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[adamts01]

I really hope they pull through. They NEED to make this game more approachable to get new players. They can't leave broken mechs alone for so long like they did the Firestarter. They need to address laser spamming, otherwise every map is the same poking battle. Every new mech is loadable with lasers or DOA. Otherwise they'll keep losing their players. It's so frustrating to see.

[GRiPSViGiL]

+1000 OP. PGI doesn't deserve anymore money from this community with broken CW and the lame quirk system forced upon us just to name a few. I don't give a crap about lore at all but the main selling point they built the game on which was Community Warfare is a huge failure. This game will never reach it's full potential the way PGIs development has been going for years. People keep saying they need money, well ya they would get money with a robust CW, robust skill tree players can choose their quirks, Getting rid of the Power creep, Making info warfare matter,(not like they are attempting to now). I could go on and on but at this point it is futile. The people willing to buy these "new" mech packs just keep their gravy train going. All these mechs are redundant anyway.

Steam will laugh at this game.

Edited by GRiPSViGiL, 23 October 2015 - 05:02 AM.

[Paigan]

Kira Onime, on 22 October 2015 - 06:44 PM, said:

PGI has to make money somehow.

That's why there's a TON of ideas like:

- Replay function with a tiny MC price per stored replay
- MC-crowdfunded new maps, features, PvE missions, etc
- more optical customization options, decals, etc.
- customizable hangar and whatnot

Selling solely mechs is a self-deprecating business-model: At some point, every player has bought (with real money) every Mech he wants/needs and can wait for the rest to buy via CB or even never (I'm one of those, for example).
So despite players being active and LOVING the game, PGI does not make any more money from them.
This is a business model aiming for suicide in the long run.

Edited by Paigan, 23 October 2015 - 05:03 AM.

[Doman Hugin]

I've not bought a mech with £ or MC since phoenix package, and i won't. I've got enough content to keep me happy for a long time and patient enough to wait untill mechs are available for C-Bills.

But give me an option of a £10 subscription with primium time, camo's, colours, and a few MC a month, and i'll snap it up.

[Mordric]

Yeah, fix the currently bugs, coding, and mech blance issues first. Then lets get back to the mech builds. I really like this game. But its getting a lot of on going problems that are taking away from the fun of this game.

Yeah, fix the currently bugs, coding, and mech blance issues first. Then lets get back to the mech builds. I really like this game. But its getting a lot of on going problems that are taking away from the fun of this game.

Yeah, fix the currently bugs, coding, and mech blance issues first. Then lets get back to the mech builds. I really like this game. But its getting a lot of on going problems that are taking away from the fun of this game.

[Ted Wayz]

Until they develop new methods to monetize the game and fund the Steam release expect more mechw not less.

And it is not like the resources for mechw creation and content creation have much overlap. You want to fire Alex to hire a coder?

[BARBAR0SSA]

I'm with OP, they lost sales from me on Wave II that I down graded to just that POS myst lynx for the bonus time and so I had something light for CW.
Then Cancelled my Wave 3 completely after realizing there was nothing to play besides 3 super repetitive modes we have

Then didn't buy any Resistance II, IIC, Warhammer or Marauder packages because all they are doing is releasing mechs and zero content, was expecting CW3 or something.

Along with the middle finger to Canadians by charging USD which is just dirty.

So yeah mech packs keep the lights on, but they need to sell them to get the money from them.

Edited by shad0w4life, 23 October 2015 - 07:05 AM.

[DesertPenguin]

Kira Onime, on 22 October 2015 - 06:44 PM, said:

PGI has to make money somehow.

Make buying premium time/mc more attractive then. Imo there just isn't enough to justify throwing money at PGI but for that one favorite mech of yours...

Edited by DesertPenguin, 23 October 2015 - 07:18 AM.

[Mechteric]

I won't ask for more mechs after we get the Bushwhacker


and the Black Lanner


and Phoenix Hawk


and Supernova


and and and

[TorinZ]

Frankly, I keep telling myself that there are not many more mechs I would buy anyway. Or most ones I would consider are further down the timeline and where I would want the newer weapon systems too. But I am sure they will find something to make me open my wallet again.
That being said, we do need to see more maps and modes to keep things more entertaining in drops. And I am hoping that since they are starting to play around with AI, we will see some interesting things happen from that. Yeah, I would not mind seeing some co-op mission scenarios that can provide some lore based stories, and could see paying for mission scenarios as another way PGI could get some income. Sometimes it would be nice to have some gameplay other than PvP that you could do to take a break from the PvP action, but still MWO. But I am also looking forward to see what they can do with AI forces to enhance the PvP gameplay. Maybe a game mode where both teams get some form of conventional forces to join the fight. Infantry forces to stomp on, tanks to shred, VTOLs to deal with, making battles a little more chaotic.

[GRiPSViGiL]

shad0w4life, on 23 October 2015 - 07:04 AM, said:

I'm with OP, they lost sales from me on Wave II that I down graded to just that POS myst lynx for the bonus time and so I had something light for CW.
Then Cancelled my Wave 3 completely after realizing there was nothing to play besides 3 super repetitive modes we have

Then didn't buy any Resistance II, IIC, Warhammer or Marauder packages because all they are doing is releasing mechs and zero content, was expecting CW3 or something.

Along with the middle finger to Canadians by charging USD which is just dirty.

So yeah mech packs keep the lights on, but they need to sell them to get the money from them.

Can't believe more people don't think this matter.

[Kushko]

Different people with different skills do mechs. Your request is the equivalent of you telling your housekeeper to stop cleaning the house because its clean enough but the electric wiring is faulty so she should go work on that.

