118 replies to this topic

[Donegal]

Thanks for giving us a choice as to which map/mode we play and there by taking choice away from the players that only want to play one game mode. Oh and they can't refuse to play a game mode not of their choice now as it will get them a penalty. Guess we are going to see a few players running to their deaths to get out of a game mode they didn't want to play in the first place. Not me of course i'll play it all. But i know a few that you didn't do any favours.

This just struck me. A 12 man gets to decide map/mode. Think about that. OMG! Two 12 mans voting for for different maps/modes. How's the system gonna sort that out?

Edited by Donegal, 03 November 2015 - 11:47 AM.

[ForgeBreaker]

Agreed. When it comes to events, Ill play any game mode that comes to me then switch to the game mode I'm missing. Now I cant do this. But at the same time, you've just made it easier for premade groups to dictate which map and game mode is played by setting up this stupid voting system. I understand it was implemented to decrease wait times but theres different ways to do it without destroying the balance.

[Half]

Thats just great! Cant see a selection screen ..... i always end up in random maps and random game modes......!

[Idealsuspect]

Half, on 03 November 2015 - 11:52 AM, said:

Thats just great! Cant see a selection screen ..... i always end up in random maps and random game modes......!

Also you can't see others choose map and gamemode for you...I would prefer that than "have the power(illusion) to choose"

[Trance Master]

I love the map selection Option. it has been implemented in so many games, was about time to implement it in this game aswell.

The waiting times got soo much better aswell..

The only downside to it is just , the fact , that I can't really select of all gamemodes. Only two gamemodes are available at a time
But apart from that, I think it is a very nice feature....

[MountainCopper]

Half, on 03 November 2015 - 11:52 AM, said:

Thats just great! Cant see a selection screen ..... i always end up in random maps and random game modes......!

Idealsuspect, on 03 November 2015 - 12:06 PM, said:

Also you can't see others choose map and gamemode for you...I would prefer that than "have the power(illusion) to choose"

I believe that the game is currently (?) not designed to make the game-tab blink when you are tabbed-out. I also only saw the result of the vote when I returned to the game.
Meaning, that I have to stay in the game during the search to not miss the voting?

Edited by GoldenFleece, 04 November 2015 - 03:09 AM.

[Mikex88]

I like the map select option aswell...the only thing which would make it even better , is being able to choose a mech after you selected a map..like in CW. its like being back in the Army, you select your equipemnt according to the Mission you are playing... this would make this game a bit more realistic

[MountainCopper]

Trance Master, on 03 November 2015 - 12:28 PM, said:

I love the map selection Option. it has been implemented in so many games, was about time to implement it in this game aswell.

The waiting times got soo much better aswell..

The only downside to it is just , the fact , that I can't really select of all gamemodes. Only two gamemodes are available at a time
But apart from that, I think it is a very nice feature....

It's not when you don't get what you want most of the time. Then it's a journey from frustrated -> annoyed -> angry.

Players didn't accept it months ago when they first tried that, and they won't now if I'm any judge.

[eXhum116th]

Clans join with 12 men on server, vote for the coldest map, and the other team die.

Its is bad for players with is mechs, nobody (clan mechs) like hot maps, for is mechs is that ok.

and plz balancing the team join system, is not ok, to fight vs 12 men.

[Gerwig]

Voting on map selection I can see(but disagree with), game mode is just wrong. A better option would be a vote to skip and if you get 7/12 votes can skip selected map.

[Pz_DC]

Dear devs! Thats a lot of that voting system - it was a realy long time since it was 1st offered here, on forums, to its reliase/ BUT. As it is its a fail - wait 2 min to get 15 sec voting? I've got no time to realise wtf we are going to vote! Some maps are dead now. All gamemodes except stat stupid srirmish are dead now. Voting system going to be 2nd "good idea with terrible realisation" - 1st was that PSR. Sad to see.

