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#1 JigglyMoobs

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Posted 16 October 2015 - 05:37 PM

I'm sure this has happened to all of us on the solo queue.

Question is: why? Why not message? Why not use voice comms? Why not even a single fart to let team know you are in trouble?

#2 Agent 0 Fortune

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Posted 16 October 2015 - 05:43 PM

99% of my matches end without a word from me, are you looking for affirmation of your poor performance?

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Posted 16 October 2015 - 05:44 PM

No mic. Too busy running to type. Farts don't do much to attract help *shrug

#4 JigglyMoobs

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Posted 16 October 2015 - 05:46 PM

View PostAgent 0 Fortune, on 16 October 2015 - 05:43 PM, said:

99% of my matches end without a word from me, are you looking for affirmation of your poor performance?


Why would you not tell the team you are in trouble?

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Posted 16 October 2015 - 05:49 PM

View PostJigglyMoobs, on 16 October 2015 - 05:46 PM, said:


Why would you not tell the team you are in trouble?


By the time you realise you're in trouble, it's usually too late anyways. Most people don't just drop everything they're doing and type in chat "HELP ASSAULTS F4" ... they try to put up a fight in the 10 seconds before inevitably going down.

#6 El Bandito

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Posted 16 October 2015 - 05:51 PM

View PostJigglyMoobs, on 16 October 2015 - 05:37 PM, said:

I'm sure this has happened to all of us on the solo queue.

Question is: why? Why not message? Why not use voice comms? Why not even a single fart to let team know you are in trouble?


Low tier players tend to be mike/chat shy. What is your tier rating?

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Posted 16 October 2015 - 05:53 PM

View PostJigglyMoobs, on 16 October 2015 - 05:37 PM, said:

I'm sure this has happened to all of us on the solo queue.

Question is: why? Why not message? Why not use voice comms? Why not even a single fart to let team know you are in trouble?


B/c they'd rather drag down the other 11 guys on their team than step out of their comfort zone

Source: Having been there

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Posted 16 October 2015 - 05:55 PM

View PostJigglyMoobs, on 16 October 2015 - 05:46 PM, said:


Why would you not tell the team you are in trouble?


because pll dont give a ****

#9 JigglyMoobs

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Posted 16 October 2015 - 05:59 PM

View PostShinobiHunter, on 16 October 2015 - 05:44 PM, said:

No mic. Too busy running to type. Farts don't do much to attract help *shrug


Should be able to at least get under cover and write something like Help D4, etc.

It's not that hard.

In games like Quake, one used to be able to bind a simple message with a script that shows your current position. I wish that was available in this game.

View PostTarogato, on 16 October 2015 - 05:49 PM, said:

By the time you realise you're in trouble, it's usually too late anyways. Most people don't just drop everything they're doing and type in chat "HELP ASSAULTS F4" ... they try to put up a fight in the 10 seconds before inevitably going down.


But that message is more important to the team as a whole, unless you are really firepower heavy like an assault or something.

Besides, can't you write something after you die?

View PostEl Bandito, on 16 October 2015 - 05:51 PM, said:

Low tier players tend to be mike/chat shy. What is your tier rating?


2, I stopped playing for a year until a couple of weeks ago.

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Posted 16 October 2015 - 05:59 PM

View PostJigglyMoobs, on 16 October 2015 - 05:56 PM, said:


Should be able to at least get under cover and write something like Help D4, etc.

It's not that hard.

In games like Quake, one used to be able to bind a simple message with a script that shows your current position. I wish that was available in this game.

If I can get into to cover, I'm not in trouble. Then again, I don't wander off alone in slow mechs, so maybe it would be more useful then.

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Posted 16 October 2015 - 06:01 PM

View PostTarogato, on 16 October 2015 - 05:49 PM, said:

By the time you realise you're in trouble, it's usually too late anyways. Most people don't just drop everything they're doing and type in chat "HELP ASSAULTS F4" ... they try to put up a fight in the 10 seconds before inevitably going down.


Exactly.

