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#1 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 18 December 2015 - 09:03 AM

For you Poor Ladies, too.

Mind you, I am sure many of my fellow forumites know this already, but just realized there are quite a few who do not. I didn't until I decided to try it, this weekend.

When grinding up a new Chassis, one of the greatest expenses, is that shiny new XL engine to put in them. And one of the biggest annoyances, is having that mech locked in match.... c'mon, time is money GIMME MAH MECH!!!! (it's often cited as one of the big reasons people think it's OK to be impatient douchnozzles after they die... c'mon man, I'm grinding bro!)

Anyhow, the point? You can unequip and swap your engines, weapons etc from a mech locked in match, in the Mechlab, equip it to a different chassis, and go.


I'm grinding my HBK-IICs this weekend, and last night, my Beta was stuck in match (I derped into a lance of Cheaters in the first 2 minutes. Ouchy!) and so had a long wait ahead to go. And being spacepoor, I don't have shiny individual engines for each Variant. So, on a whim, knowing you can modify mechs locked in match, I pulled the engine from the Beta, hit save, popped it into my Alpha, hit save, the "Quickplay" and in under 60 seconds was busy grinding another variant.

So, for you Space Sages who are already omniscient...we're happy for you, truly (why didn't ya share ya greedy scrooges!!! Posted Image ), but for my fellow space poor and to new guys, etc: Don't worry about popping 4-7 million a pop and buying 3 shiny new XLs for grinding... or only grinding one model at a time (and thus having to wait). Swap that engine and go!

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 18 December 2015 - 12:13 PM.


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Posted 18 December 2015 - 09:16 AM

Yeah, we've been able to do this for a long time now. It's good to let people know, though, because it certainly wasn't always this way.

Being space-poor myself as well, it's something that sees a lot of use; particularly when grinding new chassis.

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Posted 18 December 2015 - 09:22 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 18 December 2015 - 09:03 AM, said:

For you Poor Ladies, too.

Mind you, I am sure many of my fellow forumites know this already, but just realized there are quite a few who do not. I didn't until I decided to try it, this weekend.

When grinding up a new Chassis, one of the greatest expenses, is that shiny new XL engine to put in them. And one of the biggest annoyances, is having that mech locked in match.... c'mon, time is money GIMME MAH MECH!!!! (it's often cited as one of the big reasons people think it's OK to be impatient douchnozzles after they die... c'mon man, I'm grinding bro!)

Anyhow, the point? You can unequip and swap your engines, weapons etc from a mech locked in match, in the Mechlab, equip it to a different chassis, and go.


I'm grinding my HBK-IICs this weekend, and last night, my Beta was stuck in match (I derped into a lance of Cheaters in the first 2 minutes. Ouchy!) and so had a long wait ahead to go. And being spacepoor, I don't have shiny individual engines for each Variant. So, on a whim, knowing you can modify mechs locked in match, I pulled the engine from the Beta, hit save, popped it into my Alpha, hit save, the "Quickplay" and in under 60 seconds was busy grinding another variant.

So, for you Space Sages who are already omniscient...we're happy for you, truly, but for my fellow space poor and to new guys, etc: Don't worry about popping 4-7 million a pop and buying 3 shiny new XLs for grinding... or only grinding one model at a time (and thus having to wait). Swap that engine and go!


Been doin it like that since beta bro.

Then did the same for modules when they came out, can even do it for weapons if you were really poor. Didn't want to pay for all the C-ECM when I got my Shadow Cats? How about all that CAP? Swapped.

Gotta be a grind king in the PUG life.

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Posted 18 December 2015 - 09:23 AM

Oh snap! I just assumed you couldn't touch those guys with the 'in game' stripe across them. This will most certainly help me level these IIC mechs. Cheers!

#5 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 18 December 2015 - 09:24 AM

View PostDakota1000, on 18 December 2015 - 09:22 AM, said:


Been doin it like that since beta bro.

Then did the same for modules when they came out, can even do it for weapons if you were really poor. Didn't want to pay for all the C-ECM when I got my Shadow Cats? How about all that CAP? Swapped.

Gotta be a grind king in the PUG life.

Uh...you couldn't modify "Mech in match" in beta.......

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Posted 18 December 2015 - 09:27 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 18 December 2015 - 09:24 AM, said:

Uh...you couldn't modify "Mech in match" in beta.......


Still swapped around engines when they weren't in use at least. Darn my memory is hazy...

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Posted 18 December 2015 - 09:31 AM

..

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WUT DAFUQ...

I feel like an idiot for never trying it. I just assumed it would be locked in match.... so much time wasted....

Something that slipped through the cracks in patch notes one day?

Edited by Roughneck45, 18 December 2015 - 09:32 AM.


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Posted 18 December 2015 - 09:33 AM

View PostDakota1000, on 18 December 2015 - 09:27 AM, said:


Still swapped around engines when they weren't in use at least. Darn my memory is hazy...

Yeah, but defeats the "poor man" thing..since it implies wout have extra laying around. This is being able to take that one engine you own, and even while that mech is in match, swap it to any other chassis, and go. Until they added the "Modify in match" functionality a couple months ago, this was literally impossible, to the best of my knowledge.

