Help Me Pick What You Think Is The Worst Mech
#21
Posted 16 December 2015 - 11:29 AM
Mist Lynx: Haven't been successful at all in this one.
Possibly the Ice Ferrett and Shadow Cat. I can actually get builds that work well, but the mechs as a whole seem sub par.
Summoner: I actually have a few builds I like, but it is also subpar overall.
Ironically the Vindicator doesn't get much love, but I actually liked and enjoyed the chassis. I thought it performed very well. Then again I prefer all my Inner Sphere chassis over Clan tech. But most of the ones I have not liked how they played you already listed.
#22
Posted 16 December 2015 - 10:20 PM
Other popularly unpopular ones that I strongly disagree with:
Executioner, Gargoyle, Vindicator, Highlander, Zeus (maybe not seen as a 'worst' mech by many, but gets very little recognition)
#23
Posted 16 December 2015 - 10:53 PM
I must have tried 20 different builds on the thing and I couldn't make any of them work for me (you might have better luck/patience)
The 1x is the only mech I've ever sold. I have a k/d ratio in it of 0.09 (2 kills, 23 deaths) compared to my universal 0.83 k/d
The problem I find is you get three ballistic slots, with the tonnage/crit space in that arm to use one of them unless machine guns, otherwise you have just a single missile, a one crit energy and 1 energy that you can put a big weapon in - this puts it hardpoint wise down with the commandos (which I have an average kd ratio of 0.5 in across the 2D, 3A and 1B) except this thing has a speed cap just over half the speed of the commando.
For comparison the mist lynx that others in this thread are suggesting I do 0.6, 0.73 and 0.37 k/d with the three variants I own
#24
Posted 17 December 2015 - 05:20 AM
#25
Posted 17 December 2015 - 06:45 PM
TercieI, on 17 December 2015 - 05:20 AM, said:
Hey now. At least the 5V can jump and annoy the daylights out of every straggler assault mech. SDR-5V
The Anansi...ehhhh. I was going to say you could troll people using a gauss in that arm, but it doesn't have enough tonnage to do anything but 1-2 tons of ammo and no armor. But yeah, it's pretty terrible.
#26
Posted 17 December 2015 - 07:06 PM
Then I would also agree that the Vindicator is sub-par. Never seen it really used successfully.
#27
Posted 17 December 2015 - 07:59 PM
#28
Posted 20 December 2015 - 02:28 PM
ArcturusWolf, on 17 December 2015 - 06:45 PM, said:
Hey now. At least the 5V can jump and annoy the daylights out of every straggler assault mech. SDR-5V
The Anansi...ehhhh. I was going to say you could troll people using a gauss in that arm, but it doesn't have enough tonnage to do anything but 1-2 tons of ammo and no armor. But yeah, it's pretty terrible.
Oh, yeah. That 12 point alpha annoys...who now?
#29
Posted 20 December 2015 - 03:03 PM
TercieI, on 20 December 2015 - 02:28 PM, said:
Oh, yeah. That 12 point alpha annoys...who now?
It's got +30% E-cooldown and 30% laser duration reduction, which means that with a module and Fast Fire skill it can fire once every (0.4s + 1.5s = 1.9s). That's actually 6 sustained DPS to someone's rear end, which can quickly destroy a heavy from the rear. How else do you think the LCT-1V racks up massive numbers with its single LPL on a 1.7s cooldown? It works the same way as this spider with its dual MPL; repeated rapid-fire moderate-damage hits.
On that note: SDR-5V 1 LPL. Cooldown, range, laser duration quirks turns this into a bit of a monster.
Edited by ArcturusWolf, 20 December 2015 - 03:07 PM.
#30
Posted 20 December 2015 - 04:03 PM
The Ice Ferret. Annemic hardpoints in most variants. Maybe could go as missile boat ?
The Summoner: A great mech in MW3 but only mediocre ( only usable as jumpsniper ) in MW4 and absolutely underwhelming in MWO. Oversized engine, annemic hardpoints and low module space.
Gargoyle...like above.
Cant say anything about Gladiator but it suffers like the Victor from what I heared.
For Inner sphere lights just the commando commes to my mind as clearly underwhelming.
There are several mediums competing for worst mech in game in my eyes, Vindicator for odd hardpoints, Kintaro and Trebuchet for beeing assault sized and medium armored.
For the IS Heavy branch there is no outright terrible Mech or at least only one variant is clearly underpowered.
