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Psa: During An Event, A "win Is Not A Win": Don't Cap During Events


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#1 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 28 October 2015 - 06:27 PM

all you are doing is screwing pretty much EVERYONE out of chances at the grab bag.

#2 Joseph Mallan

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Posted 28 October 2015 - 06:28 PM

But what if the Capper isn't participating in the event and just wants to do his/her thing? :huh:

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Posted 28 October 2015 - 06:30 PM

it should be common sense.... but these days, common sense isn't.

View PostJoseph Mallan, on 28 October 2015 - 06:28 PM, said:

But what if the Capper isn't participating in the event and just wants to do his/her thing? :huh:

everyone is auto entered. It's kind of dumb not to try for them.

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Posted 28 October 2015 - 06:32 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 28 October 2015 - 06:30 PM, said:

it should be common sense.... but these days, common sense isn't.


everyone is auto entered. It's kind of dumb not to try for them.

My average match score is under 100 Its kinda dumb for me to think I'm having a chance. ;)

So someone like me shouldn't play? :huh:

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Posted 28 October 2015 - 06:34 PM

I'll cap if all my weapons are destroyed for example, or it's in my best interest
May as well screw my opponent over
I'm not going to lose for their sake. It's a game

#6 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 28 October 2015 - 06:42 PM

View PostJoseph Mallan, on 28 October 2015 - 06:32 PM, said:

My average match score is under 100 Its kinda dumb for me to think I'm having a chance. ;)

So someone like me shouldn't play? :huh:

if you are playing in a way that intenionally is telling everyone else "EFF YOU"?

I'll let you do th emath

#7 Joseph Mallan

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Posted 28 October 2015 - 06:59 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 28 October 2015 - 06:42 PM, said:

if you are playing in a way that intenionally is telling everyone else "EFF YOU"?

I'll let you do th emath

So its ok when everyone else wants to be a special snowflake but not me? You hurt me man you really hurt me! All this time I thought this game was all about the individual's happiness not the majority! :huh:

Most people here tell me "EFF YOU" so what the reverse is not cool? :o

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Posted 28 October 2015 - 07:09 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 28 October 2015 - 06:27 PM, said:

all you are doing is screwing pretty much EVERYONE out of chances at the grab bag.


Sounds like an issue PGI needs to address... because shouldn't a Win... you know... be a "win" instead of a "whine?"

HEY GODDAMMIT! Don't play the game mode like how it's supposed to be played! What's wrong with you?!?

Edited by Lansid, 28 October 2015 - 07:11 PM.


#9 Levi Porphyrogenitus

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Posted 28 October 2015 - 07:14 PM

You know, if capture wins were actually worth something, then maybe this issue wouldn't be an issue.

And of course it's always better to sneak a capture at the last second than to let the enemy just kill you all. Sure, try to win the fight first, but by no means take capture wins off the table.

#10 sycocys

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Posted 28 October 2015 - 08:04 PM

Or, if you don't want matches that can end in base caps - uncheck those modes and deal with the longer waits.

#11 CycKath

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Posted 28 October 2015 - 09:23 PM

View Postsycocys, on 28 October 2015 - 08:04 PM, said:

Or, if you don't want matches that can end in base caps - uncheck those modes and deal with the longer waits.


Only have it checked before of the prizes, as soon as they disappear everybody will desert assault and conquest again.

#12 Vellron2005

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Posted 29 October 2015 - 02:25 AM

And then they say Conquest isn't skirmish... lol

Play the game as you should, and you will get your points, geez...

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Posted 29 October 2015 - 02:52 AM

All I do is win, win, win no matter what
got capping on my mind I can never get enough
and every time I step up in the mech
everybody hands go up
and they stay there
and they say yeah
and they stay there
Up down, up down, up down
'Cause all I do is win, win, win
and if you goin’ in put your hands in the air
make them stay there

#14 Mechteric

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Posted 29 October 2015 - 05:45 AM

View PostJoseph Mallan, on 28 October 2015 - 06:28 PM, said:

But what if the Capper isn't participating in the event and just wants to do his/her thing? :huh:


Also, just so everyone is clear: my callsign isn't about Capping bases, it's about Capping Foo's :D

#15 Screech

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Posted 29 October 2015 - 05:51 AM

People should not pick game modes that they will ignore the winning conditions of that mode. Nothing in the current event will prevent people from defending their base.

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Posted 29 October 2015 - 05:53 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 28 October 2015 - 06:27 PM, said:

all you are doing is screwing pretty much EVERYONE out of chances at the grab bag.

Wait, isn't it actually the other way around:

One wants to play the game, wants to win (see things like builds, strategies, tactics, team play, etc. work out well) but due to a combination of dumb event design AND dumb people, the matches get ruined?

I call it common sense to NOT ruin the matches for everyone just to optimize event qualifying.

Edited by Paigan, 29 October 2015 - 05:54 AM.


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Posted 29 October 2015 - 06:05 AM

View PostPaigan, on 29 October 2015 - 05:53 AM, said:

Wait, isn't it actually the other way around:

One wants to play the game, wants to win (see things like builds, strategies, tactics, team play, etc. work out well) but due to a combination of dumb event design AND dumb people, the matches get ruined?

I call it common sense to NOT ruin the matches for everyone just to optimize event qualifying.

and immediately running and capping the base helps anyone how?

You win.
(woohoo!)
You barely play the game
You deny your teamamates the chance to play the game
You just spent more time LOOKING for match than playing in one
You screw everyone, yourself included out of a chance to win a grab bag
You screw everyone, yourself included, out of earnign any real cbills or xp (and of course this game is famous for it's lack of grind, so that cool, right?)

It's one thing to cap to win, after determining that is the only recourse (you know, after your team engages the enemy and it's going rather poorly), and something entirely different to do it in the first 2-3 minutes of the game when shots have barely been traded.

Folks need to stop being obtuse, when it's pretty obvious that is what is being referred to.

As for unchecking the game mode? Sorry, PGI has determined that those interested in the event need to get a matchscore of 250 or more 25x. Really hard to get that match score, or even have fun playing the game when little tossers are just running off to cap immediately.


So if you consider waiting 5+ plus minutes to get into a match, to have it capped out in under 2, with no combat, no rewards, no cbills and xp the right way to play the game, then sorry, we got issues.

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Posted 29 October 2015 - 06:06 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 28 October 2015 - 06:42 PM, said:

if you are playing in a way that intenionally is telling everyone else "EFF YOU"?

I'll let you do th emath

When isn't a base rush a big EFFF YOU?

You always get less XP and Cbill in a cap rush than you do in fighting. This is why I rarely play those modes.

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Posted 29 October 2015 - 06:10 AM

View PostScreech, on 29 October 2015 - 05:51 AM, said:

People should not pick game modes that they will ignore the winning conditions of that mode. Nothing in the current event will prevent people from defending their base.

Yeah most people who actually enjoy playing the game, have unchecked Assault long ago because of annoying little trolls hiding behind that reasoning. This event sort of demands people play at least 25 matches. I would love to get my 25x Assault, move on and uncheck it, hard to do with you little twerps running out every match and capping(for my team or against) right away.

Enjoy earning no cbills or xp, either. Yeah, you buff your shiny WL for all that's worth. Whoopty do.

SMH

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Posted 29 October 2015 - 06:14 AM

The event doesn't demand anything. Just play normally.





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