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#21 Foolskrow

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Posted 07 November 2015 - 09:02 AM

I agree, current voting system has taken the fun out of the game for me. I recommend folks continue to express their opinion here and on the MechWarrior Online Facebook page.

https://www.facebook...rriorOnline/?nr

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Posted 07 November 2015 - 09:26 AM

Really. Game giving you a tiny sliver of control over your experience has killed the fun for all of you. Really.

I think the authoritarian lodge is that way, see, there are EA and Sony logos over there. Go there, they will take all your volition and make all the decisions for you. Don't forget to leave your independence when passing Activision stand.

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Posted 07 November 2015 - 10:07 AM

Yes it has. I dont want to play conquest or assault. Loosing a game just because you get capped, no thanks. I want to loose because my team sucked at killing stuff. Thats my thing. Maps are meh for me, the game type is sucking the fun out of the game for me.
So, I will keep dc'ing those game types, and when I got to wait too long to play YOUR game again PGI, I just quit.
This is the dumbest idea ever.

#24 Commissar Aku

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Posted 07 November 2015 - 12:59 PM

View Postgloowa, on 07 November 2015 - 09:26 AM, said:

Really. Game giving you a tiny sliver of control over your experience has killed the fun for all of you. Really.

I think the authoritarian lodge is that way, see, there are EA and Sony logos over there. Go there, they will take all your volition and make all the decisions for you. Don't forget to leave your independence when passing Activision stand.

Actually they have the same as the old system, deselect modes and random maps, and it works really well. The only games that have ever had map voting either failed or replaced it with the only system that works, random maps and selecting the game modes you want.

Voting for maps would be fine if PGI catered to people other than the killer player type. As this is not the case we should be either demanding better rewards for not playing as the killer player type or go back to being able to deselect game modes. Another solution would be to add 4 or 5 more game types, if your only options weren't skirmish, assault or conquest there would be enough variety that players would see more than one game type during a play session. It gets tiresome when you vote conquest every time and play skirmish every time, 50 games of skirmish on only 2 different maps, the game gets old fast.

How about this you go play Sony and Activision games and bring all you CoD pieces with you and maybe the game will get better because all the ****** who only want to play high heat high alpha builds on cold maps with skirmish will be gone with you.

View Postjoker1974, on 07 November 2015 - 10:07 AM, said:

Yes it has. I dont want to play conquest or assault. Loosing a game just because you get capped, no thanks. I want to loose because my team sucked at killing stuff. Thats my thing. Maps are meh for me, the game type is sucking the fun out of the game for me.
So, I will keep dc'ing those game types, and when I got to wait too long to play YOUR game again PGI, I just quit.
This is the dumbest idea ever.

Go play Call of Duty if you don't want to play a tactical objective game, Mech Warrior is not CoD. If you want to play CoD with robots go play a different game, stop ruining this one.

Edited by Commissar Aku, 07 November 2015 - 12:57 PM.


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Posted 07 November 2015 - 04:34 PM

Gloowa,

It has nothing to with democracy. Games are supposed to be fun. If they are not fun people leave. Allowing voting makes players choose the easy path thus we play the same maps and the same games types over and over and this is simply not fun. It's very boring. For me, I like the varied maps. (There is an old saying "variety is the spice of life")

Personally I am happy to play any game type whether it be assault, conquest or skirmish BUT I can see how important this is to some players and If we take away this choice away from them then they will leave the game.

Maybe that's what you want, but I Don't...

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Posted 07 November 2015 - 06:28 PM

Variety is indeed the spice. While initially interesting I've quickly found the map selector screen to be just a disappointing shout-down taking the fun out of the coming match.

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Posted 07 November 2015 - 06:41 PM

These changes have already gotten old. I'm sick of playing the same 4 maps over and over. This is rapidly becoming the 1st time I've become sick of anything MW or BT related. I can handle the revamp on test, but this system makes you field loadouts that only work on those 4 maps. I like not knowing which environment I'm walking into. Load a full laser boat and get Mordor. Damn, have to adjust my play that round, etc... More and more META builds showing up b/c of this.

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Posted 07 November 2015 - 06:59 PM

View PostKali Rinpoche, on 07 November 2015 - 06:41 PM, said:

These changes have already gotten old. I'm sick of playing the same 4 maps over and over. This is rapidly becoming the 1st time I've become sick of anything MW or BT related. I can handle the revamp on test, but this system makes you field loadouts that only work on those 4 maps. I like not knowing which environment I'm walking into. Load a full laser boat and get Mordor. Damn, have to adjust my play that round, etc... More and more META builds showing up b/c of this.


well i wonder if anyone saw it coming before it even happened

http://mwomercs.com/...map-horrifying/

http://mwomercs.com/...gi-derping-time

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Posted 07 November 2015 - 07:31 PM

Re TR3venge's post, I like #3...make map choice and game type choice totally random and no choice. Under the old system I had all options ticked and I liked not knowing what was coming next. Now I know what's coming: Frozen City, HPG, or the Canyons, skirmish. Maybe Tourmaline. I haven't seen Forest Colony, Caustic Valley, or Terra Therma once since the patch.