I had been asking for a commo rose since forever... since typing is risky when you're engaging or about to engage. If a commo rose existed, coordination would improve immensely (especially when you'd have to commit to VOIP to communicate with unknown strangers).

Of course... I repeat this indefinitely, but... it's clearly not important enough.

The thing is it is infact community friendly (if programmed correctly), as you should be able to put in language friendly equivalent messages for the basic commands you want to execute (it's not like we're planning something complicated here).

But... it's Lostech.

#12 Kristian Radoulov

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Posted 16 October 2015 - 06:02 PM

Cowards make this game unplayable.

#13 El Bandito

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Posted 16 October 2015 - 06:02 PM

View PostJigglyMoobs, on 16 October 2015 - 05:59 PM, said:

2, I stopped playing for a year until a couple of weeks ago.


You stopped playing for an entire year until a couple of weeks ago and is T2? How? PGI should have ranked you from the games you played since January 1st to September 22nd. By all means you should have started on T4-5.

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Posted 16 October 2015 - 06:03 PM

View PostEl Bandito, on 16 October 2015 - 05:51 PM, said:

Low tier players tend to be mike/chat shy. What is your tier rating?


I would love to see this backed up by fact. care to cite?

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Posted 16 October 2015 - 06:08 PM

its called situational awareness

youre supposed to pay attention to if your team is dying or not

not expect them to hold your hand and tell you everything you can figure out on your own

#16 El Bandito

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Posted 16 October 2015 - 06:09 PM

View PostAgent 0 Fortune, on 16 October 2015 - 06:03 PM, said:

I would love to see this backed up by fact. care to cite?


I sure can confirm. On my alt T4 account, almost no one cares to use mike/chat for anything useful. On my T1 main, the mike/chat is always busy during engagement. People call out UAVs, enemy flank attacks, sniper positions, weakened enemies, the whole 9 yards. Naturally it includes call for help.

Edited by El Bandito, 16 October 2015 - 06:10 PM.


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Posted 16 October 2015 - 06:12 PM

If I die you get a message: "über metamech has killed 3xninilo"

Also, I usually play at 6 am before work so my whole house is asleep, so VOIP is not an option for me.

Edited by 3xnihilo, 16 October 2015 - 06:14 PM.


#18 JigglyMoobs

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Posted 16 October 2015 - 06:20 PM

View PostEl Bandito, on 16 October 2015 - 06:02 PM, said:


You stopped playing for an entire year until a couple of weeks ago and is T2? How? PGI should have ranked you from the games you played since January 1st to September 22nd. By all means you should have started on T4-5.


You start in T3, at least I did. In T3 I either win or do enough damage not to go negative in PSR most games.

When I stopped playing last year, I was consistently in the highest "tier" of elo rankings.

View PostKhobai, on 16 October 2015 - 06:08 PM, said:

its called situational awareness

youre supposed to pay attention to if your team is dying or not

not expect them to hold your hand and tell you everything you can figure out on your own


Part of team work involves making situational awareness easier for your teammates. Even when we didn't have voice comms I'd consistently try to message and report. Definitely helped win games.

#19 Agent 0 Fortune

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Posted 16 October 2015 - 06:21 PM

View PostEl Bandito, on 16 October 2015 - 06:09 PM, said:


I sure can confirm. On my alt T4 account, almost no one cares to use mike/chat for anything useful. On my T1 main, the mike/chat is always busy during engagement. People call out UAVs, enemy flank attacks, sniper positions, weakened enemies, the whole 9 yards. Naturally it includes call for help.


That is some ******* science folks, and explains why I am able to gun down T1 solo while only a tier 3 pilot.

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Posted 16 October 2015 - 06:25 PM

View PostAgent 0 Fortune, on 16 October 2015 - 06:21 PM, said:


That is some ******* science folks, and explains why I am able to gun down T1 solo while only a tier 3 pilot.

Tiers aside, players that frequent group que are more likely to use comms/chat than ones the PUG only. At least in my, and apparently Bandito's, experience. Also, why the personal attack? That's pretty immature.





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