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#1 TheArisen

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Posted 16 October 2015 - 09:01 AM

I'm pretty sure I've seen this touched on to one degree or another. This version was introduced to me by Elizander.

The idea is that Pgi offer weapons that give bonuses to XP/Loyalty/Cbills, etc. None of these weapons should have better or different stats than what we have now.

Here's an example, we could buy:
- Magna Hellstar PPC +3% cbills
- Donal PPC +3% loyalty
- Kingfisher PPC +3% XP

*Numbers are placeholders
*PPCs are an example, all weapons would have special variants

These weapons could even be offered in varying qualities. The higher quality weapons could have 2-3 or more of these bonuses. Weapon quality would be color designated.

Another thing is ppl would see your special weapons when they target you. They wouldn't appear as regular weapons.

The price of these weapons would depend on the quality & how much of a cbill/XP/loyalty buff they give. I'm thinking they'd go in the 300-1000 MC range.

Here's a thread & poll with a copy of Elizander's explanation of the idea. http://mwomercs.com/...pecial-weapons/

Extra idea, special weapons get different sounds then normal weapons.

Do you like this idea? How much of a bonus should weapons give? How much should they go for?

Remember, there is no P2Win here. All weapons do the same DMG, etc, as normal weapons.

Edited by TheArisen, 16 October 2015 - 10:34 AM.


#2 FupDup

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Posted 16 October 2015 - 09:03 AM

I was about to say that it would be a clusterfudge to balance, but then I saw that these special weapons only provided convenience instead of altering combat performance. As my only complaint has been preemptively shot-down by flak cannons, I have no choice but to support this endeavor.

It also helps to jumpstart the Paulconomy, which is something that needs to happen in and of itself.

Edited by FupDup, 16 October 2015 - 09:09 AM.


#3 Khobai

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Posted 16 October 2015 - 09:09 AM

if you want cbill/xp bonuses you buy premium, thats what premium is for

#4 FupDup

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Posted 16 October 2015 - 09:10 AM

View PostKhobai, on 16 October 2015 - 09:09 AM, said:

if you want cbill/xp bonuses you buy premium, thats what premium is for

These items would also cost Em Cee, and stack with the arguably paltry bonuses of premi time.

#5 Khobai

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Posted 16 October 2015 - 09:13 AM

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These items would also cost Em Cee, and stack with the arguably paltry bonuses of premi time.


it would be simpler and more preferable just to raise the bonus that premium time gives from 50% to 75%.

+50% feels pretty low for premium time since they nerfed the base cbill earnings.

Edited by Khobai, 16 October 2015 - 09:13 AM.


#6 FupDup

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Posted 16 October 2015 - 09:13 AM

View PostKhobai, on 16 October 2015 - 09:13 AM, said:

it would be simpler and more preferable just to raise the bonus that premium time gives from 50% to 75%.

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#7 Khobai

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Posted 16 October 2015 - 09:15 AM

because I dont wanna see people running stupid builds spamming +cbill ppcs.

#8 FupDup

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Posted 16 October 2015 - 09:17 AM

View PostKhobai, on 16 October 2015 - 09:15 AM, said:

because I dont wanna see people running stupid builds spamming +cbill ppcs.

Every weapon in the game would probably have money boosting guns, so people wouldn't have to all use one exact weapon type to benefit.

#9 TheArisen

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Posted 16 October 2015 - 09:35 AM

View PostFupDup, on 16 October 2015 - 09:17 AM, said:

Every weapon in the game would probably have money boosting guns, so people wouldn't have to all use one exact weapon type to benefit.


This is correct. All weapons would have cbill boosting variants. Ppcs were just an example because Elizander used them and I also remembered there lore types.

Which is an extra benefit. Increased immersion due to lore weapon names.

#10 Damocles

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Posted 16 October 2015 - 10:08 AM

A suggestion thats been around since 2011 :D forum rewind-time!

#11 Oberost

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Posted 16 October 2015 - 10:37 AM

View PostDamocles, on 16 October 2015 - 10:08 AM, said:

A suggestion thats been around since 2011 :D forum rewind-time!


Groundhog Day...

#12 C E Dwyer

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Posted 16 October 2015 - 10:42 AM

It will be seen as a pay wall by many here, and P2W, just like Hero mechs are, even though neither are or would be

#13 FupDup

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Posted 16 October 2015 - 10:44 AM

View PostCathy, on 16 October 2015 - 10:42 AM, said:

It will be seen as a pay wall by many here, and P2W, just like Hero mechs are, even though neither are or would be

Hero mechs can sometimes be argued because they alter combat performance, like the Dragon Slayer, Misery, and Ember once being vastly superior in combat to their C-Bill counterparts. (Of course, several hero mechs are also inferior to their C-Bill counterparts).

These booster weapons proposed here do not alter combat performance. They act identical to a normal weapons in battle, all they do is add more spacebucks income. They're more analogous to premium time in that regard, or the special (L) and (I) variants that act the same as their C-Bill counterparts.

Edited by FupDup, 16 October 2015 - 10:45 AM.


#14 StormSeraph

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Posted 16 October 2015 - 11:46 AM

A new kind of weapon balance. Nobody uses LBX?

+5000 CBills for every 10 damage you do with LBX.

#15 Narcissistic Martyr

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Posted 16 October 2015 - 12:04 PM

As long as they come in shiny colors and look bad ass I'm in.

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Posted 16 October 2015 - 12:09 PM

View PostFupDup, on 16 October 2015 - 09:13 AM, said:

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View PostKhobai, on 16 October 2015 - 09:13 AM, said:


it would be simpler and more preferable just to raise the bonus that premium time gives from 50% to 75%.

+50% feels pretty low for premium time since they nerfed the base cbill earnings.

YES PLEASE

#17 Elizander

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Posted 16 October 2015 - 01:51 PM

View PostNarcissistic Martyr, on 16 October 2015 - 12:04 PM, said:

As long as they come in shiny colors and look bad ass I'm in.


On the mechlab and on the enemy view they should.

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PGI can take it a step further and have these lore named weapons be of a slightly different color when they shoot, have a different sound, or some other cosmetic change (maybe different colored lenses for lasers, different glow color for PPC, slightly different model, etc).

#18 Revis Volek

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Posted 16 October 2015 - 01:56 PM

View PostOberost, on 16 October 2015 - 10:37 AM, said:


Groundhog Day...



This ^^^

Every damn day anymore....


But on a lighter note, i would love to see salamanders and stuff as well (cool better in water) but like Fup said, that creates hell for balance.

Edited by DarthRevis, 16 October 2015 - 01:57 PM.


#19 Mothykins

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Posted 16 October 2015 - 02:18 PM

Gimme a PPC that screams like the one in MW4, and give it slightly different visual, and I'm all over that.

Hell yes I'd buy cosmetic weapons, Cbill boost or no. As long as they're not expensive. $1-2 for a different sound/skin on a weapon? Sure.

#20 TheArisen

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Posted 16 October 2015 - 02:20 PM

How much should these go for? I'm thinking in the 300 to 1000 MC range depending on how much of a bonus you get.

Edited by TheArisen, 16 October 2015 - 02:21 PM.






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