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[Dont Brawl With This Atlas]

got an amd processor phenom x4 945 can and gtx 970 can play witcher 3, fallout 4, warthunder

at ultra settings only mechwarrior online i have to play at medium setting avg 35 fps even if i set it

to the lowest setting i get 5 fps boost and if i play clan warfare avg 20 fps

steam release, more players, more revenues now u have the resource to fix this so please do so

Edited by IamJeist, 13 December 2015 - 09:31 AM.

[cSand]

My friend has the same proc with a AMD r9 270 and runs this game on high with ~50 fps

Could be many factors. It was mostly the FX processors this game has issues with. And that is more the Cryengine I believe, and how WIndows handled those processors (there are 2 important hotfixes for FX owners for Windows 7)

[Yosharian]

That's not an AMD problem, that's an MWO problem, it performs like dogshit on all mid-range CPUs.

[nehebkau]

There are MWO AMD CPU problems (meaning something about the engine and game-design/build are not working with AMD CPUs) and I have been trying to get support to deal with it for a while. They have me trying new graphics drivers -- but that won't solve the underlying issue -- the game only appears to use 2 of my 8 cores for almost all of its processing. That causes some pretty substantial bottle necking. I sit at around 60 fps on the lowest settings and every increase in visual beauty will give me a 20 fps drop.

This is my MWO potato:

Processor: AMD FX9590 8 core @ 5Ghz (Overclocked and liquid cooled)
Graphics: 2 AMD R9290x 4Gb ram @ ~2Ghz. (Liquid cooled overclocked)
RAM: 64 Gb (so much -- for work related reasons)
HDs: Stripe set of intel SSDs.

edit:
I have gone so far as to run the game on an entirely separate SSD array with just the game and teamspeak on it (nothing else but the OS/drivers installed). It's frustrating and making me consider a new mainboard and CPU/water block for Christmas.

Edited by nehebkau, 13 December 2015 - 09:58 AM.

[Yosharian]

nehebkau, on 13 December 2015 - 09:45 AM, said:

There are MWO AMD CPU problems (meaning something about the engine and game-design/build are not working with AMD CPUs) and I have been trying to get support to deal with it for a while. They have me trying new graphics drivers -- but that won't solve the underlying issue -- the game only appears to use 2 of my 8 cores for almost all of its processing. That causes some pretty substantial bottle necking. I sit at around 60 fps on the lowest settings and every increase in visual beauty will give me a 20 fps drop.

This is my MWO potato:

Processor: AMD FX9590 8 core @ 5Ghz (Overclocked and liquid cooled)
Graphics: 2 AMD R9290x 4Gb ram @ ~2Ghz. (Liquid cooled overclocked)
RAM: 64 Gb
HDs: Stripe set of intel SSDs.

64GB RAM what the ****

[sycocys]

Phenom II x6
Radeon 6900
16 gigs of ram
installed on ssd

35 fps on pretty close to max settings anywhere in the game.

SSD made the biggest difference, a graphics card with 1 gig dedicated ram made up the second biggest chunk

*nothing overclocked

Edited by sycocys, 13 December 2015 - 10:02 AM.

[Col Jaime Wolf]

AMD FX 9590 @ 5ghz
GTX 660
32 Gb RAM
MWO on SSD

game runs sub 50fps on all high and drops under 20 fps often in a big firefight, if i play at "comp" settings (all settings on low except textures) i get 60-100 FPS pretty consistantly.

but ya im gettin a new vid card for christmas (something in the R9 390X or GTX 980 area) hopin it will let me raise the bar

sometimes (alot of the time) the game is only using 2-4 cores, sometimes it uses 6 dont think ive ever seen it use all 8 for any amount of time.

[Preyzer]

AMD FX 8320 @4ghz
GTX 560 TI
GTX 560 (just for physx crap it well not let me SLI the dam things)
8 Gb Ram
MWO on 1tb hhd

i get 60fps on most maps with drops to 50 on others with some dips in to low 40s in heavy combat using high setings

[Mark Brandhauber]

Agr

nehebkau, on 13 December 2015 - 09:45 AM, said:

This is my MWO potato:

Processor: AMD FX9590 8 core @ 5Ghz (Overclocked and liquid cooled)
Graphics: 2 AMD R9290x 4Gb ram @ ~2Ghz. (Liquid cooled overclocked)
RAM: 64 Gb (so much -- for work related reasons)
HDs: Stripe set of intel SSDs.

Holy smokes batman! Thats quite a system
My factory standard 9590@ 4.7 ghz with a nvidia gtx 970 4g asus stryix 16 gb RAM installed on a SSD
Gets steady 60 fps with occassional bug dips to 30 fps. But still I must agree they have been avoiding the amd optimisation issue for some time now.
They don't have a single AMD test rig in their building from what i understand, they all run HP i5 workstaions or so i remember reading. Still it's about time you did something PGI.