[LordNothing]

i would pay real money for a 3060 weapons package.

[Myke Pantera]

I don't think that the folks doing mechs could be efficiently used for anything else. They might be able to help with maps, but they certainly won't help to improve balance or add new features.

Also there can never be enough mechs in this game, even if some fade into oblivion, new mechs give people a reason to play (aka leveling). I can't (don't want to) buy every mech pack out there, but I'm still excited whenever a new pack get's revealed.

[KuroNyra]

MischiefSC, on 22 October 2015 - 07:15 PM, said:

I'd pay $50 to get an MC/camo bundle or whatever as a vote for '**** you, no raptor ever'. They should do that vs the pre-order and see which gets the most and those people get their way.

I want the raptor.
Screw you, if PGI want to sell it. They can, and you don't have something to say or to block people if they want it.

I tought you were more polite than that. Apparently I was wrong and your one of thoses haters unable to listen to different opinions.

CapperDeluxe, on 23 October 2015 - 07:19 AM, said:

I won't ask for more mechs after we get the Bushwhacker


and the Black Lanner


and Phoenix Hawk


and Supernova


and and and

And the Marauder II.
And the Blood Asp, and the Mad Cat Mk.II

[LordKnightFandragon]

patataman, on 22 October 2015 - 06:57 PM, said:

It's in their own best interest to deliver new content. Bored customers have this ugly tendency to become no customers at all. I'm sure you all have lots of friends that left the game ages ago because they were bored. At least i do.

Yes, more content. Maps, PVE mode, more engaging gameplay that might draw in more players period. The only way to make money is not releasing more mechs, hoping that the same old people will continue to buy into a fairly mediocre game....

As it is, if i had the option, I would prolly get back all the cashish ive dropped on this game to this date. idk why ive spent what I have on it....I rarely even play. The Warhammer, a mech ive been waiting for since CBT is out and ive not nabbed it. I dont play the game enough to warrant it.

Maybe when it has PVE, it might draw in that crowd, I would return for PVE. Maybe when this rebalance is done, it might draw in old players back, it might actually get new players to come and stay, which nets more money.

More to making money then making new mechs. besides, it costs money to make the new mechs...

Work on other ways to improve the game and get people to willing spend money on whats here already.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Kira Onime, on 22 October 2015 - 06:44 PM, said:

PGI has to make money somehow.

I have a BRILLIANT idea - sell bug fixes and maps!

[Anarcho]

Mechwarrior Buddah, on 23 October 2015 - 01:01 PM, said:

I have a BRILLIANT idea - sell bug fixes and maps!

I wouldn't say that, but, put everybody focused on fixing bugs, re scaling stuff for 6 months, open monthly subscriptions with premium and goodies, do a lot of sales of already released mechs and packs. Then when most of the problems are fixed, start releasing new mechs again... Just sayin...

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Anarcho, on 23 October 2015 - 01:50 PM, said:

open monthly subscriptions with premium and goodies,

Last game I knew that tried cash shop AND monthly sub now has 3 devs on staff (Pathfinder Online)

[CMDR Sunset Shimmer]

Anarcho, on 22 October 2015 - 06:37 PM, said:

You guys know there is a fuckton different mechs in the Battletech universe, and everybody has its favorites for reasons. We also know that mechs=money, and PGI folks need to eat (some of then).

The point is, new mechs doesn't bring new life to the game, new maps, game modes and CW yes...

Competitive player base wants BALANCE, with the inclusion of more mechs will get harder to achieve every time (more quirks and math to be done)

Lore based players want IMMERSIVE community warfare, with missions, AI, logistics and stuff to keep the game interesting to play for a long time.

Yes, new mechs are cool, but the "shut up and take my money" atittude, specially around Town Halls, wouldn't help PGI realize that they need a solid and fun, not repetitive game, to keep us here, buying mechs...

So lets focus on CW and Balance requests this time gentleman.

1) There's an entire rebalance being worked on that's going to toss out quirks... so quirks don't matter anymore.

2)Mechs are just as much content as everything else, stop saying they're not. It's a battletech game, battlemechs are the important "center piece" of the game... without a huge selection of them, the game falls flat [not to mention, this is one of the first mechwarriors in a long time to get some battlemechs to play, so yes, more mechs we haven't seen in game before plox]

3) I agree we need more maps/modes/cw rebalance and the like... 100%, but guess what, the guys that work on the mechs, don't work on that other stuff... so let them keep churning out mechs and quit whining.

I do think that PGI should get some more guys that are focused on Maps/Modes though...

Mechwarrior Buddah, on 23 October 2015 - 02:02 PM, said:

Last game I knew that tried cash shop AND monthly sub now has 3 devs on staff (Pathfinder Online)

Clearly you've never played Star Trek online.

Paigan, on 23 October 2015 - 05:01 AM, said:

That's why there's a TON of ideas like:

- Replay function with a tiny MC price per stored replay
- MC-crowdfunded new maps, features, PvE missions, etc
- more optical customization options, decals, etc.
- customizable hangar and whatnot

Selling solely mechs is a self-deprecating business-model: At some point, every player has bought (with real money) every Mech he wants/needs and can wait for the rest to buy via CB or even never (I'm one of those, for example).
So despite players being active and LOVING the game, PGI does not make any more money from them.
This is a business model aiming for suicide in the long run.

Except you know, there's... how many more era's of battletech? I think the tabletop game is currently up to the 3200's... at least?

So there's ALWAYS going to be new mechs, which means more people plunking down more money. You DO know we're not going to be sitting at clan invasion for the entirety of this game's lifespan right?