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[Rebas Kradd]

"NEED BACKUP!"
"NEED BACKUP!"
"NEED BACKUP!"
"NEED BACKUP!"
"NEED BACKUP!"

No thanks.

[zudukai]

Rebas Kradd, on 29 October 2015 - 11:38 AM, said:

"NEED BACKUP!"
"NEED BACKUP!"
"NEED BACKUP!"
"NEED BACKUP!"
"NEED BACKUP!"

No thanks.

I was thinking more about hud elements, like a gold and red "mech target box" with additional details alongside the designation. with associated text in chat, for nav points and the like, but still a quick directory based orders, like "place Nav> target, or structure or gate"

to add farther to that, the context menu can also easily have "flank left, push, hold, face (compass)" and other tactical stuff the DC and lance commanders can take advantage of.

if the menu has some length, but is quicker then typing, while also having a cooldown should avoid spam situations.

Edited by zudukai, 29 October 2015 - 12:14 PM.

[Makenzie71]

Rebas Kradd, on 29 October 2015 - 11:38 AM, said:

"NEED BACKUP!"
"NEED BACKUP!"
"NEED BACKUP!"
"NEED BACKUP!"
"NEED BACKUP!"

No thanks.

Ideally there would be a cooldown for the call (once per match is my suggestion) to prevent it.

[PanzerMagier]

Here's how I see it.

"Make it a consumable"

[Vellron2005]

Even though its a good idea, it would get so much abuse that it would not be viable..

Maybe for CW only.. And only then given to lance commanders and above.

Hey that's not actually a bad idea..

Sure, make the button.. but it unlocks ONLY after you achieve 500 matches.

by then, you should be knowledgeable enough to know when to hit it...

[Shae Starfyre]

I think that the little team icons on the mini map should ping/flash when under fire. I think that is all we need (maybe a C3 mechanic)

[MarsThunder]

Vellron2005, on 30 October 2015 - 03:32 AM, said:

Sure, make the button.. but it unlocks ONLY after you achieve 500 matches.
by then, you should be knowledgeable enough to know when to hit it...

Yeah, really good idea

[DAEDALOS513]

I agree with this.. as some ppl have difficulty relaying their grid location while under heavy attack. This will automate this.. i like it!

The only problem, it will be abused unfortunately. I would go for it if it only relayed the signal to within the same unit or group members.

Edited by DAEDALOS513, 30 October 2015 - 06:25 AM.

[DAEDALOS513]

Bud Crue, on 29 October 2015 - 08:47 AM, said:

I call this: Dropping a UAV.

You are actually so right.

[Makenzie71]

How many votes does this need to get before there is a developer response?

[gloowa]

I just want to say that i completely disagree with "players run off and call for help" commsnts. From my experience, it's people running off and the slow guy left behind is calling for help.

[zudukai]

gloowa, on 31 October 2015 - 09:47 AM, said:

I just want to say that i completely disagree with "players run off and call for help" commsnts. From my experience, it's people running off and the slow guy left behind is calling for help.

though i do agree (that your scenario happens), i think players would have more to gain with a system like this, doubling the value of the company and lance command positions, while adding some useful features to the rest of the team.

i would hope with this system, your slow guy would already know where the team is going more often, since the Commander and lance commanders would be offering more communication more often, as well as the target data, giving the slow guy prior knowledge of the main group's course of action.

and i agree it would be critical to have a delay between messages, to avoid a situation like that becoming a distraction, while still making note of his failure loss.

Edited by zudukai, 31 October 2015 - 11:02 AM.

[gloowa]

zudukai, on 31 October 2015 - 10:33 AM, said:

though i do agree (that your scenario happens), i think players would have more to gain with a system like this, doubling the value of the company and lance command positions, while adding some useful features to the rest of the team.

i would hope with this system, your slow guy would already know where the team is going more often, since the Commander and lance commanders would be offering more communication more often, as well as the target data, giving the slow guy prior knowledge of the main group's course of action.

and i agree it would be critical to have a delay between messages, to avoid a situation like that becoming a distraction, while still making note of his failure loss.

