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[Jarl Dane]

BSK, on 03 December 2015 - 01:30 PM, said:

Really? Founder made this game happen, because they did not care about jumpsniping, balancing, or fancy cockpit items. But because they played the tabletop or previous computer versions as kids and had no doubt they would love this version.

And btw there is a more pretentious way, a unit full of pilots that own a golden mech, it was called "Golden Elite" ..

We still want to offer the opportunity. We know there are many stubborn irregulars in this faction. Since we came here there wasnt one drop without at least one player from a different unit who generally refused any kind of coordination and communication although our unit deployed the majority. We don't care. We prefer to fight our enemies, not our teammates. And if we all find a way to work together, then this faction does have a chance to play an important role.

First of all, you came into my thread and derailed the discussion with your agenda. Which is apparently counter to my thread's purpose - which is frankly rude.

Then you mock people who try-hard or use meta strategies and mechs. And then you call the FRR stubborn and say you struggle to get everyone listening to commands in drops with us.

I must say; with guys who disdain the ways to be successful in this game, and instead pretend they are playing a tabletop game - it is probably best not to listen to their commands in a MWO match.

This is not the way to make friends.

You know where the hub is and you know where you will get easy drops with the rest of the FRR community. If you want to be part of that community, then come on over, if you don't.. then that is your own prerogative. But please stop pestering my thread.

Edited by Mech The Dane, 03 December 2015 - 02:35 PM.

[Sagamore]

As a long time lone wolf I would be interested in joining such a unit for the weekend event.

[NomadicCanuck]

Hi All,
I am 2/IC for CEF; I've helped William McNab build this unit up as a "Fun at all costs" group from near the beginning and I enjoy seeing our progress as we get larger and more (or less) skilled in different tournaments. We are not the best in the game but have a good reputation and I am personally proud to wear the CEF tag. If we wear an RKA faction tag for a weekend... Any success of failure will be lumped under another anonymous/temporary organization with no benefit to the unit.

Yes, if all FRR units band together, then of course we would be first in our division (since there'd be only one group) but what does that actually get us? A war horn and banner and... ? And no distinction for our unit. We are not the best in the game, but I'd certainly like to see how my pilots stack up against the rest of the units out there; To mark our progress as pilots and as a unit. If, for whatever reason, we pull out all the stops and actually win something, I'd like our CEF tag to stand proud. If we come dead last, well, that would be a shame but at least we did it under our own tag.

I'll let our Commander and CW Liaison weigh-in on the subject officially. However, I expect the CEF membership would prefer to fight under our tag rather than an anonymous/temporary unit. As always, we enjoy fighting on the FRR hub and will do our best to support FRR through the battle of Tukayyid. You have our firm support in this battle.

In addition... I think PGI may consider this "gaming the system" even though it's done with good intentions. Personally, I think we have an argument since the FRR Hub folks all play together as a unit anyway.

And a shameless plug, if you're interested in a Fun at all Costs unit, mainly based in North America, please visit us at http://CEFGaming.com ; Great spot to hang out with other MWO pilots and join a solid unit with a long history.

Sincerely,

-- NomadicCanuck

[Windscape]

I think its a great idea to fuse our units together into the RKA. Wed probably have a 1000+ members! I might even stay in the RKA, because I would be interested in training new players, and when the steam launch comes, There will probably be a more significant amount of people my age or younger, and they might feel a bit more welcome to this game if they saw a young veteran like me training some people up. I'm looking forward to Tukayidd 2, although this time u don't get a mech after scoring 40pts, but ill live

[Jarl Dane]

NomadicCanuck, on 03 December 2015 - 06:10 PM, said:

FRR through the battle of Tukayyid. You have our firm support in this battle.

In addition... I think PGI may consider this "gaming the system" even though it's done with good intentions. Personally, I think we have an argument since the FRR Hub folks all play together as a unit anyway.

It is not against any rule.

[BSK]

chimmy, on 03 December 2015 - 02:04 PM, said:

Just because now you are offering to let us non-founder plebs play with you guys for a limited amount of time does not really make it any better either.

So you want us to leech from all smaller units and when we leave FRR we take a whole bunch of players with us? This thread is about combining forces for the event and we are trying to help here, we did the same during the first BoT and took in more than 60 pilots.

chimmy, on 03 December 2015 - 02:04 PM, said:

I am saying that having what is essentially a founders only club is pretentious as ****.