[MechWarrior5152251]

That is why I blew a whole $53 on a Pentium G645 chip, lol.

[Mark Brandhauber]

and how much was your motherboard? oh wait.... completely off topic, please go away.

[MechWarrior5152251]

G645 Pentium running at 2.9 ghz. 8g ram, el cheapo generic board that cost me $20, AMD Radeon 7770 1gb video. I get at least 30 frames per second with 1080p...

So I would ditch the AMD CPU and just get a cheap Intel Chip and board. Also games do not benefit from more than 2 cores, so 8 core buys you nothing over 2...

Mark Brandhauber, on 13 December 2015 - 04:56 PM, said:

and how much was your motherboard? oh wait.... completely off topic, please go away.

LOL you are stupid. That was the price of the CPU not the motherboard.

[Mark Brandhauber]

and do you not realise your still completely off topic and just trolling.

Edited by Mark Brandhauber, 13 December 2015 - 05:04 PM.

[Napoleon_Blownapart]

the OP's chip was the minimum back in beta, there's a player Goose that posts alot about user.cfg tweaks to use more cores, try stuff like

d3d11_TripleBuffering=1

r_MultiThreaded=1
r_MultiGPU = 0
sys_physics_CPU=3
r_HDRGrainAmount=0.0
gp_option_ShowCockpitGlass=0
r_DepthOfField=0
r_WaterUpdateThread = 2
sys_TaskThread1_CPU = 0
sys_streaming_CPU = 2
sys_TaskThread5_CPU = 1
sys_budget_videomeme = 1024 <the memory on my card
e_GsmCache = 1
q_ShaderWater = 0
r_FogShadows = 0
r_fogShadowsWater = 0

Edited by Gorantir, 13 December 2015 - 05:10 PM.

[cSand]

Out of curiosity, are you guys with AMDs and performance issues running Windows 7 by any chance?

Edited by cSand, 13 December 2015 - 08:48 PM.

[xengk]

Windows 7 64bit here.

I get a constant 55~60fps on my system, except on River City and Forest Colony where I can drop down to 30~40fps.
My computer is rather old and have under went several upgrade along the way.

CPU: AMD Phenom II x6 1090T 3.2Ghz
GPU: Asus Direct CU II Radeon R9 270x 4GB
RAM: 16GB
M/B: Gigabyte MA770T-UD3P
HDD: Western Digital Blue 1TB

The HDD is partitioned to give Windows it own partition with no other program on it. MWO is installed on another partition where I keep all my games.

[Narcissistic Martyr]

Deneb chips work, but you have to scale things back a bit or overclock the ever loving crap out of them.

[Lightfoot]

I have a Phenom II X3 720 and a GTX 660, Windows 7 64 Pro, 16 GB RAM, and I have no problems running MWO, most settings on High, texture, models, environment. I do run my video card with half refresh rate, so 30 frames per second, but MWO never dips below 30 FPS. Motherboard is Gigabyte. So my rig is similar to yours, but older so wondering why the difference?

[sneeking]

They must of done something in the seven or more months i didn't play for because it runs better than i remember. Im now using higher settings and getting faster smoother gameplay and in the two days of play i put in over the weekend i didn't get any crashes.
i was surprised this is opposite of what i expected, game used to crash my system a lot and play quality was reaching quite a sad state for me before i left.

same old x4 955 black clocked to around 3.8 4.0 depending on the weather and how mu cooling is keeping up. Gigabyte ma770t mobo 12gig ram and r9 290. Windows home preem 64.

[Peter2k]

sneeking, on 14 December 2015 - 02:21 AM, said:

They must of done something in the seven or more months i didn't play for because it runs better than i remember. Im now using higher settings and getting faster smoother gameplay and in the two days of play i put in over the weekend i didn't get any crashes.
i was surprised this is opposite of what i expected, game used to crash my system a lot and play quality was reaching quite a sad state for me before i left.

same old x4 955 black clocked to around 3.8 4.0 depending on the weather and how mu cooling is keeping up. Gigabyte ma770t mobo 12gig ram and r9 290. Windows home preem 64.

They did some performance passes
Still
The HUD takes quite some fps away, flash based CPU hoand the fact that mechs are kind of made like Lego's so you can blow them up big by bit is causing a good amount of draw calls (haven't the link to the comment from Karl Berg on this on hand now)

Add to this that AMD was betting on multi tasking instead of single thread performance combined with the fact that DX 9 and 11 can't multi thread that well


AMD support = DX12 or Vulcan support
Should make quite a difference in MWO

Bother Russ some more on Twitter about it
Wanted to have a talk with CryTech about it after steam release