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#1 Mahikan

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Posted 14 December 2015 - 01:54 AM

Posted ImageSo I've been playing recently with some friend and que and run into match very similar to this, Not really a complaining thread as we've won quiet a few when so low on tonnage.

But holy moly is this heavily skewed.

that's an almost 900 ton drop vs a 600 ton drop. Crazy stuff! what causes this? and what are some horrible matches you've had.

We also had a game where the even team had 4 king crabs and 1 direwolf, to our one direwolf and 3 heavys. (they had 3-4 heavy's as well) Crazy stuff

Edited by Lobo VVahya, 14 December 2015 - 01:56 AM.


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Posted 14 December 2015 - 02:16 AM

it is because we no longer have class limits but only weight limits for different sizes of groups. so a bigger group has to be lighter than a small group.

If you now have a 10+2 against 5x2 groups, you get these differences.

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Posted 14 December 2015 - 02:20 AM

Just make sure you are using all your tonnage available when in a group, its not worth it not to. The guys in large groups that are stuck to 55-65 tons a mech are certainly using all of thiers im sure.

But thats why this happens, you get groups why are 3 and 4 mans taking 2 or 3 lights and mediums and one heavy is not using enough tonnage to counter act seeing each mech of an opposing larger group be 55 tons or over.

Just gotta use that tonnage and hope RNG Jesus showers you with PUG favors and you get guys doing the same thing.

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Posted 14 December 2015 - 02:25 AM

View PostLobo VVahya, on 14 December 2015 - 01:54 AM, said:

Posted ImageSo I've been playing recently with some friend and que and run into match very similar to this, Not really a complaining thread as we've won quiet a few when so low on tonnage.

But holy moly is this heavily skewed.

that's an almost 900 ton drop vs a 600 ton drop. Crazy stuff! what causes this? and what are some horrible matches you've had.

We also had a game where the even team had 4 king crabs and 1 direwolf, to our one direwolf and 3 heavys. (they had 3-4 heavy's as well) Crazy stuff

It's in the patch notes

https://mwomercs.com...-1428-20oct2015

Tonnage limits by group size for group queue instead of 4x3.

Edited by EgoSlayer, 14 December 2015 - 02:41 AM.


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Posted 14 December 2015 - 02:30 AM

Ive seen 3 dires and 3 King Crabs on the same team before. It was a slaughter.

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Posted 14 December 2015 - 01:39 PM

I mean, I'm aware of the changes. But we que'd as 3 and yes we played as mediums, Wouldn't the system try and pair us up with higher tonnage team mates?

If it doesn't, that just seems silly.

Just my thoughts

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Posted 14 December 2015 - 03:55 PM

View PostLobo VVahya, on 14 December 2015 - 01:39 PM, said:

I mean, I'm aware of the changes. But we que'd as 3 and yes we played as mediums, Wouldn't the system try and pair us up with higher tonnage team mates? If it doesn't, that just seems silly. Just my thoughts


I agree. I think it just doesn't have the playerbase to try to match so many things or perhaps its just lazy matchmaking. I would rather sit in queue for longer and have it account for these things than a stompfest.

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Posted 14 December 2015 - 06:02 PM

View PostLobo VVahya, on 14 December 2015 - 01:39 PM, said:

I mean, I'm aware of the changes. But we que'd as 3 and yes we played as mediums, Wouldn't the system try and pair us up with higher tonnage team mates?

If it doesn't, that just seems silly.

Just my thoughts

AFAIK it only looks at the group sizes (as in the potential tonnage). It really is a bit of a shame, since there's a lot of fun to be had in a lance of lights/fast mediums.

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Posted 14 December 2015 - 07:07 PM

View PostLobo VVahya, on 14 December 2015 - 01:39 PM, said:

I mean, I'm aware of the changes. But we que'd as 3 and yes we played as mediums, Wouldn't the system try and pair us up with higher tonnage team mates?

If it doesn't, that just seems silly.

Just my thoughts


No, the only thing that group queue uses for match making is the size of the group and the PSR ratings. It doesn't do tonnage matching, smaller groups are supposed to take advantage of their larger ton limits to make up for larger groups having (in theory) better team work. It does this to speed up match making.
Adding tonnage matching to it would defeat the purpose and may as well have left it a 4x3 since it's a simpler building block to make a match than basically random tonnage sizes for each group.

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Posted 14 December 2015 - 07:16 PM

Need to carry harder in your mediums. Posted Image

Heveric had a hell of a match too.

Can't win em all.

Edited by Amsro, 14 December 2015 - 07:17 PM.


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Posted 14 December 2015 - 07:34 PM

View PostLobo VVahya, on 14 December 2015 - 01:54 AM, said:

Posted ImageSo I've been playing recently with some friend and que and run into match very similar to this, Not really a complaining thread as we've won quiet a few when so low on tonnage.

But holy moly is this heavily skewed.

that's an almost 900 ton drop vs a 600 ton drop. Crazy stuff! what causes this? and what are some horrible matches you've had.

We also had a game where the even team had 4 king crabs and 1 direwolf, to our one direwolf and 3 heavys. (they had 3-4 heavy's as well) Crazy stuff


Posted Image


That is all.

#12 Tarogato

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Posted 14 December 2015 - 07:59 PM

Enemy team has 6 assaults and your team has 5 lights? ezpz teamworkOP









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