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[NameNotAvailable]

was this always the case? This mech is a joke, it's slower than my clan heavies, carries less firepower, why would you ever use it?

[Pockets]

Unless I'm missing something, it's always done the same as them, the Speed Tweak skill got nerfed.

[Audacious Aubergine]

Bear in mind that Clan heavies are all pretty fast, and while certain IS mediums are faster, several Nova variants can carry more weapons than a typical heavy. Though I don't have much experience with them myself, so I could be wrong

[Gigastrike]

You should probably actually check how fast your heavies move.

[Void Angel]

Or, you know, read the patch notes from time to time.

[NameNotAvailable]

I know they took a tiny percentage off speed tweak. I just don't remember it being THAT slow before the patch.
Agreed it can technically carry more weapons than a clan heavy, but given that it can't effectively use that many lasers, it's irrelevant​.

Anyway, guess I'll strip it clean of equipment and throw it back on the dud mech pile, oh well.

[Dakkaface]

NameNotAvailable, on 03 December 2015 - 07:06 AM, said:

I know they took a tiny percentage off speed tweak. I just don't remember it being THAT slow before the patch.
Agreed it can technically carry more weapons than a clan heavy, but given that it can't effectively use that many lasers, it's irrelevant​.

Anyway, guess I'll strip it clean of equipment and throw it back on the dud mech pile, oh well.

Nova and most of the Clan Heavies go the same speed and always have - there's a small loss of speed across the board from the Speed Tweak nerf that you should barely notice. If you're really complaining about major speed loss, you're probably encountering the other new thing in the patch - you lose a big chunk of speed if you lose a side torso, which brings you down to about 69kph when you're heavily damaged.

[Xoco]

I still prefer having the ability to jump.

And holy crap, chain firing C-ERML is so MUCH OP!

I wanted to much to play IS, but hell, it's so much easier to play clans. The weapons are so much better. 1Ton ISERLL ftw.

[Tarogato]

Xoco, on 06 December 2015 - 02:00 AM, said:

I still prefer having the ability to jump.

And holy crap, chain firing C-ERML is so MUCH OP!

I wanted to much to play IS, but hell, it's so much easier to play clans. The weapons are so much better. 1Ton ISERLL ftw.

If you're chainfiring lasers, you're doing it wrong. Especially in a Nova. Always fire the maximum amount of weapons your heat will allow all together at once and focus a single component as best as you can with good aim. Use cover or torso twist as you recover, and then do it again.

Chainfire spreads your damage over a longer period of time, making it more difficult to focus components and requiring more facetime which grants the enemy more time to shoot you while you're doing nothing to make their job more difficult.

[Bluttrunken]

Nova was always a fun mech for me, i.e. I hardly worry about it's performance as I don't expect much from it.

[Xoco]

Tarogato, on 06 December 2015 - 02:14 AM, said:

If you're chainfiring lasers, you're doing it wrong. Especially in a Nova. Always fire the maximum amount of weapons your heat will allow all together at once and focus a single component as best as you can with good aim. Use cover or torso twist as you recover, and then do it again.

Chainfire spreads your damage over a longer period of time, making it more difficult to focus components and requiring more facetime which grants the enemy more time to shoot you while you're doing nothing to make their job more difficult.

Usually I just spam the mouse. All the laser still fires within 0.3 seconds of one another (close enough to an alpha) while I still have freedom to only shoot 1 or 2 when I'm close to heat cap. I do have buttons mapped to fire all at once, but I don't use it nearly as much because I'm usually in the thick of things. I have always heard that clans have disadvantage at close range so I was testing it out. Now I can wholeheartedly say that I disagree. Clans that only bind their button to alpha strike have a disadvantage in a brawl. Anyone who has played for more than a few days will learn to overcome it very quickly.

And what's funny is while Nova is my best mech (my only Clan mech), it is considered a crappy clan mech. Yet it so easily measure up to my best, most over-quirked IS.

[Lily from animove]

Xoco, on 06 December 2015 - 09:18 PM, said:

Usually I just spam the mouse. All the laser still fires within 0.3 seconds of one another (close enough to an alpha) while I still have freedom to only shoot 1 or 2 when I'm close to heat cap. I do have buttons mapped to fire all at once, but I don't use it nearly as much because I'm usually in the thick of things. I have always heard that clans have disadvantage at close range so I was testing it out. Now I can wholeheartedly say that I disagree. Clans that only bind their button to alpha strike have a disadvantage in a brawl. Anyone who has played for more than a few days will learn to overcome it very quickly.

And what's funny is while Nova is my best mech (my only Clan mech), it is considered a crappy clan mech. Yet it so easily measure up to my best, most over-quirked IS.

you must truly have issues piloting the other clanners or properly piloting IS mechs if that is your summary.

[Xoco]

Lily from animove, on 14 December 2015 - 08:46 AM, said:

you must truly have issues piloting the other clanners or properly piloting IS mechs if that is your summary.

I only have 1 clan mech so far (2 starting this morning, now that I have the Jenner IIC). The rest that I have tried are just trial mechs.
I think I do OK enough in my IS mechs. I don't usually wreck faces, but I think it is partly because I play as Scout/ECM mech, so I spend most of my time running around either shielding my team, squirreling away enemies, or ECM their LRMs. I do score in 4-500dmg range when I try to go for damage, so I think I'm not doing too horribly (at least for a Locust anyway).

So how does the fact that I think IS and Clans can both brawl means that I'm a bad IS pilot?

Edited by Xoco, 16 December 2015 - 08:20 AM.

[Jack Shayu Walker]

Lily from animove, on 14 December 2015 - 08:46 AM, said:

you must truly have issues piloting the other clanners or properly piloting IS mechs if that is your summary.

Nova is considered tier 1 for 200m now Lily : p

[Chados]

My 70 ton Summoner is faster than a 55 ton Wolverine....

[Rando Slim]

Nope, nothing new here, yes Nova's mostly suck, no they arent slower than heavies, just same speed. Only good ones are twin ER+PPCs in torsos........and ummmm......yea maybe the small laser boat one........oh and theres always 12 flamers and 4 machine guns.........I also did an LB-10x and 6 smalls (ok, touch too hot), also did 6 smalls and 2 medium pulses (actually does really well and is less hot than just 10-12 small lasers)

[Natural Predator]

I consistently take down up to 70 ton heavies 1 on 1 solo in my nova B. AC10 and 5 small pulse lasers. Its about positioning. You want to get your full first salvo off before they shoot you. Which means you have to use ur low stature and the terrain to get in close. I also run a Nova B with 10 small pulse lasers, 5 in each arm. Extremely effective.

[spectrefang]

The Nova is just as fast as the heavies, always has been. I have always run a pretty much stock Prime(MW2 till now). If you can manage the heat it is an amazing mech. Inside 400m you are a corner shot specialist, and an assassin.

NVA-Prime
12 x CERML
-1 DHS
+TC1 +Range 5 module

[Stormie]

I find my nova with dual LPL in the ST, and dual ERML in an arm to be a very effective mini-TBR for community warfare. also means I can run 1 Madcat + 2 Lokis

[Batman2213]

There's nothing wrong with the Nova.

I'll just leave this here...

Edited by Batman2213, 06 January 2016 - 11:46 AM.