There are units just for factions, just for countries, just for girls, just for competetive players and then there is us, just for founders. Deal with it. And I don't care what you think about our unit, we brought more than 500 pilots back into the game, we showed them the basics, the new stuff and connected them to suitable units. And not just for founders, ask .

Mech The Dane, on 03 December 2015 - 02:33 PM, said:

First of all, you came into my thread and derailed the discussion with your agenda. Which is apparently counter to my thread's purpose - which is frankly rude.

First of all, I offered an alternative because some people didn't seem to be happy with your proposal. And us being neutral in FRR, we don't counter your purpose, we add to it.

Mech The Dane, on 03 December 2015 - 02:33 PM, said:

Then you mock people who try-hard or use meta strategies and mechs. And then you call the FRR stubborn and say you struggle to get everyone listening to commands in drops with us.

Well the meta strategies we encountered were ignoring a 10 man and going solo to another gate and the meta mechs we encountered were an Atlas with 8 tons of AMS ammo and a Thunderbolt with 11 tons of ammo for 1 MG, both from the same FRR loyalist unit.

Mech The Dane, on 03 December 2015 - 02:33 PM, said:

This is not the way to make friends.

Calling us names every single match because we use ingame TS doesn't help it either. It comes to a point when we do not care anymore. Either you work with us in the given ways or we just do our thing.

Windscape, on 03 December 2015 - 07:42 PM, said:

I think its a great idea to fuse our units together into the RKA. Wed probably have a 1000+ members!

Wasn't there a cap at 512?


Anyway, we are here to play a game and have fun, we wish everyone good luck and a lot of fun during the event.

[Valdherre Tor]

The event is all about unit size or units that can do more drops. The larger units should take 1st and 2nd place. One of the reasons I wish 2323 would hope on this idea is because we are a small unit with only 33 members and only half of us are active at the moment.

[AntleredCormorant]

I thought there was a waiting period if you left a unit before you could join another?

[Valdherre Tor]

AntleredCormorant, on 04 December 2015 - 06:40 AM, said:

I thought there was a waiting period if you left a unit before you could join another?

I'm not %100 on this but, only if you change factions. Swapping units has no binding contract penalties within the same faction.

[BSK]

AntleredCormorant, on 04 December 2015 - 06:40 AM, said:

I thought there was a waiting period if you left a unit before you could join another?

You are only limited when the contract of the unit is shorter than yours. Switching to another loyalist unit shouldnt be a problem. If you switch to a merc unit just brake yours and you have a 3 day contract ..

[AntleredCormorant]

Thanks for clarifying

[Valdherre Tor]

Mech, I'm talking with Creston now and depending on what he says we will go from there. I'm fine with joining ISEN for the event and would hope you can talk the MJ12 guys into doing the same. Like I said this event is all about unit size and amount of drops to make a true power house.

During the last Tukayyid event 2323 finished somewhere between 10th and 15th place and we had one of the best win percentages in the FRR with only around 20 members at the time. Some of the top three units had the worst win percentages go figure.

Though Creston has the final say. He is BOSS

[Jarl Dane]

Valdherre Tor, on 04 December 2015 - 09:08 AM, said:

Mech, I'm talking with Creston now and depending on what he says we will go from there. I'm fine with joining ISEN for the event and would hope you can talk the MJ12 guys into doing the same. Like I said this event is all about unit size and amount of drops to make a true power house.

During the last Tukayyid event 2323 finished somewhere between 10th and 15th place and we had one of the best win percentages in the FRR with only around 20 members at the time. Some of the top three units had the worst win percentages go figure.

Though Creston has the final say. He is BOSS

Yeah, its population-based rewards. Isengrim had a similar experience in that tournament as well. I'd be all for 2323 hopping in ISEN to help, but I think it would be more fair and send a better message if we got in the RKA unit that was set up. Right now it just has a handful of newer training members, but if we put even our three units; MJ12, 2323 and ISEN in it I think we could make a big impact in the tournament.

But time is running out.. if we're going to do this we have to do this quick. And I haven't had confirmations from either 2323 or MJ12's leadership.

Edited by Mech The Dane, 04 December 2015 - 09:39 AM.

[Valdherre Tor]

Mech The Dane, on 04 December 2015 - 09:22 AM, said:

But time is running out.. if we're going to do this we have to do this quick. And I haven't had confirmations from either 2323 or MJ12's leadership.

I'll talk to the MJ12 now. Still waiting on a response from Creston.

