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[Leopardo]

1 bad cooling - okay give some omies heatbuff
2 bad ecm - now its not ecm at all i dont see a pint of that ecm using - even streaks kill me very fast
3 bad legs - you give all mechs structure and armor buffs so why spider atc have +15 and cheetah NOT. give speed then!
4 bad sensors guys its just less then FS have . also guys if its not info light give a structure.
5 bad speed - as i see it - you take away all from cheetah - then give it some speed more like spider have
rotating, yav, reverse...atc...

you destroy spiders, anasi is real trash and nobody plays it....

guys stop destroying this good mech!!!!!!!! its real wasted now!!!

PS i never complain about - why we have OP mechs in game....i jast take it as a part of game -
okay you nerf it - but why you nerf it to dead!!!!! mechs never be the equal!!!!

Edited by Leopardo, 19 November 2015 - 04:49 PM.

[Carchemish]

You have to be kidding me. On the live servers, the Cheetah is the best light mech on the field, bar none. With these changes, it is still a top-tier mech (arguably still #1). To address each of your points...

- Cooling: Sure we can't alpha as often with the heat cap nerf, but we do cool down faster now. I'm fine with that.
- ECM: No other piece of equipment gives as much for such minimal tonnage. Its too damn strong, and needs the nerf.
- Legs: ACH is a 30 ton mech, it shouldn't have the same leg structure as a Firestarter.
- Sensors: Firestarter may get similar nerfs to its sensors. Brawlers don't' need long sensors. ACH can be made into a scout with better sensors, but not as good as a Raven or Locust. This is a good thing.
- Speed: Its one of the fastest mechs on the field!! What are you talkiing about?? Don't forget its jumping power too...better than almost all others.

In no way, shape, or form is the Cheetah "wasted" with these changes. It is being brought down to a reasonable place for a light brawler. At least we can now play other lights without fear of hamstringing our team.

[Nevermore223]

Carchemish, on 18 November 2015 - 02:21 PM, said:

You have to be kidding me. On the live servers, the Cheetah is the best light mech on the field, bar none. With these changes, it is still a top-tier mech (arguably still #1). To address each of your points...

- Cooling: Sure we can't alpha as often with the heat cap nerf, but we do cool down faster now. I'm fine with that.
- ECM: No other piece of equipment gives as much for such minimal tonnage. Its too damn strong, and needs the nerf.
- Legs: ACH is a 30 ton mech, it shouldn't have the same leg structure as a Firestarter.
- Sensors: Firestarter may get similar nerfs to its sensors. Brawlers don't' need long sensors. ACH can be made into a scout with better sensors, but not as good as a Raven or Locust. This is a good thing.
- Speed: Its one of the fastest mechs on the field!! What are you talkiing about?? Don't forget its jumping power too...better than almost all others.

In no way, shape, or form is the Cheetah "wasted" with these changes. It is being brought down to a reasonable place for a light brawler. At least we can now play other lights without fear of hamstringing our team.

AGREED!...a lance of these things in a match is still a holy terror!

[Darian DelFord]

Yes, now these things can actually be legged. the structure quirks to them were insane for a 30 ton mech.

[Leopardo]

THIS IS PTS!!!!!!!!!
ON LIVE SERVER? THIS IS NOT LIVE SO LEAVE YOU COMMENTS AND WHINE FOR LIVE SERVER!!!
actually all you say is true only for live!!!!!! try to play it on PTS and then say that
ALL OF YOU - NOT PLAYS CHEETAH AND NOT PLAYED IT ON PTS!

A LANCE OF FIRE STARTERS CAN DO THE SAME AND HOUNDs TOO!

NOW EVERYBODY HAPPY EVERY MECH HAS STRUCTURE BUFF!!!!! BUT NOT CHEETAH!

Edited by Leopardo, 18 November 2015 - 10:16 PM.

[Leopardo]

Carchemish, on 18 November 2015 - 02:21 PM, said:

You have to be kidding me. On the live servers, the Cheetah is the best light mech on the field, bar none. With these changes, it is still a top-tier mech (arguably still #1). To address each of your points...

- Cooling: Sure we can't alpha as often with the heat cap nerf, but we do cool down faster now. I'm fine with that.
- ECM: No other piece of equipment gives as much for such minimal tonnage. Its too damn strong, and needs the nerf.
- Legs: ACH is a 30 ton mech, it shouldn't have the same leg structure as a Firestarter.
- Sensors: Firestarter may get similar nerfs to its sensors. Brawlers don't' need long sensors. ACH can be made into a scout with better sensors, but not as good as a Raven or Locust. This is a good thing.
- Speed: Its one of the fastest mechs on the field!! What are you talkiing about?? Don't forget its jumping power too...better than almost all others.

In no way, shape, or form is the Cheetah "wasted" with these changes. It is being brought down to a reasonable place for a light brawler. At least we can now play other lights without fear of hamstringing our team.

go play chetah on PTS and try to show you face to enemie!!!!!!!!give a shot! go try it!! oh if you dont play on PTS so say nothing - all you says is true to LIVE....yes its good light - not better then hugin and FS....!!!!

[Weeny Machine]

Cheetah is still way stronger than most mechs. If you think it is bad look how PGI violated the Huginn. It went from a very good mech to absolute trash.
As Carchemish said: you can alpha less often but you cool down faster. Which isn't that bad and on some maps even an advantage.

Because someone mentioned streaks...with the streak buffs and the nerfs to the speed of light mechs (and ECM - which I do not regret however) lights will be trashed by streak boats and in real trouble vs any mech which fields e.g. 2 x SSRM6.

[Carchemish]

Leopardo, on 18 November 2015 - 10:26 PM, said:

go play chetah on PTS and try to show you face to enemie!!!!!!!!give a shot! go try it!! oh if you dont play on PTS so say nothing - all you says is true to LIVE....yes its good light - not better then hugin and FS....!!!!

Oh I've played on the PTS..I play every iteration of the PTS, so I do know what I'm talking about. The Cheetah is in no danger of being outclassed by other lights.

"NOW EVERYBODY HAPPY EVERY MECH HAS STRUCTURE BUFF!!!!! BUT NOT CHEETAH!"

Wrong, the Firestarter has no structure quirks. Jenners have no structure quirks (apart from the Oxide). Yes of course mechs like the Spider and Locust get additional structure..BECAUSE THEY CANNOT OTHERWISE COMPETE WITH THE FSA OR ACH.

"A LANCE OF FIRE STARTERS CAN DO THE SAME AND HOUNDs TOO!"

Good! That's the whole point! We should be able to play different mechs while remaining competitive! I want to play my Spider again without gimping my team!

Edited by Carchemish, 20 November 2015 - 01:01 PM.

[Carchemish]

Bush Hopper, on 19 November 2015 - 08:09 AM, said:

Because someone mentioned streaks...with the streak buffs and the nerfs to the speed of light mechs (and ECM - which I do not regret however) lights will be trashed by streak boats and in real trouble vs any mech which fields e.g. 2 x SSRM6.

Agreed here. Of all weapon systems, streaks do not need a buff at all. Ranged lights will be fine, but the brawlers will be in trouble.