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[sycocys]

Khobai, on 06 November 2015 - 09:27 PM, said:

i stopped foolishly spending money on this game when it became apparent PGI was utterly incapable of core game balancing.

So sometime in closed beta?

[xWiredx]

I've got about $1000 into MWO over the course of 3 1/4 years.

I buy 1-3 Xbox One games/year, but I haven't paid for Xbox Live Gold yet. I did buy a really nice controller, though.

I drop probably $100 or so in gift games on Steam during Steam sales each year. Maybe an extra $60 on myself.

Not bad, I guess.

[Lightfoot]

I mostly play the free games now. But I bought everything MWO put out until they added the Gauss charge-up and since then very little except the Mad Cat clan pack.

[Prussian Havoc]

Kraftwerkedup, on 06 November 2015 - 09:17 PM, said:

Thats just crazy....

You might as well have just lit that money on fire. I promise you ive gotten as many mechs as you and had just as much fun and never spent a dime.

Its your money, but ... damn that just blows my mind. I guess if its "your hobby" then its worth it, ive surely dumped that much money into things I enjoy, just not a Free to Play video game. Im not knocking anyone, its just completely out of my realm of understanding.

You are quite welcome!

If it had not been for the gamers that paid for this F2P game, MWO would have been stillborn.

So you are quite welcome for my small effort in funding a game I trust we ALL thoroughly enjoy!

[JeepStuff]

Kraftwerkedup, on 06 November 2015 - 09:17 PM, said:

Thats just crazy....

You might as well have just lit that money on fire. I promise you ive gotten as many mechs as you and had just as much fun and never spent a dime.

Kraftwerkedup, on 06 November 2015 - 09:20 PM, said:

Like if I could go shooting for free, but I just had to shoot guns more often than someone else to shoot the really cool guns, I think id say someone paying to shoot the cool guns immediately, is a fool.

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If youre absolutely filthy rich, it makes sense...otherwise...why wouldnt you take the slower route thats free, if youre going to spend the exact amount of time doing the "thing" anyways.

Ive been playing since just after CB...havent spent any money,

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But yeah...never bought anything, went from 4 mech bays to 28. I dont see why anyone would spend money unless youre really rich, and you hate waiting.

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I do appreciate you whales keepin their lights on however.

I totally get where you're coming from if you're saying "you guys spent too much" -- that's an easy argument to make. Maybe we're stupid. To each their own. But it seems like there's a whole lot of "I got something for nothing and you're all idiots for not being a big freeloader like me" in this post.

Yowza.

You're welcome I guess.

[Narcissistic Martyr]

Between a new high end PC every 3 years (I do use the GPU power for productive stuff too but mostly games tbh) and games... I'm probably at about $1-2k a year.

Which is by far my cheapest hobby.

I mean I like old cars and motorcycles and I can easily spend $20k or $30k a year on those.

Some people have kids, or pets, I prefer machines. About the same annual cost and I'd be an awful (but really fun) parent anyways.

[Xetelian]

I've bought mid level in most of the packages but not the initial clan invasion because none of the mechs under $100 appealed to me and I wasn't going to spend 120$ just to get my DWF or 55$ alacarte because that didn't come with any of the pre-order goodies and is way too much for 3 mechs even with a cBill bonus variant.

[patataman]

I did some maths last month, over the 3 years i've been playing MWO (since sep 2012), i did spend a total of $355, counting mech packs and MC purchases (with the Marauder Collector pack + BH being the last purchase, i've been thinking about asking for a refund with the last changes to the game, but i think i will keep it because Marauder).

So, roughly $120 each year. I tried to limit my spending as if it were a suscription model since very early. But i didn't get any clan mechs, partially because i'm an IS loyalist, and partially because of the clan pricing. I don't regret the money spent, i had lots of fun playing. That said, this 3 years felt like a constant wait for improvements/development, and i think that, for now, i'm done spending money.

Other games... i don't know, i guess about €100 ? each year. This year it was KSP, Space Engineers and BT kickstarter.

[JediPanther]

I could have probably got two gold mechs by now. I've bought top tier founders, third highest phoenix, what ever hero mech gets my attention and isn't an assault because I suck with assault, and I bought the clan jenner. I like the reseen heroes but really don't want to buy the package deals. I'd rather have the option to buy the lone hero and c-bill the other two variants. As much as I want the rifle man hero it's out of budget with x-mas coming up.

