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[Mystere]

DarkMetalBlade, on 15 December 2015 - 12:40 PM, said:

The one thing that immediately caught my attention was the new rules regarding non-participation. Apparantly, from the looks of it, it means that people are obligated to put themselves up for execution if the match is lob-sided.

If that's the case, I might just end up retiring from this game.

Nah! It's still fine to make the enemy earn the last kill any way you can. <maniacal >

[TWIAFU]

DarkMetalBlade, on 15 December 2015 - 12:40 PM, said:

The one thing that immediately caught my attention was the new rules regarding non-participation. Apparantly, from the looks of it, it means that people are obligated to put themselves up for execution if the match is lob-sided.

If that's the case, I might just end up retiring from this game.

That is NOT what is says.

Kraftwerkedup, on 15 December 2015 - 11:17 AM, said:

Suiciding gives you a death. It just doesnt give anyone a kill.

Not the same thing.

Besides suiciding is faster for everyone. Win win.

Speaking of which, there have been a handful of times that ive gotten the bad spawn on Tourmaline, started taking LL fire and just disconnected, knowing that I cant make it across the field without some serious luck.

I was dead anyways, so dropping 10 seconds faster than waiting for the death animation, just makes sense. If I could quit the match during the deathcam, id just wait.

Will be a win win when your reported for it and removed from being able to do it.

That is the win win.

[CycKath]

627, on 15 December 2015 - 11:26 AM, said:

haven't seen new CoCs with the steam install...

Same, first mention of it I saw was this thread.

[DarkMetalBlade]

Mystere, on 15 December 2015 - 12:45 PM, said:

Nah! It's still fine to make the enemy earn the last kill any way you can. <maniacal >

Yeah, but isn't running away continuously from the enemy seen as non-participation in the CoC?

Actually, I had a second look at it & it states that you have to be shut down in order for it to count as a CoC violation.

Edited by DarkMetalBlade, 15 December 2015 - 01:41 PM.

[Mystere]

DarkMetalBlade, on 15 December 2015 - 01:38 PM, said:

Yeah, but isn't running away continuously from the enemy seen as non-participation in the CoC?

According to some (now former) mods, no. That is under the assumption that the player did participate in the fight.

Now if only PGI actually clarified what that actually meant, then we're not about to have what I think will be another thread several dozen pages long.

[DAYLEET]

DarkMetalBlade, on 15 December 2015 - 01:38 PM, said:

Yeah, but isn't running away continuously from the enemy seen as non-participation in the CoC?

Actually, I had a second look at it & it states that you have to be shut down in order for it to count as a CoC violation.

look harder, deliberately avoiding combat is a big no no.

[DarkMetalBlade]

DAYLEET, on 15 December 2015 - 01:45 PM, said:

look harder, deliberately avoiding combat is a big no no.

&#$%ing knew it. Guess I really am obligated to put myself up for execution if the match is decided against me.

[Revis Volek]

Mister Blastman, on 15 December 2015 - 10:40 AM, said:

IGP is gone.

On another note... where do we select our colors that we want for these IIC packs?

Nevermind... it is under Profile/Content here on the forum. Hello Jade Falcon yellow paint! Now I can have a bumblebee Wubshee. Muhahahahahaha.

Clam faction content i think only works on Clam mechs....

[Mister Blastman]

DarthRevis, on 15 December 2015 - 02:11 PM, said:

Clam faction content i think only works on Clam mechs....

Nope. The paint works on all 'mechs.

[Revis Volek]

Mister Blastman, on 15 December 2015 - 02:11 PM, said:

Nope. The paint works on all 'mechs.

ahh yes the COLORS being the key word in your phrase

[DarthHias]

A match is not lost until the last Mech is dead. Just fight. What ego problems can people have that a loss ends with the destruction of their mech? It´s no different than dying mid fight.

I once one an 7:1 in a damaged Firestarter. Best game of my life. According to some I should have ran to an edge and overheat suicided?

Edited by DarthHias, 15 December 2015 - 02:19 PM.

[Malagant]

I just love how everyone thinks it's a real choice whether to accept the CoC, TSA, or whatever since it is basically holding your account in blackmail. "agree to this or lose all your stuff you paid money for". It's criminal...

