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[MechaBattler]

I hope they introduce an even more convoluted mechanic. Or just eff it. Just take lasers from the game entirely. Can't have nice things around.

[Agent 0 Fortune]

They canned it because it was too complicated.
Next iteration will be all lasers 50% range, or all lasers 200% beam duration, or both.

[DAYLEET]

So whats the other option to balance the Clans?

[FupDup]

DAYLEET, on 06 November 2015 - 06:52 PM, said:

So whats the other option to balance the Clans?

Ghost Damage/Range hurt IS lasers just as much as Clan ones.

For Clams, there are still things like the XL, ERML, and LPL to deal with.

[DAYLEET]

FupDup, on 06 November 2015 - 06:53 PM, said:

hurt IS lasers just as much as Clan ones.

except in practice it didnt. That was my experience. Maybe it was just that my opposition was of the baddie kind and never locked to begin with.

Edited by DAYLEET, 06 November 2015 - 06:57 PM.

[adamts01]

This is awesome. Like some others said, this would have really hurt some already under performing mechs. The sensor range thing sounds very interesting and I LOVE the ECM nerf. I'm waiting on playing and buying more packages till this patch is out. Is there a scheduled launch date for it?

[Gas Guzzler]

FupDup, on 06 November 2015 - 05:37 PM, said:

But listening to the wrong parts...

...until now.

[Y E O N N E]

Mister D, on 06 November 2015 - 05:10 PM, said:

SWEET.
Now they have to bring in a good alternative.

Which means start having a conversation about either Heatcap changes, laser heat and balance in general.

or the dreaded C word.

Convergence.

Even something as simple as having fixed-forward, non-converging weapons when no target is locked with a larger cross-hair indicating maximum radius of weapon position from center to indicate that would be pretty awesome I think. If you figure out your weapon strike points within the reticle, you can still make the shot, you just can't necessarily group them into one giant death ray.

[SirNotlag]

AWWWWW!

I thought with a bit of work it would have actually added to the game, by nerfing lasers and increasing info warfares usability.

AWWWWW!

I thought with a bit of work it would have actually added to the game, by nerfing lasers and increasing info warfares usability.

[Triordinant]

DAYLEET, on 06 November 2015 - 06:52 PM, said:

So whats the other option to balance the Clans?

Whatever the option is, they should make the public queues Clan vs Clan and IS vs IS in the meantime until they come up with one. They could do it in a day.

[DAYLEET]

The Laser Lock meltdown was never as big as the voting metdown and it gets totaly removed? what gives? i need advice.

[Ultimax]

Good, it was a terrible idea.

[Bishop Steiner]

DAYLEET, on 06 November 2015 - 07:10 PM, said:

The Laser Lock meltdown was never as big as the voting metdown and it gets totaly removed? what gives? i need advice.

actually it was.... and unlike voting, it had very few supporters, on twitter or the forums, whereas quite a few people have told russ they liked the voting.


I think the voting could be fine, but they need incentive multipliers to give people reasons to play the harsher maps, at least until they can be reworked. (though Caustic can we just have the old one back?)

[Deathlike]

Bishop Steiner, on 06 November 2015 - 07:17 PM, said:

actually it was.... and unlike voting, it had very few supporters, on twitter or the forums, whereas quite a few people have told russ they liked the voting.

I'm on the "don't care" bandwagon with regards to map voting.

It's an indirect incentive to not ever pick Terra Therma ever again.

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I think the voting could be fine, but they need incentive multipliers to give people reasons to play the harsher maps, at least until they can be reworked. (though Caustic can we just have the old one back?)

Sulfurous Rock Caldera is here to stay... with "pebbles of steel" and all.

Edited by Deathlike, 06 November 2015 - 07:21 PM.

[DAYLEET]

Bishop Steiner, on 06 November 2015 - 07:17 PM, said:

, but they need incentive multipliers to give people reasons to play the harsher maps, at least until they can be reworked. (though Caustic can we just have the old one back?)

Maybe these people should play another game if they need incentive to play different map. Now im the one whos supposed to find another game because 75% of the content has been taken away by those people who need incentive.

[Y E O N N E]

I haven't played the live servers since last week, so I have no idea how voting works. Sounds like even a simple reduction in map-choice on the voting screen would solve the variety problem without killing player choice entirely.

[pbiggz]

rejoice!

[WarHippy]

First good news I have seen coming from them in awhile now. Just isn't enough at this point. I still don't care for the way they are doing the sensors, and with the current status of the live servers I can't bring myself to give a crap about this change even though it is good.

[WarZ]

The lockon mechanic being scrapped is good news.

However, I am totally fine if they want to adjust ranges on the lasers, to try and accomplish what the mechanic intended.

IMO, straight out tweaking of the ranges would have been the place to start.

[MischiefSC]

FupDup, on 06 November 2015 - 05:37 PM, said:

But listening to the wrong parts...

Depends who you ask, doesn't it? I'm hopeful we get some other approach to IW but my suspicion now is they'll just shelve it, we'll get some simple stat tweaks, the game will be exactly as it is now with a small shift in meta. Nothing changes, this game as it is pretty much is all it'll ever be.

So.... success? Hurrah? They've made it clear they're not doing convergence. We get a screaming suicide fit over voting on maps and damage falloff on locks but, of course, reducing range at a flat rate (so just a flat damage fall off. Exact same effect just something 100% predictable) is a good thing?

I would enjoy IW. Not everyone would. That's cool and all, just unfortunate to see the idea go.