[Valdherre Tor]

I just had a talk with the MJ12 guys. They don't want to join RKA for the event but were considering ISEN and 2323 joining them for this event and rotating through future events, as in joining ISEN or 2323 next time to boost them on the leader boards.

[Scurro]

Valdherre Tor, on 04 December 2015 - 09:37 AM, said:

I just had a talk with the MJ12 guys. They don't want to join RKA for the event but were considering ISEN and 2323 joining them for this event and rotating through future events, as in joining ISEN or 2323 next time to boost them on the leader boards.

Just out of curiosity, do you know why?

Also RKA gives an unbiased unit to join. It's all of the loyal FRR units. Not one unit owns it.

Edited by Scurro, 04 December 2015 - 09:45 AM.

[Valdherre Tor]

Scurro, on 04 December 2015 - 09:43 AM, said:

Just out of curiosity, do you know why?

Also RKA gives an unbiased unit to join. It's all of the loyal FRR units. Not one unit owns it.

I'm not that great of a negotiator, I asked the questions and let them run with the idea. I think they have alot of pride in their unit. They know they will not finish in the top but they just want to see were the stack up against the rest but yet they like the idea of their unit being atop the leader board if we were to join them.

[Jarl Dane]

Well... I don't think that will happen. Like Scuro said, the RKA is a neutral unit. We can go into it, win big, and then when people ask who the RKA is; they see its a coalition of Loyalist units.

If we all jump into an established unit it looks and feels more it is just that single units victory. Takes away from the spirit of cooperation and success.

[tresspaser]

Greetings:
I am the CW liaison for Community Warfare for the Canadian Expeditionary Force. We are a Merc unit and have been loyal to FRR ever since we started to join the CW. On this offer we have been treated as second class citizens and by what I have read on this thread we are to be used and not made count on this tournament. By this trend of thought I have to second my commanding officers decision on not joining the conglomerate that is proposed here. We will however be participating as much as we can on this battle since in numbers there is strength. This also will let us know which units are performing better than others and we can help each other after the event by having inter-unit practice sessions and sharing tactic knowledge.
The battle of Tukayyid was a success in the Lore because the IS united and held back a common threat. This is the same mentality we need on this event, instead of loosing again shamefully like we did on the first Tukayyid event. I believe we just have to be present for the event and join the FRR hub and coordinate drops. Do this enough times and we will prevail with the help of the other IS houses.

On a personal note:

I find the attitude of superiority that BSK has a bit annoying. The segregating principle of his unit of being only founders is disturbing and non-Viking. The mere knowledge of his unit having the same name as he show a very high ego. That only 500K real life income can only join BSK is also dreaming of white clouds while the storm is hitting. All of you should know that the more crap people talk out in the open, the less they really are. we are here to live a second pretend to be life that is no reflection of our own and is not affected (positively or negatively) by our real life. I have never quite liked BSK (person not the unit) because of the bad impression I had of him when i first noticed him in the game queue that his name was the same as his unit and there where others with his unit tag........OH MY GOD who can be so narcissistic?!!!!! Yeah BSK can, LOL. So i just do what i do best, ignore him.
When i see him on the queue, i ignore him.
When i read his superiority posts, i ignore him.
When i read he wants to steal the RKA idea and have everyone join his BSK, i ignore him.
When i read that only founders can pilot with him, i ignore him.
When i get destroyed by him in a match with a single laser after being pounded by me, i report him and then, i ignore him.
When i hear him squealing in Voip about how we are loosing the match (not him) i switch to "english is my second language" and then... i ignore him.
When i read a post trying to justify his foot in his mouth, i ignore him.
When i recall all the things he has written and see his PSR i realize what his life is all about and then, i ignore him.
When i write all this, and realize i'm not ignoring him, i get pissed and ignore him.

hope you all get my point, nothing personal on a real life view BSK but that's how you portray yourself here. Do not expect too many friends or followers. But you can be sure that:

When i see BSK (player) commanding a drop I will not ignore him. Will follow his orders even if its to our failure, the same way i will follow any other drop commander to the best of my skills.

[BSK]

tresspaser, on 04 December 2015 - 11:14 AM, said:

That only 500K real life income can only join BSK is also dreaming of white clouds while the storm is hitting.

tresspaser, on 04 December 2015 - 11:14 AM, said:

nothing personal on a real life view BSK but that's how you portray yourself here.

This is getting out of hand and really childish here. Neither did I "steal" the idea when I repeatedly told you we did this already during the first BoT.

The comment from the MJ12 guys just proves my point.