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#101 Dawnstealer

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Posted 17 December 2015 - 06:13 AM

View PostHawkie 1, on 17 December 2015 - 04:28 AM, said:

Am I the only one who thinks this mech is a bad idea?
We already have alot of LRm spamming mechs, we don't need more
(catapult, I'm looking at you)

*eyes Hawkie, slowly charges up TAG*

#102 K19

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Posted 17 December 2015 - 06:24 AM

oi oi more one !!!!!! A simple point!A simple point! The doors of the missiles have to open not forget that, since the vast majority of mech do nothing to not be the catapult another note need "splax"Posted Image plz

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Posted 17 December 2015 - 06:28 AM

View Postgh0s7m3rc, on 16 December 2015 - 02:00 PM, said:


... Spread throughout the mech, while the A1 has them all on the arms, FWIW. Plus, Jump Jets. Posted Image

That will be my new light-hunter, with 9 (NINE) Streaks!
*evil laugh*

j/k

No JJs on any Archer.
There will also be those trying to fit as many SRMs on it as possible, once they hit the 4 max GH SRM4/6s, they will add SRM2s.
How many SRMs can it pack to make a deadly SRM Brawler?

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Posted 17 December 2015 - 06:39 AM

View PostDawnstealer, on 17 December 2015 - 06:13 AM, said:

*eyes Hawkie, slowly charges up TAG*

*fires PPC because a Tag is easy to track*

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Posted 17 December 2015 - 08:57 AM

I knew if I waited long enough she would show up !! Got it as soon as I saw it. I am a support person and have tried to play that role since closed beta. I hope this mech will live up to the hipe. I can't wait to give it a try on the battlefield. I have always had a thing for the kell hounds so this IS mech should be great.

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Posted 17 December 2015 - 09:05 AM

View PostXhaleon, on 17 December 2015 - 05:29 AM, said:

I haven't followed very much in way of lore discussion over the years for this, but doesn't this basically confirm that Morgan's Phantom Mech ability WAS indeed a Guardian ECM doing its Jesusbox magic? Then again, making a pro-pilot miss every shot at close range is even more miraculous than our own Jesusbox.

There is only one explanation: Yorinaga Kurita disconnected.

EDIT: and this battle was before the Oceanic Servers... poor Yorinaga must had an awful ping...

Edited by Odanan, 19 December 2015 - 10:19 AM.


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Posted 17 December 2015 - 09:12 AM

View PostHawkie 1, on 17 December 2015 - 04:28 AM, said:

Am I the only one who thinks this mech is a bad idea?
We already have alot of LRm spamming mechs, we don't need more
(catapult, I'm looking at you)

Well, it will behave differently of the Catapult.
Catapult will always be faster, have jumpjets and hopefully better hitboxes (after the resize). Archer is all about firepower.

Besides, PGI needs to keep releasing ~1 new mech/month to pay their bills. What's better than the Unseen mechs?

#108 Malleus011

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Posted 17 December 2015 - 09:14 AM

The Unseen well is only so deep; I hope they're enjoying the sales.

Looking forward to the rest of them.

#109 Arkhangel

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Posted 17 December 2015 - 10:20 AM

View PostMalleus011, on 17 December 2015 - 09:14 AM, said:

The Unseen well is only so deep; I hope they're enjoying the sales.

Looking forward to the rest of them.

they know that. part of the reason they're focusing on them right now, though, is the fact they've got that art-sharing deal with Jordan Weisman and Harebrained Schemes. probably wanna pump out the unseen models so they can get put into the turn-based 3025 BattleTech game they've got in the works. Actually slightly calling that we might see a four-mech pack of the Stinger/Wasp/Valkyrie, Phoenix Hawk, Crusader, and Longbow.

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Posted 17 December 2015 - 11:04 AM

View PostHawkie 1, on 17 December 2015 - 06:39 AM, said:

*fires PPC because a Tag is easy to track*

*curses unfair universe, logs onto forum to call for nerfing of clan ppcs*

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Posted 17 December 2015 - 01:14 PM

View PostHawkie 1, on 17 December 2015 - 04:28 AM, said:

Am I the only one who thinks this mech is a bad idea?
We already have alot of LRm spamming mechs, we don't need more
(catapult, I'm looking at you)


Most people won't boat lrm's on it, they'll boat srms and make it a splatboat.