I spend a lot on steam sales with 35 games there so far and gog every now and then with about 20 games there. My last big spending on a game was using a $50 gift card to get metal gear 5 phantom pain for about $18. MWO has steadily losing my attention with the map voting and constant buy-new-mech-now they seem to be pushing the past few weeks. I still get the urge to log in and run crazy builds down in T5 so its all good for me. People still nerd rage hard over the catapult lrm-ing and 4ml-ing them to death. As long as my C1 remains combat capable able to hold its own I'll keep playing.

[Mister Blastman]

I spend about a hundred bucks. I have so many old games and whatever else I want to buy I get on Steam when they go on sale for five or ten bucks each and stockpile them for later. I don't mind waiting a couple years to play something. I may buy one full priced game a year (sixty bucks maximum). Money is tight in our house. I have to use it wisely.

[zagibu]

Steam deals and patience have cut down my expenses tremendously. I used to play the newest games on day 1, and paid full price for them, but the older I got, the harder it is to keep up. Nowadays I play games from 2 years back, which can usually be grabbed for 75% off in some kind of deal. So I guess it used to be around $1000 a year, and now it's maybe $200 - $300.

I haven't spent a lot on MWO, some MC for mechbays and colors. After the release of the CN9-AH I was tempted to get the hero Cent, but I could resist the urge.

[Triordinant]

$2,000 a year on games? Seriously?

[Xoco]

About 200USD a year (in truth it's more like 500 on my upgrade year, and about 30-50 on other years), I'd say. That includes buying the consoles and my PC upgrading (which to be fair, is also for work and my degree). I don't buy that many games. I usually end up playing RPGs that lasts well into 100+ hours, or multiplayer games that I end up just playing over and over (like MWO, TF2, CS:GO, Borderlands)

[FlipOver]

Get ready for a wall of text that might even show you have spent more cash than you think you did.

Not talking about the extra hours of electric bills or not even talking of how much your time is worth (something most people take for granted). No, I'm just going to talk about someone who spent (injected) around 14USD on this game.

Yes, that's correct. I've spent exactly the amount for 2 smaller MC packs.

Now, before I did that, let me start from the beginning.

Up until early OB, I've never heard of MW before.
A friend called me into this game saying it would be a lot of fun and he was right.
Prior to this, I only spent time playing some arcadish games and wondered about a good sim game to try my hands on. This was it (at first).

Because of my playing habits, my computer was a toaster. I mean, an absolutely and utterly bad computer as I will show below:
Dual Core E6500
3GB DDR2 @ 566 (or something like this)
GPU so old I only remember having 500MB memory

I tried to play this game back then with a user.cfg file so changed, the graphics were almost as non-existent and even so I only managed to get between 7 and 12 FPS.
I actually managed to play the game for a long period, seen that everything else I usually ran on that computer worked just fine, but MWO.

So one day I decided to invest on a decent computer and burned through roughly 1000-1500USD. And I only did it because I wanted to play MWO like "everyone should"... smoothly and with some good graphics.

I understand we are talking about money injected into the game, and for all intents and purposes, I spent less than 15USD since OB started.

Now, to me, I've spent 1k-1.5k I would otherwise not spent (or had spent less) if it was any other game out there that needed me to upgrade my toaster (would probably upgrade and not buy a whole new computer).

Many in my unit asked why wasn't I buying stuff on MWO, my answer was (and still is):
I'm working for free for the Game Makers, by beta-testing their work.
Won't pay for anything while I feel it's a game still needing me to beta-test for free.

Some said, the game was not beta anymore, so I should buy stuff if I wanted to, and I replied:
Because it has not Beta tag anymore doesn't mean it's a full game, much less a simulator (by that time, 3PV hit) and since then the arcarde feel has been stronger while the simulation feel has diminished.

You might say that today it's how things work, someone releases a game and people pay for stuff (we are talking about pixelized items here) even if that game is still under construction.
Well, I don't agree with that vision as people forget that they are working for the Game Producer for free.

Now, to tell you the truth, there were some things I wished I would have bought, for the fun of it.
But now I'm happy I didn't as I see this game heading towards a kind of mix between sim and arcade, where the sim part is smaller and smaller.

Edit - The 2 small MC packs I purchased were my way of saying I was believing in PGI's work at that time, but still felt there was a lot more to be done before considering buying any more expensive stuff.

I do not criticize those who bought stuff, I do not criticize those who didn't buy anything.

This is just how I see things and I'm sad PGI is showing me how right I've been until now.

