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[InnerSphereNews]

ComStar News Bureau

Bulletin #00-20-C

Reward Adjustments to Factions effective immediately.

ComStar News Bureau Agents are confirming reports that changes to reward structure are being implemented by all the Factions.

Changes:

Faction	Change	C-Bill Amount	Loyalty Point Amount
Clan Wolf	Increased	200,000 C-Bills	75 Loyalty Points
Clan Smoke Jaguar	Increased	200,000 C-Bills	75 Loyalty Points
House Davion	Increased	200,000 C-Bills	75 Loyalty Points
House Kurita	Increased	200,000 C-Bills	75 Loyalty Points
House Liao	Increased	200,000 C-Bills	75 Loyalty Points
House Steiner	Increased	200,000 C-Bills	75 Loyalty Points
Free Rasalhague Republic	Increased	200,000 C-Bills	75 Loyalty Points
Clan Ghost Bear	Increased	200,000 C-Bills	75 Loyalty Points
House Marik	Increased	200,000 C-Bills	75 Loyalty Points
Clan Jade Falcon	Increased	200,000 C-Bills	75 Loyalty Points

[Juodas Varnas]

[codynyc]

Last night cw was a ghost town at least for steiner. Hopefully this will get some teams in.

[Polkastein]

And with premium time that will give you an additional 300k if you win. Very nice incentive!

But honestly, they should be adjusted based on the number of planets the faction has; the bigger the faction, the smaller the c-bill reward (i.e. Ghost Bear and FRR should have the highest contract payout at this time). That would give incentive to move populations to smaller factions until they start growing again.

[crustydog]

Started seeing a lot of warriors in the last 24 hours that we have not seen on the field in quite some time.

"Bonus money" sure seemed to entice some increased activity among the warriors we were trying to scrape up overnight.... we still had to go visiting all over to find them though... seems the word is not quite out there yet.

I can't speak for the others, but my own activity overnight was certainly most profitable $$$.

[stealthraccoon]

It's tough for me to play to more than 20 or 30 minutes at a time, but I may just have to hunker down and devote some time to CW; I have premium time to burn and I need some Cbills something awful

[crustydog]

Polkastein, on 05 November 2015 - 11:33 AM, said:

But honestly, they should be adjusted based on the number of planets the faction has; the bigger the faction, the smaller the c-bill reward (i.e. Ghost Bear and FRR should have the highest contract payout at this time). That would give incentive to move populations to smaller factions until they start growing again.

Before reading this post we were speculating that this might have been implemented already - As someone who has held the job of setting the faction choice for a unit in the past I can confirm that the faction money plays a substantial part in influencing the final decision.

Certainly an automated faction payout formula could be written that would adjust these amounts during each ceasefire. Might be interesting to try it for a while and see what happens.

[YaKillinMeSmalls]

Guys, you need to increase the base rewards, not the victory amount. All you're doing is giving even more reward to those who are already on top in CW. What you need to be doing is encouraging people to just jump in regardless of a win or loss.

[MovinTarget]

YaKillinMeSmalls, on 05 November 2015 - 12:00 PM, said:

Guys, you need to increase the base rewards, not the victory amount. All you're doing is giving even more reward to those who are already on top in CW. What you need to be doing is encouraging people to just jump in regardless of a win or loss.

This right here.

People on the losing side will kill themselves off as soon as things go south rather than waste 30 on meager earnings.

I would like to see incentives that while comparable to winning, would at least motivate people to make the best of a bad situation. Whether it's a "playing above your PSR" or simply top 4 performers of the losing team get some kind of consolation prize I dunno. But that might encourage good players to stick it out...

Maybe reserve these consolation prizes for solo droppers... heh, could make things interesting...

[Vellron2005]

I feel a CW related tournament comming on...

[Ironically Ironclad Irony]

I hope so... CW needs a kick in the pants

[Appogee]

I spent 7 hours today trying to play CW.

