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[El Bandito]

Titannium, on 19 October 2015 - 12:09 AM, said:

Ok, ill just change my mind with T4 is enough for me. Going up, just show you, how bad im (former T5)

Go ahead but remember, just because one had started bad, he doesn't have to stay bad. Even old dog learns new tricks.

Edited by El Bandito, 19 October 2015 - 12:58 AM.

[Petard]

izzycat218, on 18 October 2015 - 06:58 PM, said:

Is this what most tier 1 players are like?

1300 damage, 6 assists. Learn to aim mate. If you cant kill a mech while doing 250+ damage to it, I suggest you stop blaming your tier and team, and have a good hard look at yourself. I understand that you won't like me saying this, but seriously, it's the truth.

Good Hunting

[Joseph Mallan]

izzycat218, on 18 October 2015 - 11:18 AM, said:

trying to climb out of tier 5. Worst part is when i take lead of my group we win 90% of the games.

How is that the Worst part? Now if you LOST 90% I'd see your point.

[El Bandito]

izzycat218, on 18 October 2015 - 06:58 PM, said:

Is this what most tier 1 players are like?

I had this kind of matches too. I just don't make too big of a deal out of it.

[TWIAFU]

Mawai, on 18 October 2015 - 06:14 PM, said:

Yesterday, I played seven matches. I won five and lost two. In the five I won my PSR went up. In the two I lost, I scored well and got equal signs for PSR change. Net effect on the PSR bar was something like two pixels.

Based on that it will take me something like 20 to 40 (or more) decent games to get out of Tier 4.

I know the feeling. Trying to play well and monitor the PSR bar for movement is a ***** and can be disheartening. What I did to beat that is turn off the front end PSR display on Home screen. I am not reminded of PSR after each game and every time I play. Psychologically, it is like a weight has been lifted.

Remove the reminder and just play! Soon PSR will slip from your mind and you can concentrate on your drops and before you know it, you are out of 4 and well into 3 - moving toward 2.

Without that PSR 'cloud' over your head you will do better as a pilot.

Try it for awhile and I hope you will be surprised.

[Bishop Steiner]

PurpleNinja, on 18 October 2015 - 02:10 PM, said:

Do new accounts go to Tier 5?

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[izzycat218]

I enjoy the perceptions you higher teir think what T5 is like. There are some really bad players and there non meta players as well. Most of them know the basics of the game when it comes to positioning and spreading damage. The lack of cohesive teamwork is the biggest problem down here. As far as my Op is concerned I did aim at my opponents uacs would jam and lasers came from my side and got the kill its whatever at this point that game ended 12 to 8.

Seeing the mentally of people with a lower number next to there name than someone else. Is disappointing to say the least. Now that my VoIP is working again I'll start giving advice hopefully they'll listen. I've come to realize with the last two days of group dropping that I'm probably lower tiered than I should be. The little group I'm in hold our own against the comp teams we come across. Though the top Escalon of teams wipe the floor with us.

It's sad that the members of the community that are "better" than others don't offer advice and only look down on them. Got the same vibe Magic the gathering. Which is why I left it for warhammer 40,000k. To anyone in the lower tiers that wants to play with a group send me a message. I'll play with anybody regardless of skill.

[0bsidion]

izzycat218, on 19 October 2015 - 09:04 AM, said:

I enjoy the perceptions you higher teir think what T5 is like. There are some really bad players and there non meta players as well. Most of them know the basics of the game when it comes to positioning and spreading damage. The lack of cohesive teamwork is the biggest problem down here. As far as my Op is concerned I did aim at my opponents uacs would jam and lasers came from my side and got the kill its whatever at this point that game ended 12 to 8.

That is actually a very balanced game that says the teams were reasonably well matched. All it probably would have taken is maybe one better player on your team or a worse one on theirs.

Other than that I agree that not everyone landed in the tier they deserve. ELO was pretty much a train wreck, and some players' scores were more a reflection of how bad a system it was as opposed to what they were capable of.

As far as some peoples attitudes, keep in mind forum goers are a pretty small population sample, and there are going to be those with superiority complexes no matter where you go. You shouldn't let them eclipse everyone else, since it's actually a pretty small minority that are like that.

Edited by 0bsidion, 19 October 2015 - 09:34 AM.

[Druarc]

I'd guess most new players will drop to T5, as it takes a bit to get use to the game and generally you won't have the mechs to compete, even at T4.

I think the only mech I've score 1k+ damage and no kills is my streak crow.

Also think we've all had those matches where we top score but end up in the losing team .

[pwnface]

Petard, on 19 October 2015 - 01:56 AM, said:

1300 damage, 6 assists. Learn to aim mate. If you cant kill a mech while doing 250+ damage to it, I suggest you stop blaming your tier and team, and have a good hard look at yourself. I understand that you won't like me saying this, but seriously, it's the truth.

Good Hunting

Getting killing blows sometimes is just luck. If you put 200-250 damage into an enemy mech and a teammate grazes your target to get the kill it doesn't mean your damage was ineffective.

Sometimes the enemy will torso twist to spread damage, generally with direct fire you should wait until they twist back to have more effective damage. OP has already stated he was running a 4xUAC5 crab, in which case why bother waiting for them to twist back when you can keep dumping damage all over the enemy. You can put down an enemy assault with less than 250 damage in ideal situations but don't pretend ANYONE is doing that 100% of the time. I find it funny that people are bold enough to talk **** about someone else's gameplay when they are pulling 1300 damage in any match.

@OP Don't feel bad, it happens to all of us sometimes.

[ColourfulConfetti]

There were legends of a place were tryhards were just myths and fairy tales. A place where no meta existed, where catapults and commandos roamed free and unmolested. I tried searching for this place myself, but was told my mind was to corrupted by the meta to even find it.

