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#41 Euklides

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Posted 16 December 2015 - 09:31 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 16 December 2015 - 09:28 AM, said:

And I do pretty good with LB-20x..


Nnngnhng, Please tell me this means that you tried double lbx20?

I... I, I want to know. For... For science, if it sounds twice as sexy as one lbx20?

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Posted 16 December 2015 - 09:34 AM

View PostLugh, on 16 December 2015 - 09:31 AM, said:

Absolutely. I'll be sad to see that initial streak get rolled over by the more than common too many Idjit Simpletons not playing as team going forward, but this is my favorite setup since the Marauder with 2 UAC5s Posted Image

man, that MArauder is the most bittersweet thing.... my superstock 3R plays almost exactly how I had always hoped it would..... but then everytime I see one, I think of a bulimic King Crab, NOT a Marauder. I really can not, for the life of me comprehend the people calling it "beautiful" etc. The new "official" TT one by Shimmering Sword is 10x more a Marauder than this one.

IMO, it's one of Alex's few misfires. Posted Image

View PostEuklides, on 16 December 2015 - 09:31 AM, said:


Nnngnhng, Please tell me this means that you tried double lbx20?

I... I, I want to know. For... For science, if it sounds twice as sexy as one lbx20?

haven't run nay on the HBK yet. My clan account, my preferred stormcrow has a single one for over a year. Sorry mang.

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Posted 16 December 2015 - 09:39 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 16 December 2015 - 09:34 AM, said:

man, that MArauder is the most bittersweet thing.... my superstock 3R plays almost exactly how I had always hoped it would..... but then everytime I see one, I think of a bulimic King Crab, NOT a Marauder. I really can not, for the life of me comprehend the people calling it "beautiful" etc. The new "official" TT one by Shimmering Sword is 10x more a Marauder than this one.

IMO, it's one of Alex's few misfires. Posted Image


haven't run nay on the HBK yet. My clan account, my preferred stormcrow has a single one for over a year. Sorry mang.


I was commenting to my friend the other night that the Locust is the pupae stage, the Crab is the adolescent, the Marauder is the Mature and the King Crab is the prime Adult.... think about it.

Saw you play that Hunchie last night Bishop and though I got owned in my Crab way too early, it looked like if pilots don't try and be the mainline attacker (as with any medium) then they will do well in them. I could see them being guard dogs for dire wolfs and warhawks and just pushing a lane hard.

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Posted 16 December 2015 - 09:40 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 16 December 2015 - 09:34 AM, said:

haven't run nay on the HBK yet. My clan account, my preferred stormcrow has a single one for over a year. Sorry mang.


Darn-it.

I mean, since you were gifted the pack why would you not have tried such a beauty right off the bat?
Its like when the nova came, I could not stop thinking of 12 flamers.
These are things that just has to be done.

Edited by Euklides, 16 December 2015 - 09:43 AM.


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Posted 16 December 2015 - 09:44 AM

I gotta wait for the C-Bill Hunchy II to come out, some promising builds on smurphy.

By the way the hunchy quirks may have spoiled you a bit. Before the armor quirks on the Hunchies, I was really quick on that Torso twist, after the Quirks I get a little lazy sometimes since they can take a few more hits. Just put yourself in the mindset of pre Quirked Hunchies, and those things should dominate.

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Posted 16 December 2015 - 09:49 AM

View PostEuklides, on 16 December 2015 - 09:40 AM, said:


Darn-it.

I mean, since you were gifted the pack why would you not have tried such a beauty right off the bat?
Its like when the nova came, I could not stop thinking of 12 flamers.
These are things that just has to be done.

Cuz Hunchies b seriuz biznez?

Almost any other chassis I can goof with... Hunchies and Centies are too sacred.......

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Posted 16 December 2015 - 09:49 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 16 December 2015 - 09:34 AM, said:

man, that MArauder is the most bittersweet thing.... my superstock 3R plays almost exactly how I had always hoped it would..... but then everytime I see one, I think of a bulimic King Crab, NOT a Marauder. I really can not, for the life of me comprehend the people calling it "beautiful" etc. The new "official" TT one by Shimmering Sword is 10x more a Marauder than this one.

