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[Sp4rtan]

Hello mechwarriors! and Pgi

Here is what I was thinking while I was waiting at the drop que. . .

Correct me if I am wrong but we all agree that the c-bills grinding is a painfull procedure especially for the new pilots.

So as I was saying in my opinion pgi as a company you need to earn some money and that's the way it is , thats a fact!!! You have to make us (in a good way) to buy mcs!!!

So how about raising the c-bills reward!? Tha will makes us to buy more mechs!!! YAyYyYyYY!
More mechs leads to more Mech bays More mechs will create more collectors, which they will want to buys the hero variants as well!!!!
More paints!
More Colors!
More camo Patterns!
More MCSSSSSS

MORE $$$$$$$ for Pgi more Fun for us And more Players attracted to the game which all we love with our hearts and soul!!!

Try this small adjustment see what happens! I Believe it;s a win/win for all of us!

Peace!

Edited by Sp4rtan, 26 October 2015 - 04:18 AM.

[Duke Nedo]

On the other hand, if you cant be arsed to grind the cbills for the 100+ mechs you want, you may buy a single mech pack and that will offset every bay or paint you can imagine....

Edited by Duke Nedo, 26 October 2015 - 04:18 AM.

[Speedy Plysitkos]

ye.... PIECE brother.

[sycocys]

I both agree with Duke - and that's exactly how it work. I couldn't be bothered to grind out c-bills for the clan mechs when I cam back so I purchased the packs. I don't think there's enough colors in the game to offset the cost of one Clan wave bundle.

Also don't think the grind is half as bad as people make it out to be. It's supposed to take 50% longer if you refuse to buy premium time, or 30-80% longer if you aren't buying any of the hero-ized mechs. It is simply how you encourage people to buy in when the f2p model is so shallow and nearly entirely focused towards getting you to purchase mech packs.

[Johnny Redburn]

Dude read carefully. The idea is More C-Bills rewards will boost the players wallets thus obliging them to get more mechs and more MC enchancments. Like in Real Life poor people don't spent, rich people spent more.

[Speedy Plysitkos]

Johnny Redburn, on 26 October 2015 - 05:32 AM, said:

Dude read carefully. The idea is More C-Bills rewards will boost the players wallets thus obliging them to get more mechs and more MC enchancments. Like in Real Life poor people don't spent, rich people spent more.

not working here. Cause all mechs are later for cbills, which means, all will wait and get all mechs faster for cbills, = no $ for PGI.

[sycocys]

Why would I ever buy mechpacks if I could farm the c-bills for any mech I wanted in less than the few hours (to 6-8 or so for heavier clan mechs) it currently takes?

Why would I buy any more colors than the few I actually like just because I had more mechs?

More c-bills might, might sell more mechbays, but the same people getting more c-bills would just as likely go ahead and sell mechs since it won't take anything to buy them back later.

I know people are all "ZOMG Grind", but there is an actual reasoning behind it - to sell stuff to reduce the grind.

[Khorender]

Game is ftp and people want more free stuff the grind in this game isn't really that bad compared to other ftp ones, another post on things posted before and... hmmmm I fell for it gg..

[TLBFestus]

That would be contrary to the PAULECONOMY.

Heretics should burn!

Seriously though, too easy a grind is bad, just as too hard a grind is bad. I will agree that PGI has erred on the side of "too hard", though. If you tossed in cheaper colors, cockpit items, etc., then I think the taps would open in a significant enough manner to be noticed.

[Sp4rtan]

Khorender, on 26 October 2015 - 07:18 AM, said:

Game is ftp and people want more free stuff the grind in this game isn't really that bad compared to other ftp ones, another post on things posted before and... hmmmm I fell for it gg..

gg? you think I gain something out of it ? oh i feel so sry for you! gg

[sycocys]

You would. You'd get free mechs faster and never even look twice at the next mech collection or premium time bundle.