[Almond Brown]

El Bandito, on 18 October 2015 - 10:55 AM, said:

T5, remember?

I thought the Alt experiment showed even a NEW account starts at T4 and 1-2 WINS gets that account to T3?

So a T5 (with 800 damage done all day) must be ALL brutal losses every Match as those numbers should provide a min = and or Green arrows (if even slight)?

[Thor Sten]

izzycat218, on 18 October 2015 - 11:18 AM, said:

trying to climb out of tier 5. Worst part is when i take lead of my group we win 90% of the games.

At least they take a lead. I'm currently at Tier 3 (started with Tier 5) and it's like no one ever heard of teamplay. With Tier 4 & 5 it was easier to rally the troops.

Edited by Thor Sten, 20 October 2015 - 10:18 AM.

[izzycat218]

Thor Sten, on 20 October 2015 - 10:15 AM, said:

At least they take a lead. I'm currently at Tier 3 (started with Tier 5) and it's like no one ever heard of teamplay.

This is the unit I'm with. No one else does it so I stepped up and do it. We seem to do well.

[El Bandito]

Almond Brown, on 20 October 2015 - 08:58 AM, said:

I thought the Alt experiment showed even a NEW account starts at T4 and 1-2 WINS gets that account to T3?

So a T5 (with 800 damage done all day) must be ALL brutal losses every Match as those numbers should provide a min = and or Green arrows (if even slight)?

Yes, a T5 will mean the person had a long string of losses after the PSR implementation. Might be due to misfortune, but most likely due to lack of skill. If he was as good as he say, he would have gotten 251 points in a loss to not fall down the rating on many of those losses.

Edited by El Bandito, 21 October 2015 - 12:07 AM.

[Petard]

pwnface, on 19 October 2015 - 02:17 PM, said:

Getting killing blows sometimes is just luck. If you put 200-250 damage into an enemy mech and a teammate grazes your target to get the kill it doesn't mean your damage was ineffective.

Sometimes the enemy will torso twist to spread damage, generally with direct fire you should wait until they twist back to have more effective damage. OP has already stated he was running a 4xUAC5 crab, in which case why bother waiting for them to twist back when you can keep dumping damage all over the enemy. You can put down an enemy assault with less than 250 damage in ideal situations but don't pretend ANYONE is doing that 100% of the time. I find it funny that people are bold enough to talk **** about someone else's gameplay when they are pulling 1300 damage in any match.

@OP Don't feel bad, it happens to all of us sometimes.

Not sure what you screenshot is meant to convey, apart from the fact that you aim better than the OP. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. 1300 damage is an excellent score, and at no stage did i say otherwise. I too have done large amounts of damage on a losing team, once got 1100 and all 6 kills that my team managed. However your perception that I am talking bovine fecal matter about the OP's skills is just plain wrong. I was attempting to point out to him that if he had applied his damage better to his enemies, that some of them would have fallen to his guns. Sometimes it IS better to hold your shot and wait for the guy or guys to twist back and face you, Dead enemies don't shoot back.

Good Hunting

[izzycat218]

Petard, on 21 October 2015 - 02:47 AM, said:

Not sure what you screenshot is meant to convey, apart from the fact that you aim better than the OP. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. 1300 damage is an excellent score, and at no stage did i say otherwise. I too have done large amounts of damage on a losing team, once got 1100 and all 6 kills that my team managed. However your perception that I am talking bovine fecal matter about the OP's skills is just plain wrong. I was attempting to point out to him that if he had applied his damage better to his enemies, that some of them would have fallen to his guns. Sometimes it IS better to hold your shot and wait for the guy or guys to twist back and face you, Dead enemies don't shoot back.

Good Hunting

You're also correct I could have held salvos on the atlas I fired upon, but the dire wolf and mauler not so much. Since the age of 12 mans getting killing blow has become rare for me achieve due to being the one that usually strips and then one of my buddy's gets the kill shot while my weapons cycle. I do need to work on my aim and shot timing. Since I caved and bought my fist clan mech being a Timberwolf. I've begun choosing to only hit CT every time I fire. This has gotten me a quarter way through teir 4. On a side note teir 5&4 are the same gameplay wise out of teammates and enemies. Lack of teamwork.

[izzycat218]

El Bandito, on 21 October 2015 - 12:02 AM, said:

Yes, a T5 will mean the person had a long string of losses after the PSR implementation. Might be due to misfortune, but most likely due to lack of skill. If he was as good as he say, he would have gotten 251 points in a loss to not fall down the rating on many of those losses.

You're right. I have the skill to compete with most players but I lack the time to hone that skill again. I've always been bad at consistently putting up great scores due to impatience and over aggression. I enjoy being the tip of the spear which leads to early deaths and low match scores. If I sit back with my team and play like everyone else I can put up some amazing numbers. Since this tread began I've climbed a quarter of the way through teir 4 after 8hours of play. I'll probably make it to teir 3 playing meta then get bored and start to do poorly again as I finish bad mechs. I don't feel the need to reach teir 1 really but that could change down the road.

[z MadButcher z]

Continue to output that much damage and you won't be tier 5 long. Just so you know it really doesn't get any better up at the top so don't get your hopes up.

[izzycat218]

z MadButcher z, on 21 October 2015 - 07:33 AM, said:

Continue to output that much damage and you won't be tier 5 long. Just so you know it really doesn't get any better up at the top so don't get your hopes up.

Sad all I really want is consistent teamwork. Tired of yolo carry mode by some teammates and myself. With the new tonnage weights playing in small groups will probably become popular again. Now if unit members actually wish to play is the new issue.