Aeryk Corsaer, on 10 July 2012 - 08:55 AM, said:
I was responding to a fellow forumite on another post I made regarding my command Atlas and there was speculation on how and what we can replace existing weapons. The MechLab video, wherever weapon hardpoints were available, was represented by the number 3 with the amount not used to the left of the slash. When the AC20 is removed, the number becomes 3 out of 3. The AC5 is put on, it drops to 2 of 3 again. Later, a Machine Gun drops it to 1 of 3. So a half-ton Machine Gun and a fourteen ton AC20 take up the same hardpoint allotment.
In that video what you saw was this:
Hard point : AC20 equipped <---swapped to---> AC5
Hard point : (nothing) <---swapped to---> Machine Gun
Hard point : (nothing) <---swapped to---> Machine Gun
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I just consider it a restriction on the capabilities of the targeting computer. It can handle coordinating so many weapon systems regardless of how big they are in actuality. You could also argue that the targeting computer is designed to follow a certain parameter in combining firepower, in the Hunchback for example, with ballistic fire from the right torso and flexible energy mounts in each arm and secondary mounts in the center torso.
Nothing to do with targeting computers or other equipment. It is a system created by Piranha to help balance the game by limiting boating and making all chassis useful. Without hard points, I'm going to strip an atlas, and put 1 medium or 1 small laser onto every single critical location I have. Or better yet, do the same with a jenner. Now I move something like 120 KpH while shooting 20 Medium lasers. Hard points prevent this and make every chassis useful besides the largest light mech.
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The center torso energy mount is where the title of this thread came from. In the MechLab video, it shows 3 hardpoints (energy) available in the Center Torso even though there are only 2 critical spaces. Notwithstanding alternate rules or configurations, this is not possible normally. Just an oversight in an early build is my assumption - maybe the default hardpoints was set at three. This still does not explain why the small laser is in the center torso and not the head. The head should show one energy hardpoint but this could have been fixed long ago.
Unfinished game is unfinished. That video is old and out of date. At least I would hope so. If values haven't changed, or shifted to proper locations by now, then Piranha is moving as a snails pace for development.
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Many of you knew this anyway but just wanted to put (maybe another...
) this thread in defining this because on my Command Atlas (using the Founder Atlas) I put an ER Large Laser on each arm. Even if there is only one energy hardpoint on each arm, this should be a safe bet. As is replacing the LRM with a second SRM system. Am I correct in my understanding of hardpoints??? Critical space looks like it is unchanged from the TT; I have been designing/reconfiguring BattleMechs since 1985.
I saw your thread earlier and don't see why it would be in violation of anything in the mechlab. Based on what we have seen of the mechlab your swapping of large lasers should be fine along with most of your other proposed changes. As for your addition of ECM, BAP, and a few other small things, it's probably a strong maybe. If you could do it in
http://remlab.source...mlab30/mech.lab I'd imagine something very close to what you proposed should be in MWO. That is of course as long as Piranha is following as close to TT rules as possible (adjusting values for balance issues of course) as they have said they are.
Edited by Minsc, 10 July 2012 - 09:10 AM.
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If that was not there, a reroll would have done something nasty up to a cockpit hit. Later lost mech to an SRM to the head, oh well.