Still dont like the Dragon, the Quickdraw and the Orion, but thats only me.
For Assault mech I clearly dislike the Victor since its movment model was nerfed, its jumpjets neutered and PPC and Gauss nerfed into oblivion.
My Dragonslayer felt like Achilles after someone cut of his testicles and one foot and shaved his head and ripped out all his teeth.
Edited by The Basilisk, 20 December 2015 - 04:05 PM.
#31
Posted 20 December 2015 - 11:51 PM
Even your stock urbie is better!
#32
Posted 21 December 2015 - 05:23 AM
I'd go with the mistlynx - on paper it should be really effective, but it isn't for some reason. I think it is that extra drop in armour you get with being 25 tons - it makes it weaker than a spider.
I'm pretty sure I could be effective in the Vindicator 1x btw. It was the only Vindi I was tempted to get.
#33
Posted 21 December 2015 - 12:04 PM
#34
Posted 30 December 2015 - 02:29 PM
#35
Posted 31 December 2015 - 04:09 PM
IS: Commandos, Trebuchet's, Vindicators, Victors, Awesomes
#36
Posted 01 January 2016 - 11:18 PM
Cato Phoenix, on 31 December 2015 - 04:09 PM, said:
I don't think Kit Foxes are all that bad. It's just that people try to use them as lights while they should actually be treated either as a really small, somewhat-mobile KGC, or a mini Streakcrow. I will say that they are extremely painful to level, but once mastered they aren't half bad.
Over the course of about 250 matches, I've managed to rack up 90k damage across all three of my Kit Foxes. That's almost 375 damage average a match, which is better than I could say for even my ravens (400k damage over 1500 matches; slightly less than 275/match average). I reckon the Badder is more deserving of that spot.
MLX, however... and the VND-1X...those are truly, TRULY awful mechs D: Only someone who finds Losing is Fun ™ will truly be able to stand those.
Edited by ArcturusWolf, 01 January 2016 - 11:21 PM.
#37
Posted 03 January 2016 - 09:35 AM
Trying 2mp 2smlp right now with an average of 300 damage. Nothing amazing unlike what the wolverine 7d(l) has surprised me with recently.
But too early to tell, will need about 500 matches before I judge. That is excluding the experimentation I need to find a build that works for me.
So any build suggestions are welcome too!
Got a 3 srm2 1 mpl build comming after I Feel I got the first build performance down.
Edited by Euklides, 03 January 2016 - 09:43 AM.
#38
Posted 03 January 2016 - 09:44 AM
Euklides, on 14 December 2015 - 09:07 PM, said:
Not really a thread about evaluating what I already like.
I do not tend to agree with the normal circle jerk regarding the "bad" mechs. I think most people claiming that is just having a knee jerk reaction regarding something that does not work for them.
That is also why I am here asking for input on what to buy, to test if the "bad" holds up as bad when I pilot them myself.
Good on ya man, I've also made it somewhat of a hobby, to Master "terrible" mechs and make them frightening to play against. I'm only Tier 2 atm, but my PSR has been rising steadily lately and I really use nothing but these "bad" mechs. Unfortunately, I'm quite partial to Omni's so I haven't managed to drag any IS mechs outa the gutter yet. Perhaps I'll start today with whatever you choose.
So far my favorite mechs of all time, the ones I'm undoubtedly deadliest in, are the Kitfox, Nova, and Summoner. Actually you might try the Summoner, it and the Ice Ferret are undisputed as the worst two clan mechs.
Edited by Jack Shayu Walker, 03 January 2016 - 09:47 AM.
#39
Posted 03 January 2016 - 09:54 AM
NUJRSYDEVIL, on 21 December 2015 - 12:04 PM, said:
ArcturusWolf, on 01 January 2016 - 11:18 PM, said:
Euklides, on 03 January 2016 - 09:35 AM, said:
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So any build suggestions are welcome too!
Got a 3 srm2 1 mpl build comming after I Feel I got the first build performance down.
The Myst Lynx is not that hard, it'd be one of my favs if the Jenner IIC didn't recently steal its job for me; ERPPC, ECM, bring to CW and rack up 1000 damage. Myst Lynx has the advantage of essentially not existing so far as anyone else is concerned. When you combine the low aggro with the tiny hitbox and a long range fire and forget weapon, you can finish matches without a scratch.
Edited by Jack Shayu Walker, 03 January 2016 - 09:59 AM.
#40
Posted 03 January 2016 - 10:24 AM
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