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[SWAccelerated Gaming]

Assault game mode = pilot mech across map, stand on base and win/lose.

I un-checked this game mode until fixed, who else did the same?

[Random Carnage]

Yup. Assault mode has been unchecked for a while now. Waste of time.

Edited by Random Carnage, 23 October 2015 - 01:01 AM.

[Duke ramulots]

Oh yeah, I totally unchecked the only decent game mode.

[Random Carnage]

Duke ramulots, on 23 October 2015 - 01:41 AM, said:

Oh yeah, I totally unchecked the only decent game mode.

Drag race to red base. Never even see a red mech. Camp for 10 seconds with 2 other fast lances. Game over. Assault mechs get nada.

Waste...

...of...

...time.

[Joseph Mallan]

SWAccelerated Gaming, on 23 October 2015 - 12:59 AM, said:

Assault game mode = pilot mech across map, stand on base and win/lose.

I un-checked this game mode until fixed, who else did the same?

Nope more options, less wait time. Plus, most players just play assault as death match anyway so Your argument is kinda invalid.

[Random Carnage]

Joseph Mallan, on 23 October 2015 - 01:47 AM, said:

Nope more options, less wait time. Plus, most players just play assault as death match anyway so Your argument is kinda invalid.

Fast lance will not usually play Assault as death match. They'll be heading for red base as fast as they can get there. Some fire may get traded for a couple of minutes, but how often do you see an Assault game end in anything other than a cap to one side or the other?

[Joseph Mallan]

Random Carnage, on 23 October 2015 - 01:50 AM, said:

Fast lance will not usually play Assault as death match. They'll be heading for red base as fast as they can get there. Some fire may get traded for a couple of minutes, but how often do you see an Assault game end in anything other than a cap to one side or the other?

And since they are a fast unit they are playing the match as intended. The main objective is to "capture the base" So if someone can steal if from the defenders power to them. Just make it worth as much as beating the stuffing out of the opposition!

[Random Carnage]

Joseph Mallan, on 23 October 2015 - 01:54 AM, said:

And since they are a fast unit they are playing the match as intended. The main objective is to "capture the base" So if someone can steal if from the defenders power to them. Just make it worth as much as beating the stuffing out of the opposition!

I am a Dire pilot. Where in the Assault mode game do you see me contributing? The best I can hope for is to base sit and defend hoping to take out 1 of the first red lights to arrive before I get light rolled. Any moving role will usually result in being halfway to nowhere by the time one base or other gets taken.

Edited by Random Carnage, 23 October 2015 - 01:59 AM.

[Joseph Mallan]

Random Carnage, on 23 October 2015 - 01:58 AM, said:

I am a Dire pilot. Where in the Assault mode game do you see me contributing? The best I can hope for is to base sit and defend hoping to take out 1 of the first red lights to arrive before I get light rolled. Any moving role will usually result in being halfway to nowhere by the time one base or other gets taken.

I'm an 300 rate engine Atlas Pilot, I have been supporting the fast's right to cap since Closed Beta. Dire Wolf Pilot... You act like you were the only ones to be fast capped.

What we used to do (as a team/ not PUG) was set up a defense near our base and have the scouts find the enemy. We crushed the enemy scouts and then went where our scouts said the rest of em were.

We cant have that in PUG, but since so few matches end in a cap, I don't see the problem with ninja wins.

[Paigan]

SWAccelerated Gaming, on 23 October 2015 - 12:59 AM, said:

Assault game mode = pilot mech across map, stand on base and win/lose.

I un-checked this game mode until fixed, who else did the same?

Now I know why so many people complain that searching for matches takes forever.
I can never relate to that as for me searching takes only about 10 to 60 seconds.

Also, I hardly ever see assault to play out like you describe.
Why:
Because when the enemy rush to the base, neglecting their defense, they are easy prey. Ever since a few weeks after turrets disappeared, I have NEVER seen an assault game be one by an all-in rush.


I guess you encountered 1-2 of those rushes with a team not able to handle it and now you blame the game mode.

[Thaar]

Paigan, on 23 October 2015 - 02:08 AM, said:

Now I know why so many people complain that searching for matches takes forever.
I can never relate to that as for me searching takes only about 10 to 60 seconds.

Also, I hardly ever see assault to play out like you describe.
Why:
Because when the enemy rush to the base, neglecting their defense, they are easy prey. Ever since a few weeks after turrets disappeared, I have NEVER seen an assault game be one by an all-in rush.


