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#1 Bonger Bob

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Posted 04 November 2015 - 06:55 PM

ok, i know some of you love it, some hate it, and most of you know now my feeling on it.....Forced match modes suck. Taking away a choice we all had before and boxing it up in a voting system IS NOT MORE CHOICE, ITS LESS. To each his own, and thats what we all lost with the latest patch.

So, in doing some further research and listening to the recent town hall meeting ( 3+ hrs of mostly "selected" questions being vaguely answered if at all by Russ ) the notable bit is at about the 2hr mark through to 2hrs 15 mins if you'd all like to have a listen to the relevant sound bite. (if someone can link the youtube / whatever thingy, im just an avid gamer, not a net nerd, that would be appreciated )

basically summed up, its due to declining player base causing issues for the match maker, and thus was done to ensure matches can be had. Now think for a moment, how low does the player base need to be for match maker to be broken to such a stage they needed to do this ???

Surely it would have to be at around 100 people or so playing in the public ques at any one time, helz even 100 people in the ques shouldn't be a problem, so is it potentially less than that ??? I, and im sure many others have played online games have many servers in many regions having a regional server that has a higher population than the entire base for MWO public ques.

Now further research into twitter etc, shows plainly that Russ is using the released game as a secondary PTS, at the expense of the already limited player base that's in decline. He has stated that he's happy to " let things sit for a week or so.." ( read his twitter feed ) on these and other issues, being plainly aware that he's upsetting people without remorse. I have to give it when i see it, this guy has titanium balz, and to be the devils advocate, he probably does cop a fair amount of **** too.

The convoluted ownership of the IP is probably preventing anyone with a brain going anywhere near this project that should have stayed in open beta, at least then Russ would have a semi-legitimate excuse for using the public released game as a PTS. PGI are looking for staff, notably a Customer Service Rep, could anyone here say they would take that job ??? no matter what it paid ???

But if this is the path he is going to continue with ( i did note when reading that he has a loooooooong history of treating the player base like this ), the player base will continue to decline even further if thats at all possible, or perhaps he's just working on the fact there is always some fool waiting to be parted from their money.

The following is an extract from an article by James Murff, on the gamefront site

" PGI promised a vision of Mechwarrior that led to the game’s funding through fans and founder’s packs, then changed its mind and failed to provide an explanation satisfactory to the majority of involved fans as to why it did so. The developer has stated it’s no longer concerned with pleasing existing fans — many of whom have dumped hundreds of dollars into Mechwarrior Online based on the promises PGI made them — and that its goal is to instead seek out new players.

Many players are comparing PGI’s practices to the infamous Star Wars Galaxies”new game enhancement“ fiasco, and others are saying they want Mechwarrior Online to die so that another developer, such as the Mechwarrior: Living Legends mod team, can grab the intellectual property rights and craft the game players want.

Mechwarrior Online’s road to launch is a cautionary consumer tale, fraught with anger and betrayal. It shows how a company can take a fan base dedicated to an old IP and completely alienate it through lack of communication, unpopular features, and oathbreaking. It shows how players need to be cautious of supporting a project based solely on the IP backing it.

Most depressingly, it shows how you can’t always trust a developer to keep its promises."

and this was back in 2013, August 30th .....

TL:DR

Which ever it is, the long story short, forced match modes are very likely here to stay unless there is a massive shift in attitudes from the few people making the decisions ( i was trying to be kind there but everything seems to point to the more likely 1 person pulling all the strings ). A declining player base mixed with a hostile attitude towards THEIR CUSTOMERS and a "i will do what i please" mood ever present, the game is destined for failure.

P.S - yesterday I lowered myself to a standard i didn't think possible, and started repeat burn grinding the forced match modes, for that i do sincerely apologize to all who experienced it, I hit boiling point and took it out on the fellow community players which is never acceptable.

I'll be attempting to fill my time for the next 4 days with some non-skirmish ( aka mindless deathball ) until Fallout 4 comes out, but i will still long for a thinking man shooter. Perhaps if MWO does finally die and the IP hasn't been too damaged by Russ, a decent Developer may pick it up and make the game we have all been longing for, delivered in a manner that is befitting of the title. I will actually enjoy uninstalling MWO knowing im not funding Russ's ego any further,

To all i wish farewell and good hunting.

edit note : typos removed, though there are likely more ;)

Edited by Bonger Bob, 04 November 2015 - 07:00 PM.


