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[Malagant]

Scratx, on 26 December 2015 - 07:45 PM, said:

Okay, I'll bite.



Okay, let's see. ERML is 405m. 70% of that is 283m. And it's still significantly hotter and with a much longer beam duration time for somewhat more damage overall.

In other words, you want to take out the Extended Range out of Extended Range <Laser type> from the Clan side.

Are you starting to get why that idea is a non-starter yet?

And let's not forget IS mechs often have energy/laser range quirks that shorten or even eliminate this gap.



Sure. Are Spheroid mechs going to get their quirks rolled back?



They already do have increased spreads and cooldowns... plus IS SRMs do more damage per hit and Clan LRMs fire off in a stream that's much easier to dodge in part than an IS salvo.

Unless you want to crapify them further? IS Quirks, too......



Umm, this is vague. You mean autocannons, ultra-autocannons or both? In any case, cUAC/cAC are already nerfed by shooting in bursts.

And again, clans don't get significant quirks. Are you willing to roll back IS quirks?



Erm... uh, I'm going with NO on this one.



I vehemently disagree your suggestions will improve overall balance.

The Gauss one might be a good point but I don't think clan gauss is a hot commodity anyway. Short of dual gauss platforms it's pretty much non-existent on clanners.

Gotcha!

[Malagant]

Khobai, on 27 December 2015 - 12:10 PM, said:

but that doesnt work in a game where both teams have the same number of mechs. the tech has to be equal for the game to be balanced.

Sounds like what you are saying is PGI must destroy the franchise in order to attain something unobtainable...balance...

[Malagant]

Alaric Hasek, on 27 December 2015 - 04:42 PM, said:

A new idea!

Clans no longer have 'mechs, instead they only have twelve suits of Elemental armor for each drop.

Yes, yes, I agree, this would actually be cool!

[Dirt6]

Pika, on 28 December 2015 - 03:58 AM, said:

No you didn't, lets not tell porkies, now. You know exactly what you did and probably felt super duper smug the whole time.

Sir, would you please stop trolling my thread and help us figure out some way to fix it so clans are not EZ mode.

[Jaster Me Reel]

Ok, even though I have only posted once before....I feel it is my moral obligation to add my completely unbiased opinion with no substantial basis of any kind:
Everyone complains of the "boating of weapons", so we just need to add the restriction on clan mechs that each mech must carry one of each weapon type. The mech must add one of each weapon type ( ie missle, ballistic, energy, etc) before adding a second and so on. This will help (obviously ghost heat isn't cutting it) from clan mechs being outlandishly OP. This will bring more variety of builds to the battlefield. Competition is for the weak. Funzies for all!

[xWiredx]

OP has 39 posts now. Did nobody welcome the new guy? Seems like an obvious first reply.

OP - Welcome, new friend! Now that the pleasantries are out of the way... NO. Just stop it. Things are not exactly how your limited perception sees them and we welcome you to play several (hundred) more matches.

[Dirt6]

xWiredx, on 28 December 2015 - 01:36 PM, said:

OP has 39 posts now. Did nobody welcome the new guy? Seems like an obvious first reply.

OP - Welcome, new friend! Now that the pleasantries are out of the way... NO. Just stop it. Things are not exactly how your limited perception sees them and we welcome you to play several (hundred) more matches.

Pfft, dude, I play so much Call of Duty you don't even know. This game is very similar so stop being so snobby. You need to man up and give us some good suggestions ok.

[Jae Hyun Nakamura]

Greenduck, on 28 December 2015 - 02:09 PM, said:

Pfft, dude, I play so much Call of Duty you don't even know. This game is very similar so stop being so snobby. You need to man up and give us some good suggestions ok.

xWiredx, on 28 December 2015 - 01:36 PM, said:

OP has 39 posts now. Did nobody welcome the new guy? Seems like an obvious first reply.

OP - Welcome, new friend! Now that the pleasantries are out of the way... NO. Just stop it. Things are not exactly how your limited perception sees them and we welcome you to play several (hundred) more matches.

[Clownwarlord]

Greenduck, on 28 December 2015 - 02:09 PM, said:

Pfft, dude, I play so much Call of Duty you don't even know. This game is very similar so stop being so snobby. You need to man up and give us some good suggestions ok.

Call of Duty ... how cute.

[Novakaine]

clownwarlord, on 28 December 2015 - 02:29 PM, said:

Call of Duty ... how cute.

And there in lies the problem.
Besides odd duck colored alt accounts.
All primaries or do plan on including secondary colors as well.

[Idealsuspect]

Olds clanners who try ( and success ) to troll
Swol are funny, not good but funny i have to admit ^^

Well troll PGI isn't really hard ( remove last CLAN heatsink nerfs and everything will be okay )

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• Clan Double Heat Sink capacity will be reduced from -1.4 to -1.1. This is reducing the maximum heat value for a 'Mech before it shuts down, not the speed at which it cools off.

>> how break everything

Edited by Idealsuspect, 28 December 2015 - 02:44 PM.

[Moldur]

All of these ideas are super good honestly.

[Dirt6]

Moldur, on 28 December 2015 - 02:52 PM, said:

All of these ideas are super good honestly.

TX! We should try to implement them in the PTS immediately.

[Jaster Me Reel]

I think we need to really be open minded and continue the conversation that will, inevitably, lead us to the conclusion that clan mechs are way overpowered and need some minor change to bring the overall game play into balance.

[The Mechromancer]

Edited by The Mechromancer, 28 December 2015 - 03:47 PM.

[Nauht]

Moldur, on 28 December 2015 - 02:52 PM, said:

All of these ideas are super good honestly.

Ah so now we know whose alt account greenduck belongs to.

Why didn't you just man up and post with your founders account?

Actually I know - to avoid exactly what's happening now assocuated with your founders. Unless you've been away since beta and the Clan release, you should know better.

But I spose it's just far easier to like your own alt account posts to give them some semblance of credibility or attempt at credibility.

Edited by Nauht, 28 December 2015 - 04:09 PM.

[Lightfoot]

Inner Sphere weapons all work though. Clan weapons are all streams and dot bursts except for the lasers which have much longer durations. Of course if you are standing still you gain no benefit from PGI's stream and burst nerfs. You're standing still right?

[Jaster Me Reel]

Nauht, on 28 December 2015 - 04:08 PM, said:

Ah so now we know whose alt account greenduck belongs to.

Why didn't you just man up and post with your founders account?

Actually I know - to avoid exactly what's happening now assocuated with your founders. Unless you've been away since beta and the Clan release, you should know better.

But I spose it's just far easier to like your own alt account posts to give them some semblance of credibility or attempt at credibility.

Aha! Greenduck has been exposed. I fell for your clever ruse and followed you blindly. You had me convinced that IS was massively overpowered and in need of a "Quirkening". From now on, I will be thinking for myself and will not fall into your "tom foolery" nor your shenanigans. Clans are OP and you shan't convince me otherwise.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Malagant, on 28 December 2015 - 10:11 AM, said:

Sounds like what you are saying is PGI must destroy the franchise in order to attain something unobtainable...balance...

thats what ppl want yes

[Celtic Warrior IS]

Greenduck, on 28 December 2015 - 02:09 PM, said:

Pfft, dude, I play so much Call of Duty you don't even know. This game is very similar so stop being so snobby. You need to man up and give us some good suggestions ok.

Call of Duty is so awesome, clan mechs should be mounted with strictly assault rifles, that should balance things out.