I guess you encountered 1-2 of those rushes with a team not able to handle it and now you blame the game mode.

So this is why people complains about waiting times, I have assault and skirmish modes selected for Europe and NA and my wait times are 90% of the time under 30 sec. And rarely I see cap rushes.

Edited by Phylum, 23 October 2015 - 02:39 AM.

[sycocys]

Check assault.

Set up your entire team to ambush their lights and fast heavies as they get on your base.

Vastly outnumber their assaults.

Ez-pz.

[adamts01]

I can only play on the Oceanic server. Many nights wait times are 30 minutes or more with only skirmish selected. Not many play in groups because the wait times here get up to an hour. So I'm stuck with pugs. I have to bring a heavy to carry, more often than not lights won't rtb or depending on the map can't get there in time. There's no scouting or keeping tabs on the enemy in pug matches. At least on this server base caps have skyrocketed since the removal of turrets. Wait times with every mode selected aren't much faster, I have to guess because most people feel like me. I love this game but it really has gone to hell. The dwindling player base and toxic attitude on the forum reflect that clearly.

Edited by adamts01, 23 October 2015 - 03:17 AM.

[SWAccelerated Gaming]

Paigan, on 23 October 2015 - 02:08 AM, said:

I guess you encountered 1-2 of those rushes with a team not able to handle it and now you blame the game mode.

ok, not every game is like what I described... but its not 1-2 games either. its 50/50. Chances are you waited awhile for queue and end up getting a match that lasts maybe 2 minutes. and this doesn't happen all the time either. its 50/50

My opinion of the assault mode is half the time, it is over too quick.

[Vellron2005]

I've unchecked everything but skirmish after the Payback event..

If I wanted to play Nascar, I'd install the EA Sports version...

Also, Conquest has become boring, since it's basically skirmish, with the ability to loose a 10:2 kill lead to a single light.

[Mudhutwarrior]

I don't think I will ever understand the mentality that drives certain posters to not ask why a person is having an expereince but only to ever counter their expereince is fine.

The level of non thinking required for that is execptionally low, and very common on the forums almost a race like and assualt match. It's who gets on first to discount the OP.

PS OP, Had two matches exactely as you described last night. The thing is that is the goal of assault so better to have a plan with teammates at the start if you don't want to base rush. Or Just enjoy the ride like I do. Last one like that last night I had 66 dam and overall one kill between 24 players. It was over pretty quickly. No big deal on to the next one.

[stjobe]

PUG life.

What should happen is you manage to convince your team to NOT race to the enemy base; move towards it at the assault 'mech's pace, while your light lance scouts forward. When the light lance finds the enemy, they should return to the main force, which will set up to receive the other team trickling in lights first, then mediums and fast heavies.

You should be able to outnumber and defeat them rather handily, and after that you can just roll over the enemy assaults and slow heavies (are there still slow heavies?) or cap the base, whichever you prefer. Either way, by paying a modicum of respect to defending your base, you'll have won the match long before the last enemy is dead.

Base rushing cannot succeed against an enemy that doesn't base rush as well.

But, as I said: PUG life. That kind of coordination in a PUG is once in a blue moon, so I share your pain. What should be the most tactical of game mode often devolves into simple base rushing because PUGs will be PUGs.

[TWIAFU]

SWAccelerated Gaming, on 23 October 2015 - 12:59 AM, said:

Assault game mode = pilot mech across map, stand on base and win/lose.

I un-checked this game mode until fixed, who else did the same?

Assault mode is legit way to force 12 players down in rankings.

Fast light, cap accelerator, and watch enemy complain.

[CDLord HHGD]

L2P the mode. If you are unable to, uncheck it and be done with it. Don't whine about it like a {Dezgra}. You want TDM? We got that (Skirmish)! You want cap influence but not insta-win? We got that (Conquest)! You want base cap? We got that (Assault)! You want choice? GASP! We got that too!

Edited by cdlord, 23 October 2015 - 04:25 AM.

[DaZur]

Why does that happen? Simple… Teams don't stop to think "maybe I should stick around near the base and defend it " there by defeating any lame arse base rush ...

Instead, let's rush to the forum and complain that nobody plays the way I play.

Players have to own up and break the cycle... It's not like the base rush mechanic is going to self correct.

Edited by DaZur, 23 October 2015 - 04:32 AM.