View PostRoughneck45, on 18 December 2015 - 09:31 AM, said:

..

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WUT DAFUQ...

I feel like an idiot for never trying it. I just assumed it would be locked in match.... so much time wasted....

Something that slipped through the cracks in patch notes one day?

Well, don't think it was actually really mentioned in the Patch Notes. It was mentioned you could modify mechs that were in match, but for some reason I never thought about stripping and reusing gear. But boy has it been a boon this weekend on my IICs!

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Posted 18 December 2015 - 09:35 AM

Engines, modules, that First Gauss rifle you bought....

All can be switched WHILE the mech is IN GAME.


I never thought to enlighten the community with this because i figured everybody just tries to break stuff all the time like i do anyway. lolz

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Posted 18 December 2015 - 09:38 AM

Keep in mind this was not always true; I think it changed only sometime in the past year. Before, mechs were locked in matches and you couldn't edit them. Thankfully, now you can play with loadouts, swap engines, etc.

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Posted 18 December 2015 - 09:38 AM

So they should really just let us unlock each engine and assign the unlocked engines to whichever mechs.

Since you can only play one at a time.

I guess CW might need to be a little different, but.....

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Posted 18 December 2015 - 09:44 AM

Modules are the BIG thing to retrieve for me when I wish to move on. Although I do like to ride along most Matches because sometimes great things do happen, even after you die. ;)

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Posted 18 December 2015 - 09:52 AM

View Postoldradagast, on 18 December 2015 - 09:38 AM, said:

Keep in mind this was not always true; I think it changed only sometime in the past year. Before, mechs were locked in matches and you couldn't edit them. Thankfully, now you can play with loadouts, swap engines, etc.



It started with the new UI, UI2.5 or whatever....when they brought back the mech tiles on the main screen instead of that unsightly list of mech names.

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Posted 18 December 2015 - 09:56 AM

View PostRussianWolf, on 18 December 2015 - 09:38 AM, said:

So they should really just let us unlock each engine and assign the unlocked engines to whichever mechs.

Since you can only play one at a time.

I guess CW might need to be a little different, but.....

KISS:
Gotta keep simple functionality between the two, so yeah, CW makes it so... and I'm sure this was an "unintended consequence" since it allows one to shortcut the grind... and f2p model is very against shortcutting the grind!

View PostAlmond Brown, on 18 December 2015 - 09:44 AM, said:

Modules are the BIG thing to retrieve for me when I wish to move on. Although I do like to ride along most Matches because sometimes great things do happen, even after you die. Posted Image

depends on my mood...and how the team has played to that point. Too often it's pretty obvious it's going to be a 10+ minute snooze fest of peeking and poking.

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Posted 18 December 2015 - 09:58 AM

Well, THANKS A LOT BISHOP.

I'm thinking PGI didn't know about this either. They probably intended to let us tinker in the lab, but not switch parts to a different mech.

There's no good rationale for them letting us do this, as they want us spending our c-bills on extra engines, etc. Now they will likely get someone on "fixing" this oversight ASAP.

That's it...Christmas is ruined.

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Posted 18 December 2015 - 10:00 AM

View PostRoughneck45, on 18 December 2015 - 09:31 AM, said:

..

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WUT DAFUQ...

I feel like an idiot for never trying it. I just assumed it would be locked in match.... so much time wasted....

Something that slipped through the cracks in patch notes one day?

Don't beat yourself up, I was the same way. I knew I could edit them, but for some reason engine swapping while a mech was still in a match was a mental blind spot for me. I guess on some level I assumed it couldn't be done because in some weird logical way it didn't make sense.

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Posted 18 December 2015 - 10:03 AM

We should really have saved variants, but most of my mechs sit without the modded engine equipped. If you get too many of one engine, you can sell them too. Just keep in mind your drop deck in CW needs mechs that are fully equipped.

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Posted 18 December 2015 - 10:17 AM

View PostLightfoot, on 18 December 2015 - 10:03 AM, said:

We should really have saved variants, but most of my mechs sit without the modded engine equipped. If you get too many of one engine, you can sell them too. Just keep in mind your drop deck in CW needs mechs that are fully equipped.

good reminders.

This is mostly for space poor, noobs and other grinders, but good to remember for those who will want to play CW eventually.... some engine duplication can be a good thing, when you can afford it. Just don't let it hold you back before then. Spend those cbills on modifying the actual mech, adding DHS, etc, not buying another engine.

When you can afford it? Multiples of 255xls, 280s, 300s, 325, 340, 350s, usually cover most popular (non light mech) engine needs.

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Posted 18 December 2015 - 10:20 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 18 December 2015 - 09:33 AM, said:

Yeah, but defeats the "poor man" thing..since it implies wout have extra laying around.


I meant when the mech wasn't in use.

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Posted 18 December 2015 - 10:21 AM

I forgot the other parts of my post....

1) BISHOP DIED??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? how is that possible? and 2 minutes in even??? In a Hunchie???????? Say it ain't so man.

and

2) Cash poor. how can you be cash poor after playing this game as long as you have.





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