P.S. Im still ike what are You doing and i keep hope that this game someday will be a shiny brilliant. That day will be when gamebalance will be made around stock mech loadouts and CW but not around that maddnes in all-random-games.

[xDeviant 1x]

Don't post on the forums much for reasons. But, the fact you implemented such system like this into your game? Sorry had to worst idea you can come with PGI. You had to have known at the fact people where gonna avoid your hot maps and avoid your games modes right? Just saying.

[Repasy Cooper]

This feature has to go.

It's a shame. I really like it, but it's immediately led to the worst laser boat meta I have ever seen bc everybody keeps choosing the cold maps. I don't see the point in having a choice over the map when I never get to play anything other than frozen colony and alpine peak. Really too bad. I think giving people these choices were great, but since the majority of people are meta-tards they will just abuse this new power to pull the game in a direction I'm sure was unintended for the developers, and most certainly is not healthy for the game.

At the VERY LEAST limit the options to two random maps, at least that way the odds of getting a cold map are lower...

Edited by Repasy, 03 November 2015 - 02:36 PM.

[Donegal]

You noticed that too? Laser-boats rejoice! Never fight on a hot map again!

[Ragnahawk]

I hate this new option. Good freaking job. Now we will never get to play maps like Tourmaline Desert or Terra Therma.

Kill the patch. Burn it alive!

Edited by F8Sealed, 03 November 2015 - 03:59 PM.

[BMR1580]

Wouldn't it be fun to set up a 12 man, low heat team; like all AC/5s and Gauss rifles, then keep voting for the hottest map available?

Yeah, this idea is just gonna open up more areas for large groups to exploit. Just like dropping the 3-3-3-3 rule did.

[DemonRaziel]

I don't mind the map select option. It was random before, now it's semi-random so no loss there.

The mode select option sucks balls, though. You vere able to chose the mode(s) you liked, and the choice was now taken away from you.

I have played 5 games so far with all 5 being skirmishes. That was the only mode I had ticked off beforehand.

I didn't even get to vote on the mode most of the time. Before I could check the maps and make a decision, the voting was over and I never got to the mode selection.

Contrary to the OP, I don't see a reason to thank for taking away a choice from your players and forcing them to a game mode they don't like to play... Especially when instad of it being random (33% chance), it now seems to be the norm for all my games (albeit on a small sample so far).

A cold map skirmish is the name of the game over and over again and based on the in game chat, it's the case for more players, not just for me.

[Lt Badger]

i remember, over a year ago the game modes were randomized for a short time and after a lot of shitstorm we got the choice whitch mode we want to play, everyone could play what he wanted

why do PGI the same now?

i don´t want to let 23 people to choose which mode i should play as well as i don´t want to let some people to choose which movie i should see on tv

i don´t want to be forced to play a mode i don´t want to play!

so... what should i do? disconect? not good because of penalty
running to death or power down and wait? many people will do that i think.


map vote? the coldest wins for sure, bye terra therma, bye caustic valley, we need more new maps below 0 degrees

[pyrocomp]

The map and mode selection is abused a little now, but this can be addressed without removing the feature completely.

Change, for instance, the probability of the map according to how often it was chosen. E.g. make the probability for the map to show up back proportional to its popularity (literally 1/(_times_played_+1) normalized on 1 over all maps). This can be done hourly or, if the players population is as high as it's claimed, each 15 or 5 minutes during peak hours.

This is a serverside option and does not require any server pause, virtually unseen by the players and so on. Still gives the players The Choice, but helps againt the abuse (and now you have info which maps are... well, unfavored for various reasons).

For modes selection process it's harder, but still is possible, would be better if there will be more game modes (might be a good idea to start thinking on that, the threads with this request are as old as this forum is).

[ScreamingSkull]

Bumping cause Donegal :^) I like being able to choose brawlers without being stuck on Alpine, but the overplay of Frozen City is getting a tad annoying.