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Posted 07 November 2015 - 07:36 PM

View Postgloowa, on 07 November 2015 - 09:26 AM, said:

Really. Game giving you a tiny sliver of control over your experience has killed the fun for all of you. Really.

I think the authoritarian lodge is that way, see, there are EA and Sony logos over there. Go there, they will take all your volition and make all the decisions for you. Don't forget to leave your independence when passing Activision stand.


The only people in control are the people who want to play nothing but skirmish mode on cold maps. The rest of us are forced to play the same match over and over. I dont mind skirmish or cold maps once in a while but jesus, let me also play assault and conquest too on ALL of the maps.

#31 Inkarnus

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Posted 07 November 2015 - 07:41 PM

well it seems PGI hit it on the nail with this picture fromthemselfs on the frontpage lol.
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#32 Brandarr Gunnarson

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Posted 07 November 2015 - 08:08 PM

In principle the voting system is good. But energy meta heavily favors cold maps, it's true.

I'm going to hope that after the rebalance they have the heat right and that won't be an issue (as there will be more ballistic and missile based 'Mechs... maybe... I hope... pray).

I do miss Veridian Bog. I play cool running 'Mechs, so I never shut down too much!

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Posted 07 November 2015 - 08:29 PM

Just had the funnest match in days. Terra Therma and Conquest. Seriously.

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Posted 07 November 2015 - 09:07 PM

View Postjoker1974, on 07 November 2015 - 10:07 AM, said:

Yes it has. I dont want to play conquest or assault. Loosing a game just because you get capped, no thanks. I want to loose because my team sucked at killing stuff. Thats my thing. Maps are meh for me, the game type is sucking the fun out of the game for me.
So, I will keep dc'ing those game types, and when I got to wait too long to play YOUR game again PGI, I just quit.
This is the dumbest idea ever.


you sir are a skirmish voter and make my skirmish hating skin crawl each time im forced to play in non CW <read: most of the time as CW starts matches with all the speed of stellar drift :( > but, I agree, the voting system is horrific as it forces me, a person who abhors skirmish to play it. it has no tactical value. If i want mindless killing I will reinstall battlefield 4 on my ps4 and play that. I want a reason to move away from the drop zone. as it stands now, skirmish = shut down override + spam firing of my lasers until self destruct.

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Posted 08 November 2015 - 03:37 AM

View PostCommissar Aku, on 06 November 2015 - 08:37 PM, said:

Well in conquest you get more C-Bills, and still people don't play it. Incentives clearly don't work, and apparently neither does voting, though with even the most basic amount of thinking would have told you the later would never work.

I personally don't see earning more c-bills in conquest at all.
If I focus on capping the whole game, I get far less money than focussing on killing the enemy.

I think the only good think about qonuest is, that the enemy is forced to move around the map, instead of camping in one spot.

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Posted 08 November 2015 - 07:38 AM

View PostMikex88, on 08 November 2015 - 03:37 AM, said:

I personally don't see earning more c-bills in conquest at all.
If I focus on capping the whole game, I get far less money than focussing on killing the enemy.

I think the only good think about conquest is, that the enemy is forced to move around the map, instead of camping in one spot.

Conquest base rewards are actually higher. On top of that because people are forced to move instead of camp there tends to be more lance fighting tactics, which is what drew die hard fans to played Battle Tech and Mech Warrior originally.

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Posted 08 November 2015 - 08:48 AM

"It has nothing to with democracy."

And people don't understand what an actual direct democracy means. The reason we don't have one in the US is deliberate - it would mean policy would be determined by only the most populous states. Our leaders would only pay attention to what California, New York and Texas want. So you're farmer in the Midwest concerned about agriculture? No one cares. Auto worker in Wisconsin concerned about labor unions? No one cares. There is a reason direct democracy is known as a Tyranny of the Majority.

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Posted 08 November 2015 - 09:42 AM

I think some of my most tense, stressful, dynamic, and balanced battles have been on conquest mode. I've always been a select any type, any map person. For the sake of just get in and play. But seriously, some of my favorite/best battles, won or lost. Were definitely conquest.

Now when I hear someone say that conquest mode is a dead mode, or that the game-mode is useless. I will just laugh to myself. It's a shame it doesn't get voted in more, but I'm fine. I'll get to shoot you all eventually.





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