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#1 xXBagheeraXx

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Posted 02 February 2016 - 07:05 PM

Are we just NOT going to do hero mechs anymore? Before all these package deals started we used to get a hero mech released, then a week later the mechs on that lineup came out for Mc. then later for Cbills. While I have enjoyed the Unseens being released in packs because the prices are resonable, I kinda wonder about heros for other mechs...Like the King Crab for example.

The loyalty variant is no longer available, and I'm not dropping nearly 50 bucks on the steam pack that has the (s) variant...I don't want a hero whale that I'm not likely to drive due to the poor mobility/torso twist arc they have now.

Also how are we going to do heros for clan mechs that where released in packages? Not everyone could afford those old 200+ dollar packages so wont have an Invasion variant.

#2 Vickinator

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Posted 02 February 2016 - 07:07 PM

So you've just ignored the Hero Kodiak coming out and the 4 hero variants (1 each) for the Unseens that have come out?

Oh and the new catapult hero coming out, the Butterbee.

Edited by Vickinator, 02 February 2016 - 07:09 PM.


#3 xXBagheeraXx

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Posted 02 February 2016 - 07:24 PM

Those where still released in packages. IF they release mechs in package deals from now on thats one thing but it does not solve the issue of the mechs that where released before without heros. You also have to be mindful of the people who cannot spend 60 to 80 bucks buying packages, so get the mechs when they come out for Cbills..spending a quick 20 bucks on 1 mech might be a bit more do-able for them.

Also the butterbee isnt exactly "new" persay. it was shot down back in the day because people thought it wasnt fair that it had better hardpoints than ALL the other catapults and would be "OP"

Lel.

(im totally getting one tho)

#4 Karl Marlow

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Posted 02 February 2016 - 07:26 PM

Which mechs don't have a hero variant?

#5 Trauglodyte

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Posted 02 February 2016 - 07:32 PM

Panther, Wolfhound, Enforcer, all of the Clan Mechs, arguably the Awesome.

#6 Adamski

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Posted 02 February 2016 - 07:33 PM

View PostThomasMarik, on 02 February 2016 - 07:26 PM, said:

Which mechs don't have a hero variant?


UrbanMech
Panther
Wolfhound

Crab
Enforcer

Grasshopper
Black Knight

Zeuss
Mauler
King Crab

Essentially, the Resistance 1 & 2 packs, the UrbanMech & King Crab
That still leaves 33 Hero mechs that you CAN buy

#7 Karl Marlow

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Posted 02 February 2016 - 07:34 PM

Ah that explains why I couldn't think of them. I was thinking through the older mechs.

#8 Mcgral18

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Posted 02 February 2016 - 07:36 PM

View PostVickinator, on 02 February 2016 - 07:07 PM, said:

So you've just ignored the Hero Kodiak coming out and the 4 hero variants (1 each) for the Unseens that have come out?

Oh and the new catapult hero coming out, the Butterbee.


Marauder Hero isn't available for MC yet, do we know if it ever will? Cbill release time?

Or only ever for $? Same question goes for Kodiak (and Rifleman, as well as any of THOSE)

#9 Adamski

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Posted 02 February 2016 - 07:46 PM

View PostMcgral18, on 02 February 2016 - 07:36 PM, said:


Marauder Hero isn't available for MC yet, do we know if it ever will? Cbill release time?

Or only ever for $? Same question goes for Kodiak (and Rifleman, as well as any of THOSE)


I'm sure it will be added to the store whenever PGI adds the rest of the Marauders.

Judging by previous release schedules, that should be in April, but PGI hasn't given a firm store release date, so I don't know if they will keep the classic mechs as a bundle only option or not. (The same thing happened with the Urban Mech, where PGI didn't commit to a general release date, but it was 4/5 months later the same as every other mech pack).

#10 SgtMagor

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Posted 02 February 2016 - 07:51 PM

Hero Kody a otay, but i hope we dont have to wait 4 months or more before they release the mech?...

#11 Kira Onime

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Posted 02 February 2016 - 07:57 PM

View PostMcgral18, on 02 February 2016 - 07:36 PM, said:

Marauder Hero isn't available for MC yet, do we know if it ever will? Cbill release time?


From the FAQ.

