bad analogy, those cars are not in the same class in any form of racing.

[Mcgral18]

FrontGuard, on 08 October 2015 - 07:50 AM, said:

Okay... so you guys think that all mechs by class should be equial?
Really
that is so boring and if you got it you would hate it.

Spider VS Cheetah

Both 30 tonners, one is more than twice as effective.

[Kira Onime]

piss poor analogy is piss poor.

[FrontGuard]

Think about it guys...
What you are saying is you want every mech to be the same by class but just look different.
that would suck and you would Rage against it.

If you want to fight... at least pick something worth your time. balance is Not worth any time right now.
Much bigger fish.

[CDLord HHGD]

TwentyOne, on 08 October 2015 - 07:54 AM, said:

No. You are wrong. Video games require ballance, so **** your stupid ass ideas. This is a game, and like all GAMES, it must be ballanced.


Clans are balanced agains't clans and IS vs IS, but in lore clans are hyper OP, and even the creator himself agrees

Indeed. They need to treat them separately. Balance IS v IS (and balance doesn't mean identical) and Clan v Clan. Once you got that right, then you use what the designer used to balance IS v Clan which in MWO can be 12v10 (which they said was not possible) or by varying the available tonnages.

[Sader325]

[Cion]

Front,

You could have made your point using other logic, or explained it better. Sincerely though, that analogy does not compare to the issue at hand, hence all the replies. Better luck next time bro.

Cion

[Catra Lanis]

FrontGuard, on 08 October 2015 - 07:55 AM, said:

Think about it guys...
What you are saying is you want every mech to be the same by class but just look different.
that would suck and you would Rage against it.

If you want to fight... at least pick something worth your time. balance is Not worth any time right now.
Much bigger fish.

So whats the point of the lesser mechs then? Even if you jack up the C-Bill price to double the current and increase the gap between bad and good mechs everyone will have one of the top of the line mechs soon enough.

This is a game people will use what enables them to win. We would see only TBWs, SCRs, Cheetorz, Firestarters and a few more. The rest, the majority of the mechs would have been an absolute waste of dev. time.

[LastKhan]

F balance? as apposed to A Balance? why not C Balance?

[Duke ramulots]

Mcgral18, on 08 October 2015 - 07:51 AM, said:

Spider VS Cheetah

Both 30 tonners, one is more than twice as effective.

Nah, the spider isn't that much better. Maybe 10% better is all.