[Khorender]

What Sycocys said

[Sp4rtan]

sycocys, on 26 October 2015 - 07:28 AM, said:

You would. You'd get free mechs faster and never even look twice at the next mech collection or premium time bundle.

well.....no! See with the packages you get "some" ( a **** tons) xtra rewards such as:,
1)early acces to the mechs,
2)unique variants,
3)plus mechbays,
4)Not to mention the appreciation gifts that come afterwards.......
so it;s a diffrent story you can't compare package mechs with the c-bill mech! srlsy!
Most of the people who buy packages they do it for the unique variants, the early acces, the modules and the tons of other bonuses!!!
hell its not only mechs :-p

About the premium time you also get xp boost!! and more c bills! so yeah you still don't loose tha sweet sense of green when you go premium.

Plus with the premium time you get private lobby acces! I mean cmooonn this is. . . . !!! xD Premium time sales are not going to lose that much! nor the mech packages!!!

[STEF_]

Khorender, on 26 October 2015 - 07:18 AM, said:

Game is ftp and people want more free stuff the grind in this game isn't really that bad compared to other ftp ones, another post on things posted before and... hmmmm I fell for it gg..

Oh yeaaaaaaa!!

So happy to grin and grind and grind and grind and....


oh, wait...

(lol)

[Bobzilla]

You have to look at it from the standpoint of:

People willing to spend money do and those not willing to spend money won't.

So low cbill earnings really just causes those who won't pay to not want to play. It doesn't motivate them to spend, because if they don't enjoy playing (grinding) then why buy mechs to play (grind) with? And if they don't want to pay, but enjoy playing (grinding), the low cbills means nothing, tho they will have to spend on mechbays (but not nearly as fast or as much due to low cbill earnings).

People willing to spend buy mech packs and PT, but the PT is for XP not cbills, as they get most of the mechs through packs which adds PT anyways. So low cbill earings doesn't affect them either.

Low cbill earnings affects the casual/new player that isn't invested in the game. So they won't stick around long enough to want to buy things.

Then again, I don't know where they make most of their money. I'm guessing its from packs. So those invested and willing to spend will buy a pack, and you may get a new/casual player to buy one too. But then they quickly realize they still have to grind them out anyways, and a pack will take them a very long time to master (being new or casual), probably until a new pack is out. So cbill earnings isn't really a big deal there either.

Mods take a long time for gxp, so cbills don't matter.

No amount you can spend on the game takes the 'grind' out if you don't enjoy the game.

[Khorender]

Stefka where did I say I was grinning and bearing it ? the grind is real yet I said" not as bad as others. "

MWO is FREE and yet another thread on getting more for free, the main useless grinds for me are the 3 chassis rule, I understand it from a marketing point but after the 3rd or 4th time it get's old, and CW they can keep trying to bribe me to play it again, after the Tuk event there is little to no desire. Give me a better game not more free stuff that's already free.

[Torgun]

The whole business model is fashioned to make people buy most things with money to keep it from being a painful grind. And if you don't think it's worth it, you'll get fed up and stop playing instead. Player base is just going to keep shrinking, but PGI are fine with it as long as the biggest spenders are being milked for all they're worth.

[Malagant]

sycocys, on 26 October 2015 - 06:58 AM, said:

Why would I ever buy mechpacks if I could farm the c-bills for any mech I wanted in less than the few hours (to 6-8 or so for heavier clan mechs) it currently takes?

Why would I buy any more colors than the few I actually like just because I had more mechs?

More c-bills might, might sell more mechbays, but the same people getting more c-bills would just as likely go ahead and sell mechs since it won't take anything to buy them back later.

I know people are all "ZOMG Grind", but there is an actual reasoning behind it - to sell stuff to reduce the grind.

Ya but even with premium time the grind is unbearable, plus the abyssmal repetition combined with all the other flaws...sorry but it's getting to be too much.

Edited by Malagant, 26 October 2015 - 01:09 PM.

[Brethgar]

Would I like to buy a Direwolf? Yes. Will I ever? No because I have to buy 3 and currently that is a ridiculous sum for my situation. Will I buy it in a pack? No because ala-cart is absurd. Would I appreciate a boost in cbills? Certainly because even with premium time the grind to get free mechs takes forever. Do I think the boost should be a lot? No. I think a 10-20% boost wouldn't destroy the grind but would ease the pain by a bit. 100k cbills for a match would be 120k. Not a huge difference. Of course that would be before premium and hero/special bonuses are added. I don't think that is asking too much.

Just my two cbills tho.

[Burktross]

not gunna happen