#112 Lucy Cameron

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Posted 17 December 2015 - 02:57 PM

Thankyouthankyouthankyouthankyou!! Posted Image

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Posted 17 December 2015 - 05:16 PM

View PostMuzMuzMuz, on 17 December 2015 - 04:17 AM, said:



That said, I don't like the design choice to put the cockpit so low in the belly. whilst it follows the later TRO's and unseen artworks by lore - the original archer had the head above the torso.




Not entirely correct. The Archer from the original 3025 technical readout and the 3050 technical readouts showed the cockpit in the center torso area quite clearly, as did the 'reseen' redesigns from the Project Phoenix.

http://www.solaris7....Info.asp?ID=560
http://www.solaris7....Info.asp?ID=683
http://www.solaris7....nfo.asp?ID=4466

So, the Archer in MWO is completely in line with the Archer as introduced and used in Battletech, rather than the related mech from the anime series that inspired it (which did have a top-mounted cockpit, and which was used for the early miniature models and some early artwork as the artists probably didn't have the technical readout book to refer to while doing their work).

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Posted 17 December 2015 - 08:16 PM

View PostJakob Knight, on 17 December 2015 - 05:16 PM, said:


Not entirely correct. The Archer from the original 3025 technical readout and the 3050 technical readouts showed the cockpit in the center torso area quite clearly, as did the 'reseen' redesigns from the Project Phoenix.

http://www.solaris7....Info.asp?ID=560
http://www.solaris7....Info.asp?ID=683
http://www.solaris7....nfo.asp?ID=4466

So, the Archer in MWO is completely in line with the Archer as introduced and used in Battletech, rather than the related mech from the anime series that inspired it (which did have a top-mounted cockpit, and which was used for the early miniature models and some early artwork as the artists probably didn't have the technical readout book to refer to while doing their work).

that and the Spartan Destroid has a CT-mounted gun.

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Posted 18 December 2015 - 04:58 AM

Does it come with a "Ghost Mech" quirk? Posted Image

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Posted 18 December 2015 - 10:14 AM

The Canadian dollar sucks right now so again, I will have to pass. Posted Image

(eg. $100 USD is about $130 CAD)

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Posted 18 December 2015 - 10:22 AM

View PostCyclonerM, on 18 December 2015 - 04:58 AM, said:

Does it come with a "Ghost Mech" quirk? Posted Image

It comes with ECM, so...kinda?

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Posted 18 December 2015 - 12:23 PM

View PostOdanan, on 17 December 2015 - 04:20 AM, said:

Weapons in the legs are moved to the side torso in MWO (see Cicada), which makes a lot of sense.


Ahh, drat. Just thought it would be cool lol, cuz I mean the Wasp left leg SRM2 was technically attached to the hip, so it's not like the hardpoint would be too much lower than the side torso. But yea I agree, it makes sense to move it to the LT too.

View PostWidowmaker1981, on 17 December 2015 - 12:47 AM, said:


Not really. It will be ok, but crotch level cockpit is going to suck, as are probably knuckle dragging arms that contain all your firepower. Its got ECM, sure.. but not P2W. P2W means "if i buy this im going to win way more than if i don't" not "if i buy this i will have something slightly different, but not as good as free options"

Im certainly not buying it.


Having an ECM missile boat for MC-only is pay2win, not really arguable by any means lol. People WILL increase their k/d ratios significantly after purchasing this, will definitely be the best option as far as the 70-ton mechs are concerned. Bar none.

I'm not purchasing it either. I've gotta save my money right now, would only drop some cash on a Warhammer IIC. But if I was dead set on buying the best mechs this game has to offer (and I know a lot of people here have THAT mindset), I would be dumber than a sack of nails to not buy this mech. For a 70-ton mech, this is a beast.

Edited by Repasy, 18 December 2015 - 12:31 PM.


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Posted 18 December 2015 - 01:51 PM

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