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I keep reading comments like:
- Man, IIC mechs die so easily. I feel like a glass cannon. [myth: Clan XL provides god mode survivability. IS structure buffs easily equal Clan XL side blow out]
- Man, IIC mechs are so sluggish [myth: Clan mechs get free agility buffs from their engines. They forget that clan mechs pay for it in huge tonnage costs. Yes clans get the speed at XL tonnage costs, but most clan mechs are so over-buffed on engine that they have small payloads for weapons. Take a look at the gargoyle, Executioner, shadowcat, etc. The only exception is the Direwolf and it pays for it with ridiculous turn rate/angle. You know what is a free agility buff? Free agility Quirk buffs that cost no tonnage. Once you start lowering the engine to get more tonnage for more weapons, your agility loses out.]
- Man, where are ma' quirks [IS pilots are addicted to quirks. It's expected now. It's like my kids who can't conceive of a world without the internet or cell phones. Not having quirks is like an ice bucket shower to them. No quirks, trivial/token quirks or even negative quirks are what the other clan mechs get.]
- Man, they are gonna add quirks right? Eventually? [Unless things radically change, clans mechs only ever get trivial quirks, if any at all. You're not going to get IS level structure and accel/decel quirks on your IIC mechs. Sorry. Just no. LOL. If you want that extra maneuverability, pay for it with engine tonnage like all the other clan mechs. As for structure quirks, you're just gonna have to live with that. Hate to break it to ya, but yeah.....]
- Man, I paid good RL money for these, now I feel ripped off [You should. You got exactly what you deserved, which is a taste of your own medicine. Karma is a @#$(. You reap what you sow.]
Edit: Added quotes per request...
Coolant, on 22 December 2015 - 08:23 PM, said:
Sounds like there is quite a crowd and many comments from those that are the "pro-IS/nerf-the-p2w-clans" and also pilot the IIC's. I'd really like to hear some of those comments. Go ahead and link them so we can read.
IIC mechs suck:
Killian Kell, on 22 December 2015 - 07:42 AM, said:
I absolutely do, and I regret the C-bills spent to equip them, it would have been much better spent buying regular mechs. I get that the devs wanted to do the whole 'glass cannon' thing because clan tech is supposed to be soooo much better, (or used to be), but they aren't even glass cannons, more like paper. If you so much as look at the Jenny IIc mean it's cored or has components fly off it. The Hunchy and Orion(y) aren't much better..yes I also know that in lore, (as if that matters AT ALL anymore), they were also reserve or 3rd line throw away mechs so they wouldn't be as good as front line Clan Mechs, But why does that mean that they have so much less survivability than their IS counter parts.
So yeah, I regret spending real and virtual money on them. I guess on the bright side, they didn't start out awesome only get nerfed to uselessness later. DOA.
So yeah, I regret spending real and virtual money on them. I guess on the bright side, they didn't start out awesome only get nerfed to uselessness later. DOA.
Rhaythe, on 22 December 2015 - 10:18 AM, said:
Regret? Sure. But this is an open-development free-to-play game that receives bi-monthly updates. Spending money on anything in this game without the realization that it is subject to balance changes is just ill-advised.
Lucian Nostra, on 22 December 2015 - 08:36 AM, said:
I wont say I regret it but they didn't live up to all the hype being thrown at them for sure.
Alistair Winter, on 22 December 2015 - 08:21 AM, said:
On paper, the Jenner IIC is the bee's knees. Endo + Ferro + Big engine, up to 6 energy / missile hardpoints, as many jump jets as you want, and it' in that sweet 35 ton spot that Clanners have been waiting for. The shape of the Jenner isn't ideal, but every other factor is basically perfect, as far as I can tell. I wasn't expecting it to be super incredible, but I wasn't expecting so many people to struggle with it either.
Maybe it's just people who aren't used to playing light mechs, so they thought the Jenner IIC would be an I-win button like the ACH used to be, pre-nerf.
Maybe it's just people who aren't used to playing light mechs, so they thought the Jenner IIC would be an I-win button like the ACH used to be, pre-nerf.
Clan XL will not save you:
Bishop Steiner, on 20 December 2015 - 10:47 PM, said:
So, with only a couple short detours, I have been driving my HBK-IICs almost exclusively. Figured I'd try to get them mastered (IRL has not let me do that yet, though my Alpha is almost there).
Impressions?
Cons:
-Despite the Clan XL, they are VERY fragile.
The issue? You can't really play them like an IS Hunchback. They are too delicate to brawl.
Impressions?
Cons:
-Despite the Clan XL, they are VERY fragile.
The issue? You can't really play them like an IS Hunchback. They are too delicate to brawl.
PS WrathOfDeadguy, on 21 December 2015 - 09:42 AM, said:
C-XL doesn't seem to increase my survivability by much at all in these.
Ultimatum X, on 22 December 2015 - 08:15 AM, said:
So yeah, he is within his right to regret sending cash to PGI for mechs that crumple and die too easy.
IIC mechs should have quirks:
DjPush, on 21 December 2015 - 10:40 AM, said:
All the IIC mechs need structure and armor quirks. Not much, just a smidge. Except for the Jenner. That mech can suck it. Nerf the hell out of that little OP monster.
IIC mechs will eventually get quirks:
Ryokens leap, on 22 December 2015 - 08:47 AM, said:
Expect them to get quirked before they go on sale for mc.
Edited by Grimm Peaper, 22 December 2015 - 10:51 PM.