Q: Will the Bounty Hunter Hero Marauder be available for purchase in-game with MC?
Yes, but the MC release date is TBD.

#12 xXBagheeraXx

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Posted 02 February 2016 - 08:09 PM

that still leaves all the wave 1-3 clan mechs for people who did not get a package.

Edited by xXBagheeraXx, 02 February 2016 - 08:10 PM.


#13 Narcissistic Martyr

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Posted 02 February 2016 - 08:39 PM

View PostThomasMarik, on 02 February 2016 - 07:26 PM, said:

Which mechs don't have a hero variant?


Resistance 1 and 2 mechs don't, No clan heros at all,

Aside from those, King Crab and Urbanmech (AKA best mech)

So... basically everything they released since they switched to the mega pack model. Whereas all of the mech of the older month models got heroes more or less the same month they were released.

#14 Kira Onime

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Posted 03 February 2016 - 07:54 AM

View PostNarcissistic Martyr, on 02 February 2016 - 08:39 PM, said:

Aside from those, King Crab and Urbanmech (AKA best mech)




Urbies don't need a hero mech 'cause every Urbie is a god damned hero.

#15 MeiSooHaityu

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Posted 03 February 2016 - 07:56 AM

View PostKira Onime, on 03 February 2016 - 07:54 AM, said:



Urbies don't need a hero mech 'cause every Urbie is a god damned hero.


+1,000,000

Edited by MeiSooHaityu, 03 February 2016 - 07:56 AM.


#16 Quicksilver Aberration

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Posted 03 February 2016 - 08:35 AM

View PostxXBagheeraXx, on 02 February 2016 - 08:09 PM, said:

that still leaves all the wave 1-3 clan mechs for people who did not get a package.

Until they figure out a decent way to not make heroes absolutely borked with omnimechs, then that's probably best (not to mention less mechs paywalled is always a plus).

#17 Tarogato

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Posted 03 February 2016 - 09:05 AM

View PostxXBagheeraXx, on 02 February 2016 - 07:05 PM, said:

The loyalty variant is no longer available, and I'm not dropping nearly 50 bucks on the steam pack that has the (s) variant...I don't want a hero whale that I'm not likely to drive due to the poor mobility/torso twist arc they have now.


Think about it this way.

For 50 US$ you get 12,000 MC.

The hero Atlas costs 7,500 MC and you'll have 4,500 MC left over for whatever you want. So basically the hero Atlas costs 35$ dollars. For the Steam pack you're getting:

- two 100-ton assaults with hero bonuses (worth 70$)
- they are pre-built with expensive equipment (worth maybe 5$)
- you get a camo unlock for both chassis (worth 11$)
- three paint colours (worth 14$)
- 4,000 MC (worth 17$)
- 30 days premium (worth 10$)
- 2 mechbays (worth 3$)
- 6.5mil C-Bills (worth 17$)

Total cost of all MC items: 147 US$.

Price of package: 50 US$.

And the DWF is still a monster of a mech after all the skill tree changes. Think about it like this: all of the skill tree changes were percent-based. The DWF has some of the smallest mobility values, so it received the least amount of "nerf" compared to other mechs. It's still the most powerful assault in the game and if you learn how to use it it's just a C-Bill farming machine.

#18 Rhaythe

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Posted 03 February 2016 - 09:05 AM

I actually miss some of the tongue-in-cheek Hero videos they used to put out. The ones Celestial did were pretty good.

#19 MeiSooHaityu

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Posted 03 February 2016 - 09:27 AM

View PostRhaythe, on 03 February 2016 - 09:05 AM, said:

I actually miss some of the tongue-in-cheek Hero videos they used to put out. The ones Celestial did were pretty good.


Me too. Imagine how cool a Bounty Hunter video could have been.

#20 Felicitatem Parco

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Posted 03 February 2016 - 11:06 AM

View PostQuicksilver Kalasa, on 03 February 2016 - 08:35 AM, said:

Until they figure out a decent way to not make heroes absolutely borked with omnimechs, then that's probably best (not to mention less mechs paywalled is always a plus).


Yeah, I think we should refer to them as "Clan Hero Omnipod Sets" instead of Clan Hero Mechs. Clan Mechs are only sets of Omnipods; they are not distinct Mechs excetpt for CT hardpoints, but even then the CT is nothing but a CT Omnipod.





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