45 replies to this topic

[RoboPatton]

Mechwarrior Buddah, on 09 October 2015 - 07:17 PM, said:

milk the whales

[SkyHammyr]

It's probably a good thing the buisiness model is how it is.

It they had Lance level Co-Op PvE missions, I would have to look into 101 Ways to Cook Ramen Noodles for my family because I'd spend rediculous amounts of money on this game.

[Monkey Lover]

The Atlas Overlord, on 09 October 2015 - 04:23 PM, said:

In no way is this true. In fact it would make it MORE valuable b/c the 50% bonus would actually grant you a larger amount of cbills than currently.

Would it tempt the guys that have been playing since beta and have 200 mechs? Maybe, Maybe not.

Would it tempt the new plays? It's virtually guaranteed.

I know it would tempt me....but right now it's not worth 15 dollars a month for an extra 40-50k a match. That's just insulting.

So you're telling me if cbills were easy to get you would want another 50% of them? You already get them so easy why would you care?

I don't understand you logic at all. If cbills were any easier than they are now i wouldn't even active my time haha

[Pjwned]

PGI would also prefer that you buy MC to use on premium time, GXP conversion, and/or mechs; the latter of which you can buy with c-bills but PGI makes that difficult to make you want to buy with MC instead.

It's not a great business model for everybody (i.e me and at least some others) because it makes me not spend money.

[Sarlic]

Here's some explaination.

Edited by Sarlic, 10 October 2015 - 02:27 AM.

[3xnihilo]

At the very least Premium Time should give you a greater percentage of earnings than it does now. For someone like me who has very limited playing time it takes forever to save up cbills. I think I make about 5,000,000 in one month of playing without PT. That is 7,500,000 if I run PT all the time. That is nearly 2 months of play to get some of the pricier mechs with PT running. To master one then takes 6 months to get 3 variants. Now, I know I am not the target market and My cbill earnings are lower than average so that is a factor too. But it has definitely stopped me from spending money on stuff before, like hero sales when I am eyeing up a heavy or assault and realize I won't have it mastered until February or March of next year.

[Escef]

MysticLink, on 09 October 2015 - 03:51 PM, said:

123,313.38

That's not a bad amount, and only lower than mine by about 6600. I don't have an issue with how fast c-bills get accumulated, but I also play this game more than any sane human would. I know that if I bust out one of my best mechs I can clear a million in an hour easily enough (my better performing mechs I can clear over 1/4 million a match on a win). And mind you, I also am prone to using UAVs Arty, and/or cool shots.

[xe N on]

There is actually a business model? I would guess it's more of random dice throw mixed with incompetence.

Edited by xe N on, 10 October 2015 - 04:56 AM.

[MountainCopper]

Hmm. I don't claim that I really understand the cbill / MC model. But after being with the game for over 2 years now, it is my opinion that MC-purchases are ill-advised. Paying real money for colours (for all of your Mechs), patterns (for only some of your Mechs) and cockpit items, is something I quit very quickly and consider to be of very little worth.

The biggest issue I have with buying something with MC, are non-hero Mechs which a month later become available for cbills.
The game requires you to have at least 3 different variants of the same Mech to be able to level it fully. And the price they are asking for one single standard Mech ahead of time is absurd.
If I got 3 different Mechs for that MC price, it might actually be worth it for some players. The way it is now it completely isn't, and I doubt very much that many players make these purchases.
Also, as I mentioned some time ago, I consider the one month time period, during which you can play Mechs ahead of everybody else, to be way too short to warrant any purchase.

Mechbays are the only items which should be considered to be payed for with MC.

Edited by GoldenFleece, 10 October 2015 - 05:45 AM.

[MrMadguy]

Yeah. I don't understand it too. I was spending money on this game before CB/XP nerfs: I was buying mechbays, camos, heroes, etc. Now we have terrible MM and overnerfed rewards. And what? I don't play this game at all and have taken all my money away from it. How this business model can be better?

[Torgun]

Mechwarrior Buddah, on 09 October 2015 - 07:17 PM, said:

milk the whales

That's basically all you need to know, end of thread.

[Kraftwerkedup]

RoboPatton, on 09 October 2015 - 03:44 PM, said:

The "Business model" is sell nostalgia to the dad-whales, and clams to the meta-crowd.

This.

[MechWarrior5152251]

MOAR WHALES!

[Kraftwerkedup]

Sarlic, on 10 October 2015 - 02:23 AM, said:

Here's some explaination.

Its so sad how true that is, and yet were all still here, praying itll change, or somehow not be true.

[Escef]

Sarlic, on 10 October 2015 - 02:23 AM, said:

Here's some explaination.

If you think everything is so horrible, go away. I will never understand this insane mentality of hating a game and repeatedly coming onto the forum for said game and talking s***. It's insane. I don't even want to understand, because if I did it would mean I'm just as psychotic.

[Davers]

Escef, on 10 October 2015 - 06:37 PM, said:

If you think everything is so horrible, go away. I will never understand this insane mentality of hating a game and repeatedly coming onto the forum for said game and talking s***. It's insane. I don't even want to understand, because if I did it would mean I'm just as psychotic.

"This game totally sucks, but I can't stop making graphics and gifs and talking on the forums about it every day!"

[Deathlike]

Here's the 5 step business model...

1) "Persuade" people to buy into packs and/or premium time due to the Paulconomy™... because the new players aren't just farming C-bills rapidly... but they are great targets for farming.

2) Learn "whale mating calls"... and bite the hands that feed them occasionally (who doesn't like being bad once in a while)... or not if you're their right hand media outlet.

3) Claim to have "aggressive balance changes"... and do it horribly, or not do it all.

4) ?????

5) Profit!


You can do this all while the circle of life provides subliminal messages reminds you of your ultimate purpose.

[Ex Atlas Overlord]

Monkey Lover, on 09 October 2015 - 08:31 PM, said:

So you're telling me if cbills were easy to get you would want another 50% of them? You already get them so easy why would you care?

That's exactly what I'm telling you.

General amount needed to buy and completely upgrade, outfit, and modulize assault mech? 35+ million....

Average cbill for a good match with good team mates:
No premium: 120k
Premium: 180k
Time for SINGLE assault: 291 F*CKING GAMES without premium, and 194 WITH
To master ONE assault chassis: 600 GAMES EVEN WITH PREMIUM!

Right now I don't buy premium purely out of spite.

[Johnny Z]

Sarlic, on 10 October 2015 - 02:23 AM, said:

Here's some explaination.

Hilarious. The whale with teats is great and what if PSR is all RNG? HAHA hilarious.

Edited by Johnny Z, 10 October 2015 - 07:49 PM.

[Sarlic]

Escef, on 10 October 2015 - 06:37 PM, said:

If you think everything is so horrible, go away. I will never understand this insane mentality of hating a game and repeatedly coming onto the forum for said game and talking s***. It's insane. I don't even want to understand, because if I did it would mean I'm just as psychotic.

If you think everything is fine you are being delusional.
Why people still keep spending money on the game (then i mean big sum packages) is beyond me. All the signs of more wasted potential is getting stronger. This year has been terrible. Biggest development time spend sure i believe that right away but the projects so far are either terrible quality and dumbed down and or half finished. Half finished is a green light and move on to the next stage. Literally throwing money away.

Like i said in a other thread the base game is incredible good, the rest is just wasted money and wasted potential.