During that time I managed:
* entire hours where we couldn't muster a single team
* 4 ghost drops
* 3 actual matches- in which my team had 3 competent players + 9 derpers doing <500 damage apiece

My favourite match was the one where 3 of us with unit tags were tasked to counter attack against a 12-man. Sizing up the odds, I suggested perhaps we'd be better just sit outside the gate and try to score some damage, than push in and die. But one of PUGs railed against that idea, and said we'd win if "go in, kill Omega, and then retreat to the drop ships once we are in front".

So we lost the first wave 12-2 and the second 24-4, after which the enemy 12-man just wandered out the gate in their damaged Mechs and killed all the PUGs where they were hiding.

And at the end of the match, our master tactician had recorded a personal total of 128 damage in his 4 Mechs. (How is it even possible to do that little damage in 4 Mechs...?)

So: it will take a lot more than 200K CBills to make me waste any more time on CW, sadly.

Edited by Appogee, 05 November 2015 - 01:13 PM.

[Inveramsay]

Only a year late. It can hardly be a news flash that you make less space bucks playing CW and because of the awful grind most people will resort to whatever pays the best. Hence ghost town CW

[Sky Hawk]

Give us a nice big reward, if we win. Give us a small reward, if we lose, but fight.. And move about 48 Backshooting-Mechs from the Academy to Ghost Maps.. And CW will be not near-dead anymore...

[Aiden Skye]

Ghost bear could use a larger reward to attract more people. There are like no teams at all playing for Ghost bear.

[Idealsuspect]

W A R K H A N, on 05 November 2015 - 01:37 PM, said:

Ghost bear could use a larger reward to attract more people. There are like no teams at all playing for Ghost bear.

Yea of course if you want good CW population per faction balance..
Its same for marik and liao too since ages but it seem PGI don't wanna balance anything about factions population.

In fact now we can't really say that others factions are really populated yep CW is dead. One proof?
CW map didn't change since 2 months only FRR territory is moving cause some bigs unit took a contract 2 week ago, followed by some smallers units ( little fishs follow big one ).

PGI by not ajusting reward ajustement every week let this situation stagnate ( last reward ajustement ( every faction get same reward ) was after last CW event and the other last one was like 3 months ago this event and each time rewards ajustement were bad balanced anyway...)

[Kriri]

Honestly.....i dont want a reward for losing.
That feels false somehow.

I stay away from CW mostly because (not everytime but in most cases) it is demotivating to get ROFLstomped (from a competition unit) after waiting 15min to get a match and then additional 10min till the last team member is dead.

[Ironically Ironclad Irony]

Well, I am not advocating a reward for losing but a reason to actually try when you are getting roflstomped. There is actually a difference...

[Sinsabul]

I dropped 5 matches 2 nights ago with mostly non-unit guys and we won every match, even one against a 12 man. My own unit was dropping 8-12 man groups (I just wasn't with them that night) as well. Granted, I know it doesn't always work out like that, especially not in IS. It's not due to mech balance at all either but actual player balance. I have 2 accounts and my IS account is poor compared to my clan account and some of the mechs aren't elite and none have modules yet I do just as well in them as I do my clan mechs given the current perks and nerfs. However, I notice a lot more inexperienced pugs drop for IS which increases the likelihood of a crappy team. I attribute this to the higher price of clan mechs increasing the likelihood of less experienced players who come try CW actually being IS. I will also concede how frustrating it is to lose every match as I've had my share of nights like that. I recommend people who come to CW join a group (with a common TS) or unit. I know units aren't for everyone, but you can also go in the "looking for group" channel. I say this for 2 reasons. 1: you're more likely to drop fast in a group. 2: you're more likely to win in a coordinated group. I've seen completely mixed groups kick butt when all on the Kurita, Comstar, or Strana Mechty servers. CW can work and support a decent population if people have a better understanding of how it should be played going in. Perhaps a CW tutorial?

[Cranky Puppy]

yay money is a good thing.

Now back to work on UNIT COFFERS for in game use....

and also work on a 16 weapon Atlas is also a good thing.