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[norus]

El Bandito, on 06 December 2015 - 06:59 AM, said:

And you just lost all credibility cause 1. you made a personal attack, and 2. I was not the one who made the mirror thread. For shame...

Whoa now sir, that could just be a spelling error. There were quite a few so i'd give him a pass on this one until further clarification. C- for spelling lily, your English teacher would be ashamed.

[Kaitto]

The funny part about this thread is that as an IS pugger we've completely destroyed most Clans pugs, sometimes it's close fun matches against them but when it's a 100% pug on each side, IS always won on my end. Maybe it was because I was there, cough.

[Chrome Magnus]

norus, on 06 December 2015 - 05:37 AM, said:

Clan trials are amazing. Started playing again 2 days ago, decided F the IS queue and went clan for tukkayid. Wow, just wow. Trial timber and stormcrow are absolutely amazing. Between those 2 and my adder I felt pretty confident and knew I made the right choice vs taking my ctf-3dc. My thoughts were basically wow so this is what it feels like to pilot a REAL heavy, versus the jm6 or ctf. Only thing I missed was my wvk-6k, but that's a different playstyle than stormcrow. Adder's not ideal but with the heat gen buff it felt solid as a mid-range fire support, if not as strong as say a ach or fs9.

It hurts my brain that people would say they were perfectly balanced back before nerfs. People are just that stupid.

I was going to point out how terrible the clan Mad Dog trial mech was but just checked and saw it's gone. I still want to know who thought it was a good idea to equip a pair of LRM 20's thereby limiting ammo to just enough for 9 shots...

[Ghogiel]

I honestly can't tell the difference between ~500dmg IS or clan players. Seriously. Pugs just get farmed.

[STEF_]

El Bandito, on 06 December 2015 - 06:54 AM, said:

I was specifically referring to the trial mechs available to the puggers. Clan trials are simply better in general--especially to those who tend to tumble around in the open (lose an ST? no problem, you will live!) or do not know how to lead a shot (your mech only has lazors, so point and click!).

Yea, that's true, IS trials are quite weird from the change. With my IS account I was pretty happy with that trial Banshee, while the clan trials were bad.

I'm wondering if they are switching IS/Clan meta trial, instead of doing both good at the same time.

[Aiden Skye]

Pugs be pugs. I had some really...I mean REALLY bad pug teams playing for Marik. Rivaled only by the really...I mean REALLY bad pug teams on ghost bear. That's just pug life. Throw in players that never play CW outside of events and there is even more potential for really...I mean REALLY bad match ups on both sides.

IS has way more players this event and probably lots more pugs., clans have most of the top teams.
In short, pug life!

[Lily from animove]

norus, on 06 December 2015 - 07:04 AM, said:

Whoa now sir, that could just be a spelling error. There were quite a few so i'd give him a pass on this one until further clarification. C- for spelling lily, your English teacher would be ashamed.

Even my teachers got used to my bad spelling and every time we made essays, even in german, they were divided into content, grammar and spelling. And then made a whole mark. And getting an F for spelling was just something I calculated into it. But the weighting was 1xspelling, 2x grammar 3x content. So I balanced that out with the other 2

[Sarlic]

Lily from animove, on 06 December 2015 - 07:26 AM, said:

Even my teachers got used to my bad spelling and every time we made essays, even in german, they were divided into content, grammar and spelling. And then made a whole mark. And getting an F for spelling was just something I calculated into it. But the weighting was 1xspelling, 2x grammar 3x content. So I balanced that out with the other 2

Who cares.

I edit alot of my posts after as well, because i mostly correct my gramar and usually add a few lines here and there.

But most of the time it's my jelly fingers and the tablet at fault.

Edited by Sarlic, 06 December 2015 - 07:30 AM.

[Lily from animove]

Sarlic, on 06 December 2015 - 07:29 AM, said:

Who cares.

I edit alot of my posts after as well, because i mostly correct my gramar and usually add a few lines here and there.

But most of the time it's my jelly fingers and the tablet at fault.

poeple who read it because sometimes they have to decipher this stuff xD
I mean its amazing I cna still read it because I know what kind of typos they are (jelly finger typos)

[Aresye]

El Bandito, on 06 December 2015 - 05:27 AM, said:

except Clan puggies get better trial mechs suited to the meta.

More like, "Clan puggies FINALLY get better trial mechs."