[Revis Volek]

Malagant, on 15 December 2015 - 02:21 PM, said:

I just love how everyone thinks it's a real choice whether to accept the CoC, TSA, or whatever since it is basically holding your account in blackmail. "agree to this or lose all your stuff you paid money for". It's criminal...

That was the terms BEFORE this new CoC came out...if you didn't notice it well then shame on you.

Just because they change it and make you agree to a new one doesn't really mean diddly, they can take your toys away at any time without any warning. I guess you missed that part of the CoC THAT HASN'T CHANGED SINCE FOREVER.

They reserve all rights to their property, your reserve none.

[Tyler Valentine]

DarthHias, on 15 December 2015 - 02:18 PM, said:

A match is not lost until the last Mech is dead. Just fight. What ego problems can people have that a loss ends with the destruction of their mech? It´s no different than dying mid fight.

I once one an 7:1 in a damaged Firestarter. Best game of my life. According to some I should have ran to an edge and overheat suicided?

7 on 1, Jesus... Won a 4 v 1 one time and my heart was pounding in my ears! Got the Ace of Spades on that one too

[Troutmonkey]

New rules regarding non-participation

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Shutting Down your ‘Mech or avoiding engagements with the enemy, and when doing so might be considered non-participation
All pilots have access to a Shutdown command for their ‘Mechs, mapped by default to the ‘P’ key and listed as ‘Toggle Power’ in the keyboard menu.
The primary benefit to shutting down your ‘Mech is that it will no longer appear on enemy radar. In the deciding moments of a close match with few ‘Mechs left standing on the battlefield, effective use of the shutdown mechanic and/or evasion tactics has the potential to provide you with the following benefits:
• Breaking a target lock
• Appearing ‘heat neutral’ on maps where Thermal Vision might commonly be used
• Presenting on opportunity for staging an ambush
• Evading detection long enough to secure a win through Conquest points
• Evading detection long enough to secure a timer expiration win when you have superior numbers, in circumstances where you may be too critically damaged to otherwise risk a direct engagement with the enemy
The above situations are considered to be within the scope of what the shutdown mechanic or evasion tactics are intended to be used for.
There are situations that do not fall within the scope of what the shutdown mechanic or evasion tactics are intended for. The use of the shutdown mechanic or avoiding contact with the enemy under the following situations may be classed as an act of non-participation, subject to evaluation and moderation actions by Support services:
• Ceasing to meaningfully contribute for the remainder of the match if you still have support equipment, useful modules, or weapons (with any necessary ammo) available. Losing your primary weapon is not an acceptable excuse for hiding and/or shutting down if you still have a secondary weapon, a support-based item such as a TAG, or a consumable module available for use.
• Running out the clock, or needlessly extending the duration of the match, in cases where doing so will not assist you towards victory.
• Running out the clock or needlessly extending the duration of a Faction Play match in an attempt to keep a particular group or Unit in the current engagement for as long as possible, in cases where doing so will not assist you towards victory, is not considered an acceptable tactic.
Disliking a map or game mode or attempting to preserve a player statistic such as Kill/Death Ratio are not acceptable excuses for non-participation.

Edited by Troutmonkey, 15 December 2015 - 02:55 PM.

[Mystere]

Troutmonkey, on 15 December 2015 - 02:54 PM, said:

New rules regarding non-participation

Take note of the use of the words "might" and "may" instead of "is" and "will".

[DarkMetalBlade]

DarthHias, on 15 December 2015 - 02:18 PM, said:

A match is not lost until the last Mech is dead. Just fight.

The bloodfrenzy is strong in this one, methinks.

What's the point of fighting on when you're hopelessly outnumbered, severely damaged &/or have little in the way of weaponry?

[Bilbo]

Mystere, on 15 December 2015 - 03:00 PM, said:

Take note of the use of the words &quot;might&quot; and &quot;may&quot; instead of &quot;is&quot; and &quot;will&quot;.

Those words probably don't have the same meaning to those you "might" be trying to convince.

[LORD ORION]

Accidentally suiciding because of the poorly designed grimo portico boundaries is now a bannable offence!

[Troutmonkey]

LORD ORION, on 15 December 2015 - 03:10 PM, said:

Accidentally suiciding because of the poorly designed grimo portico boundaries is now a bannable offence!

Only if you're stupid enough to repeatedly do it.

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Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me