IMO, it's one of Alex's few misfires. Posted Image


Because everyone's tastes are different. Where you see a "bulimic KC", I see one of the best looking Heavies in the game and a re-imagining of a mech that makes it less of a lanky alien pod with pipe cleaner extremities and bell bottoms, and more like a real MWO/Battletech style mech.

I know we disagree on this, but looks are subjective. No real right or wrong answer...for the most part.

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Posted 16 December 2015 - 09:50 AM

View PostSovietArmada, on 16 December 2015 - 09:44 AM, said:

I gotta wait for the C-Bill Hunchy II to come out, some promising builds on smurphy.

By the way the hunchy quirks may have spoiled you a bit. Before the armor quirks on the Hunchies, I was really quick on that Torso twist, after the Quirks I get a little lazy sometimes since they can take a few more hits. Just put yourself in the mindset of pre Quirked Hunchies, and those things should dominate.

there is some truth to that, though as a longtime CN9 w/BFG pilot, "flinching" is in my DNA, lol. Hard part is with UACs you gotta face the music for a second or two.... with my trusty kaliyama big bore on my ol 4G, it's poke, shoot and scoot.

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Posted 16 December 2015 - 09:54 AM

View PostMeiSooHaityu, on 16 December 2015 - 09:49 AM, said:


Because everyone's tastes are different. Where you see a "bulimic KC", I see one of the best looking Heavies in the game and a re-imagining of a mech that makes it less of a lanky alien pod with pipe cleaner extremities and bell bottoms, and more like a real MWO/Battletech style mech.

I know we disagree on this, but looks are subjective. No real right or wrong answer...for the most part.

original marauder
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MWO Marauder
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trust me... i really wish it was somewhere in between:
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any questions?

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Posted 16 December 2015 - 09:57 AM

As funny as that is Bishop, I still disagree with you Posted Image .

When I see the original Marauder, this is all I can think of...
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Edited by MeiSooHaityu, 16 December 2015 - 09:59 AM.


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Posted 16 December 2015 - 12:06 PM

https://twitter.com/...216189307748352
and PGI agrees...the arms? Well, don't worry about armoring them, lol.

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Posted 16 December 2015 - 12:13 PM

View PostMeiSooHaityu, on 16 December 2015 - 09:57 AM, said:

As funny as that is Bishop, I still disagree with you Posted Image .

When I see the original Marauder, this is all I can think of...
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and I'm saying redesigns like this
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or this
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would, IMO opinion have been preferable to the goodyear blimp.

But then, I have long been the guy who didn't like Shimmering Swords version, because of the bloat..and since this is pretty much an homage to it....

Suffice it to say, in most cases, I prefer Alex's rendition... the MAD is one where I'll take SS's "Official" battletech redesign.

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Posted 16 December 2015 - 12:42 PM

View PostEuklides, on 16 December 2015 - 09:31 AM, said:


Nnngnhng, Please tell me this means that you tried double lbx20?

I... I, I want to know. For... For science, if it sounds twice as sexy as one lbx20?


It was Lulzy

I'll give it a try after Speed Tweak. 38 rounds, 71Kph+7.5%

It cored a Jenner IIC outright, which is strange. Couldn't get the kill, of course, because RNGeesus CoF.

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Posted 16 December 2015 - 12:55 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 16 December 2015 - 09:28 AM, said:

I wish the LB-20x had the knockdown ability they had in MW4. Used to love unloading my double barreled LB-20X into things, watch them flop, then kill them while they were down.


You and I both know that if PGI implemented a damage based knockdown feature, this community will literally implode and collapse into a singularity of pure rage, devouring any and all opinions that wander too close (positive and negative), and spew powerful bursts of salt and tears in random directions that will completely obliterate anything that is unfortunate enough to be in the way.