#2 Gamuray

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Posted 04 November 2015 - 07:27 PM

I mean, if you want to burn through the company money faster then play MORE but don't pay them a penny! That's what I do :huh: Of course, that's the more cynical way of me saying I treat it like the weak gameplay, good graphics, free to play game it is. And I have given up on trying to better this game.

I will admit though, the better solution to matchmaking would be the 4v4 in the test server instead of ripping choices from people. Those little 4v4's, although always a skirmish (you can't really whittle the opfor down like currently, where it stalls and capping then works) are the most fun (even when losing from the most intimidating, undying Atlas ever :wub: ) that I have ever had in this game. And the matching time is shorter than normal que, despite being pair with the same people almost constantly.

(This is more in agreement with you than against you in any way, figured I'd say that after my ramble)

#3 Bonger Bob

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Posted 04 November 2015 - 07:45 PM

edited to avoid causing "waves" ;)

ill do a post in 4 days with something special B)

Bonger Bob will live on.

Edited by Bonger Bob, 04 November 2015 - 10:01 PM.


#4 Triordinant

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Posted 04 November 2015 - 08:08 PM

The MWO playerbase will likely shrink further this month because of Fallout 4 in less than a week and Star Wars Battlefront 3 a week later. I'm worried it might force PGI to roll out the Steam release early even if the game isn't ready for prime time yet. Desperation might give them no other choice, though...

#5 El Bandito

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Posted 04 November 2015 - 08:39 PM

View PostGamuray, on 04 November 2015 - 07:27 PM, said:

I mean, if you want to burn through the company money faster then play MORE but don't pay them a penny! That's what I do :huh:


By playing more, you are supporting the company, BTW. ;) More people in queue, more satisfied the paying customers are.

#6 IG 88

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Posted 04 November 2015 - 08:39 PM

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Posted 04 November 2015 - 08:48 PM

View PostBonger Bob, on 04 November 2015 - 07:45 PM, said:

BTW, will be giving my account away in 4 days to who ever gives the best post to add to what ive put up there, hero mechs and premium time, clan mech etc.

Bonger Bob will live on.


I'm still having fun, so are the players in my unit. In fact, some have come back and we have better active numbers than we've had in a long time. I think many additions and changes for the better have happened in the past year and I'm liking where the product is going.

Do I win?

#8 Bonger Bob

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Posted 04 November 2015 - 08:52 PM

View PostIG 88, on 04 November 2015 - 08:39 PM, said:

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lol, so more ego fueled screw the customers styled management from PGI aka Russ, go for it, ban me please

seriously , please ban me, im already done with this :D

and if all you read from the entire post was that section, and feel the need to then post about that one line, i feel sorry for your limited existence.

if this is how they want to run things, it only reinforces whats been typed above, i would welcome PGI taking any action beyond trying fleece more money for this dead horse game.

and a quick scan of the forums shows about half of the threads everywhere have something that would breach that ruleset :D

so again, PLEASE BAN ME :D

Edited by Bonger Bob, 04 November 2015 - 09:02 PM.


#9 1Grimbane

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Posted 04 November 2015 - 08:54 PM

what is godwins law and why has it replaced some historical names i've tried typing?..and yes the whinehard players FOR SOME REASON tRY TO LIMIT OPTIONS AND TAKE THE FUN OUT OF THIS GAME....... STOP ASKING FOR LESS OPTIONS YOU FOOLS


nevermind just looked up godwins law.... pgi you censoring commies!

Edited by 1Grimbane, 04 November 2015 - 08:58 PM.


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Posted 04 November 2015 - 09:00 PM

View Post1Grimbane, on 04 November 2015 - 08:54 PM, said:

what is godwins law and why has it replaced some historical names i've tried typing?.


http://lmgtfy.com/?q...+is+godwins+law

#11 Narcissistic Martyr

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Posted 04 November 2015 - 09:49 PM

Without safeguards to protect the minority, the tyranny of the majority will strip them of everything they hold dear.

#12 Thorqemada

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Posted 04 November 2015 - 09:54 PM

Ist not even the Majority - atm it is only the dominant Minority that will become the Majority eventually.





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