Don't take my comment as something against the idea. I have fond memories of voice chats (not to be confused with VOIP) in Tribes or Wolfenstein games. I dunno why recently more and more games give up on voicechat... a simple comms menu with ~8 basic comms would be useful IMO.

And before people go all "just use VOIP" on me, let me say this: i would love to. except i can't. The TeamSpeak comms in MWO are configured that when you press the comms button it does not start transmitting. It just enables the voice-level-activation, which means that it doesn't work for me, as my USB headset has quite quiet mic AND drivers lack the "mic boost" option which means that unless i scream (and i mean SCREAM) the volume is too low to go over the activation treshold. Best part is, i have zero issues with regular TeamSpeak client - when i have all the sliders, etc i can set it up so it works in any way i want to.

Edited by gloowa, 01 November 2015 - 06:28 AM.

[Makenzie71]

More votes and comments please. I would like to keep this active.

[Sigmar Sich]

Such buttons are needed. But spam is very serious downside. To prevent spam, usage of such buttons should be limited, once or twice per match. So you have to think, when you really need help.

[rolly]

I'd rather have to deal with spamming the "HLEP" key until the novelty wears off and it becomes used than the absolutely silence while my team gets death rolled while it wanders around like sheep.

Seriously. This happened in World of WarRussianShips. They introduced the Function Key Comms and it got spammed for about 3 days then guess what, everyone started to use it like how it was meant to be used.

PGI should go for this, its the minimum viable feature they've been looking for. In about 6 months they can charge MC for having the "Affirmative" "Negative" keys installed.

Edited by rolly, 03 November 2015 - 09:57 AM.

[Quic]

I would love it. There have been times when I have either been left behind or was scouting and I was calling for help into my headset and no one knew who was calling or where. Being harrassed by 3 lights and a medium or two requires more attention than finding a grid and keying the talk key. Especially if you want to take a couple of them with you!

Also, when I am in my fast mech, I like to act like a rapid response. I escort the slower mechs and assist mechs when I see their indicator doing that dance that indicates multiple attackers or a light mech orbiting them. It would be great if a single button push would let me know where they are. It would also help in those times when your teammates may not speak the same language as you or are listening to some sick death metal and not listening to the comms at all.

You cannot expect everyone in a PUG server to act like a hardcore player. However, if you give them the tools most PUG players (except the real D-bags) will try to work together to get that win.

A simple tone over team headsets and a blinking indicator on the HUD and map would be pretty easy to do. Make it a single use per map. Have it turn off when the mech is destroyed or toggle off by the pilot or if they stop taking damage for a certain period of time.

[zudukai]

rolly, on 03 November 2015 - 09:56 AM, said:

I'd rather have to deal with spamming the "HLEP" key until the novelty wears off and it becomes used than the absolutely silence while my team gets death rolled while it wanders around like sheep.

Seriously. This happened in World of WarRussianShips. They introduced the Function Key Comms and it got spammed for about 3 days then guess what, everyone started to use it like how it was meant to be used.

PGI should go for this, its the minimum viable feature they've been looking for. In about 6 months they can charge MC for having the "Affirmative" "Negative" keys installed.

World of WarRussianShips?

care to share a link? i would like to look into their system

[PsychoMike55]

What if not a message but your position arrow flashes a different color on the mini map?

[Mazzyplz]

i have to vote no, but for a different reason.
i think 2 things will happen



1- like someone said they will call to chase a squirrel, this is a bad thing when it happens.
new players need to learn that chasing the squirrel is a negative as it leads to loss

2- the other thing that will happen is if this gets implemented, people won't really learn really good positioning; if they can be bailed out like that. it enforces the player to learn wrong.
it will impact the skill of the player base



the only way this would work is if only dire whale, atlas and king crab can use it.
they are the only ones that merit the team knowing if the 100 tonner is dying or not