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Posted 16 December 2015 - 01:01 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 16 December 2015 - 12:06 PM, said:

https://twitter.com/...216189307748352
and PGI agrees...the arms? Well, don't worry about armoring them, lol.

They get shot off by teammates NP at all, all the time ...

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Posted 16 December 2015 - 01:44 PM

View PostAresye Kerensky, on 16 December 2015 - 12:55 PM, said:


You and I both know that if PGI implemented a damage based knockdown feature, this community will literally implode and collapse into a singularity of pure rage, devouring any and all opinions that wander too close (positive and negative), and spew powerful bursts of salt and tears in random directions that will completely obliterate anything that is unfortunate enough to be in the way.

so...business as usual?

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Posted 16 December 2015 - 04:02 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 16 December 2015 - 07:34 AM, said:

well, it can put up splashy numbers, but 5-6 SRM4s will actually be more efficient at killing with their much tighter than even artemis SRM6 firing patterns.

And it is still squishy as heck. Good backstabber, pretty weak open field fighter, though.


I don't disagree at all. The 6 cSRM4 version is the definitely the better mech. More ammo, JJ, can hit stuff past 50 meters... but sometimes you just need a sledgehammer

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Posted 16 December 2015 - 04:07 PM

View PostGas Guzzler, on 16 December 2015 - 08:33 AM, said:


Even the 6 SRM2 version had heat issues for me. Granted, I was too cheap to downgrade the engine, but still.


Swap the XL270 from the Highlander in there and swap the xl315 into the highlander.

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Posted 16 December 2015 - 05:21 PM

I love the HBK-IICs, and I find them fairly balanced against the originals.

HBK-4G > HBK-IIC

Just the structure buffs alone on the HBK-4G make it a dangerous *******. Just to get that AC20 to fall off takes 100 points of damage from the front to do so. And the agility buffs it got makes them hard to core. While the IIC version only needs 70 points of damage for it to go, and if it loses that left side torso, it slows down and heats up FAST.


HBK-4P = HBK-IIC-A

I feel these two are pretty equal, but have vastly differing jobs. The shorter range, shorter burn time, cooler lasers, and tanky quirks on the 4P make it much, much more dangerous in a brawl. While the naturally longer ranged Clan lasers make the IIC a far better poke mech.


HBK-4J/HBK-4SP > HBK-IIC-B(SRMs)/HBK-IIC-B(LRMs)

For missile hunchies, the 4SP is the far superior SRM brawler with it's wicked velocity buffs and doubled structure. It can just flat out-DPS the IIC and weather hits better. For LRMs, even with the half-weight LRMs, again the 4J is just an LRM monster. Sure, double IS LRM-10s are kinda paltry on paper, but 45% increased ROF for them on the 4J with a cooldown and that they all hit at once makes them extremely dangerous because the DPS of the two goes from 5 to 7.25, while the DPS on the triple cLRM-15s on the IIC 8.19, but it spreads out far more than the IS LRM-10s.


Either way, the IICs are good. But the quirks on the originals gives them an a slight edge over the IICs. And the the original's quirks force them into usually a VERY specific role, while the IIC models can be a bit more generalized.

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Posted 16 December 2015 - 06:13 PM

View PostMcgral18, on 16 December 2015 - 12:42 PM, said:


It was Lulzy

I'll give it a try after Speed Tweak. 38 rounds, 71Kph+7.5%

It cored a Jenner IIC outright, which is strange. Couldn't get the kill, of course, because RNGeesus CoF.


You are performing a great cause, for the collective epicness.

Looking at the speed and rounds, that is a xl205 engine untweeked or a xl220 tweeked with 5.5t ammo? Either way why not get the quicker engine for no cost at all? C-bill strain? and perhaps a laser instead of 3 shots worth of 0.5tons (stupid reduction of uneven ammocounts, why not give the lbx20 8 shots to make it easy, instead of 7... Questions that will never be answered...) ? ^^

The one that I've been drooling over is with a xl225 with 5ton ammo and 2 smalls for backup

Edited by Euklides, 16 December 2015 - 06:15 PM.






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