Maybe the Clan pugs are better now because they've spent the last freaking year having the absolute worse trial mechs in existence, and finally got good ones a month ago?

[El Bandito]

Aresye Kerensky, on 06 December 2015 - 07:45 AM, said:

More like, "Clan puggies FINALLY get better trial mechs."

Maybe the Clan pugs are better now because they've spent the last freaking year having the absolute worse trial mechs in existence, and finally got good ones a month ago?

That is basically what I said in my first post, except some Clan superiorists are spouting nonsense on multiple threads about how Clan pugs are automatically better skilled--as if simply picking a Clan faction boosts one's skill level.

Edited by El Bandito, 06 December 2015 - 07:50 AM.

[Lily from animove]

El Bandito, on 06 December 2015 - 07:48 AM, said:

That is basically what I said in my first post, except some Clan superiorists are spouting nonsense on multiple threads about how Clan pugs are automatically better skilled--as if simply picking a Clan faction boosts one's skill level.

No one said that pickign a clan faction does automatically up your skills. That is somehting you lay now into our words that has not been said. But there is something that makes many bad players choose Is, may that be clanners being at the end of faction selection, IS mechs generally cheaper so their first mech being often IS. But it still does nto explain the higher amounts of flaming and whining and blaming the IS aligned players emit. So mabe the lore differences between clan and IS?

[El Bandito]

Lily from animove, on 06 December 2015 - 07:56 AM, said:

But it still does nto explain the higher amounts of flaming and whining and blaming the IS aligned players emit. So mabe the lore differences between clan and IS?

Mhmm, now I know not to take your words seriously.

[-Vompo-]

So if Clan pugs are better does a pug become worse if he/she changes from Clan to IS or could it be that some players happen to be bad while some are good no matter the faction and because most players are bad in online games and IS has more pugs there are also more bad pugs playing for IS?

[ExplicitContent]

So you realize that he posted the same EXACT thing with the title Clan Pugs. Everyone needs to stop getting so damn twisted up over stuff like this. Its really funny that you are though.

[Lily from animove]

El Bandito, on 06 December 2015 - 07:59 AM, said:

Mhmm, now I know not to take your words seriously.

what you take seriosuly or not does nto change the situation the battlefields are currently in.

[RandomStatic]

I Loled, i had a match like that in pug groups against Kcom and MS yesterday, those 2 matchups were hilarious, most of the team kinda gave up after the 2nd push.

[Ted Wayz]

Lily from animove, on 06 December 2015 - 05:46 AM, said:

you really still live on that illusion? Did you eve had a look at the available trials? Since trials aren't stock mechs anymore this is just not true. Only the "light" category is a bit questionably bad in choice since clanners have a SCH and the IS not an FS9.

I think the majority live on that illusion. Mainly because clan mechs do have a larger margin for error.

What is the balance of clan Tier 1 trials v. IS Tier 1 trials?

[Kaeb Odellas]

Ted Wayz, on 06 December 2015 - 11:55 AM, said:

I think the majority live on that illusion. Mainly because clan mechs do have a larger margin for error.

What is the balance of clan Tier 1 trials v. IS Tier 1 trials?

Clan trials are better:

Lights: JR7-F and RVN-3L vs. Badder and ERSL ACH. ACH wins

Medium: AC10 + 3ML Enforcer and 8 ML Hunchback vs Gauss SHC and MPL Storm Crow. Storm Crow wins by virtue of being a goddamn Storm Crow.

Heavy: 3LPL TDR vs Laserwolf. Laserwolf wins. The TDR is a decent CW mech, though not even the best TDR. Cat A1 and EBJ are both crappy and should be ignored, though the EBJ is better too.

Assault: Dakka Krab + Brawler Atlas vs Lasergauss DWolf and LaserSRM EXE. Crab and DWolf seem to have different strengths, but both are too slow for CW. EXE is fastest but hot as balls. Atlas needs to get in close to do any kind of damage. Kind of a wash here, but I'll probably give it to the Clans.

Edited by Kaeb Odellas, 06 December 2015 - 12:25 PM.

[Sandpit]

Lily from animove, on 06 December 2015 - 05:16 AM, said:

what they think is going to happen



what truly happens

I agree! The clans think they're gong to charge and just break our lines. A good IS unit will form up and make them regret not sitting outside the gates.

Meanwhile any time a squirrel gets into someone's firing line in PUGlandia