TL;DR - Spent a little less than 15USD on games stuff and 1k-1.5k on hardware for the game specifically. Glad I didn't spend anything more on the game itself, seeing how things have turned out to be.
But I'm still here, waiting and wishing for things to turn out better... hope is still alive... not healthy, but alive.

Edited by FlipOver, 07 November 2015 - 07:16 AM.

[jss78]

Triordinant, on 07 November 2015 - 05:47 AM, said:

$2,000 a year on games? Seriously?

I don't quite understand it myself. But that said video games are a pretty damn cheap hobby, if you compare to just about anything else -- other than going for a walk, or reading library books. In terms of $/hr especially good videogames (with lots of replay value) are a bargain.

[LORD ORION]

Bonger Bob, on 06 November 2015 - 05:29 PM, said:

so i did some math and worked out how much i spend on games each year, for the last 10 years.

it is myself and my wife, my kiddies play cheap tablet / console games, and i do try to restrain myself to some degree, but yeah, i spend about 2k a year on my addiction. and thats a conservative figure. I don't even want to think about how much of it was on MW:O......

so how much do you all spend on games roughly each year ???

Note for PGI : this is all money you will miss out on, now and for the future

You're an enabler Bob... so you are part of the problem of scumbag dev teams runing the gaming community.

[MaximusPayne]

Return on investment for money spent on games is relative to the player, and no one should judge others for the amount that is spent on entertainment. I'd had a friend shake his head at me when I told him I spent $15 a month for WoW but yet he spends well over $200 a month to chase a little white ball over 100 acres. I am still amazed by the amount of players that drop hundreds of dollars on mech packs every time they're released. But hey, if they feel they're getting their money's worth, who am I to judge? I personally would rather drop $50 for 3 varients of each weight class and then pay for future expansion packs. I feel the devs should be getting paid for the work they do but the game just isn't worth dropping a couple c-notes a month for it to me. Hell, no game is worth that. But I'm old school and the gaming market has changed over the last decade. There is a reason why the Candy Crush franchise sold for more than the Star Wars franchise. Gamers spend more money on microtransactions in f2p games than they did on over-the-counter games, and both producer and consumer are happy with this arrangement.

[Durant Carlyle]

Let's see...

3+ years MWO -- around $2,100
EVE Online subscription since 2008 -- $10 a month (I've been using in-game money to PLEX so the last 2 or 3 years have been free)
Star Citizen -- around $1,800
Descent: Underground -- $754
EVERSPACE -- $275
BATTLETECH -- $450
Steam games -- probably around $250 total

I have gotten more than my money's worth out of MWO, EVE, and the Steam games. Assuming the other games are actually released, they will give me hundreds of hours of enjoyment as well. No regrets on the expenditure. And I will play both MWO and BATTLETECH -- they will each give a very different experience.

Edited by Durant Carlyle, 07 November 2015 - 09:23 AM.

[Bonger Bob]

LORD ORION, on 07 November 2015 - 07:37 AM, said:

You're an enabler Bob... so you are part of the problem of scumbag dev teams runing the gaming community.

lol, i know, its just sad, so very sad.......

i have health issues keeping me housebound, and 4 kiddies.....so any social interaction with anyone of adult age is my real addiction.

so i would regard it more as being a victim rather than the enabler, or thats the lie i keep telling myself...

[oldradagast]

EJT, on 06 November 2015 - 10:33 PM, said:

I totally get where you're coming from if you're saying "you guys spent too much" -- that's an easy argument to make. Maybe we're stupid. To each their own. But it seems like there's a whole lot of "I got something for nothing and you're all idiots for not being a big freeloader like me" in this post.

Yowza.

You're welcome I guess.

Sadly, a lot of people these days expect something for nothing and think paying people for their work is for "suckers."

You see it all the time... free to play video games are one thing, but then you go on to the clowns who "like playing" something like a tabletop RPG, and then download ripped PDF's of the books and never give a dime to the company that creates the game they enjoy. It's selfish, stupid, and sad, really.

Sure, MWO is free to play, but it's a laugh that people think they are somehow "clever" by freeloading. Ah, well - as usual, things only get done thanks to people who not only do work but who are willing to pay others for their efforts, proud freeloaders aside.

As for me, about ~$80 is the answer, approximately, for how much I've spent. About as much as one would spend for a AAA title and 1 expansion pack, which seems fair to me.

Edited by oldradagast, 08 November 2015 - 05:40 PM.