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#21 Felbombling

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Posted 31 December 2015 - 08:36 AM

Take the best player in the MechWarrior: Online community. It is statistically possible for this player to go 0-20 on any given day.

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Posted 31 December 2015 - 08:41 AM

I love the "sinking ship" and "players abandoning" assumptions that get thrown around.
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I did not say it was sinking today but soon after 3 years of lies BS by PGI and unending boring COD 3 game mode play you must be brain dead to think MWO is so much fun. Plus the total crappy vote system is a joke waste of recourses and they call it a mini game LOLOLOL.

Just more bad decisions one after another you would think maybe a junior staff member was running and making decisions for MWO and not the Devs themselves.

Where are all the new exciting game modes for solo and CW game play where are all the new exciting improvements? 2 years 3 years away? when the cash cow is all dried up? LOLOLOL

Edited by KahnWongFuChung, 31 December 2015 - 08:42 AM.


#23 adamts01

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Posted 31 December 2015 - 08:42 AM

View PostGhost Badger, on 31 December 2015 - 08:33 AM, said:

Also, OP, you ARE the problem.

Why is he the problem? I've noticed two types of players, those that don't care one bit about teamwork, matchmaker or having to always carry, and those who want competitive matches with equally skilled opponents and teammates. There's nothing wrong with either type, just different personalities. I'm the 2nd, just like OP. I want good fights, I'm good and I want to be surrounded with equally skilled players. MM does a **** job by placing tier 3, Steam noobs in my matches. Some people don't mind, I hate it.

As far as a sinking ship, none of us know. But I can tell you I haven't found a single unit that can put together more than 4 players on this crappy Oceanic server. From many people, I hear it wasn't always like that. Hopefully Steam fixes that.... We'll see....

#24 Mister Blastman

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Posted 31 December 2015 - 08:48 AM

OP if you aren't averaging 500+ damage a drop and have a 1.3+ win/loss ratio then you are hurting your team and only have yourself to blame. Get your butt in the 'mech, start lifting durasteel and carry harder!

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Posted 31 December 2015 - 08:51 AM

View PostMister Blastman, on 31 December 2015 - 08:48 AM, said:

OP if you aren't averaging 500+ damage a drop and have a 1.3+ win/loss ratio then you are hurting your team and only have yourself to blame. Get your butt in the 'mech, start lifting durasteel and carry harder!

He never once mentioned losing in these stomps. I've got a 1.93 W/L and complain about stomps all the time. Winning stomps. Stomps all suck, no matter what side of the stomp you're on.

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Posted 31 December 2015 - 08:53 AM

View PostKahnWongFuChung, on 31 December 2015 - 08:41 AM, said:

I love the "sinking ship" and "players abandoning" assumptions that get thrown around.
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I did not say it was sinking today but soon after 3 years of lies BS by PGI and unending boring COD 3 game mode play you must be brain dead to think MWO is so much fun.


So pick up your ball and go home already, ForumWarrior.

View Postadamts01, on 31 December 2015 - 08:51 AM, said:

He never once mentioned losing in these stomps. I've got a 1.93 W/L and complain about stomps all the time. Winning stomps. Stomps all suck, no matter what side of the stomp you're on.


Anyone claiming to be "raw meat for meta players" isn't complaining about winning stomps.

As to why it's his problem? If he's TRULY getting his *** beat in every single match...it's not the matchmaker. He's just bad at this. Instead of stepping up his game, he's running away. Again. Good riddance. He actually SAID "There are no good or bad players in MM-based game." That's such bull lol, and showed a such a rigid perspective he's almost not worth engaging.

There's only so much handholding that can be done. EVERYONE has games where they lose. Even good players can get shitcanned early in a match. Suck it up, cupcakes.

Edited by Ghost Badger, 31 December 2015 - 08:55 AM.


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Posted 31 December 2015 - 08:56 AM

i think we've had enough of these posts, yeah?

#28 CDLord HHGD

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Posted 31 December 2015 - 09:00 AM

Obligatory:

"Can I haz your stuffs?"

#29 Mister Blastman

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Posted 31 December 2015 - 09:03 AM

View Postadamts01, on 31 December 2015 - 08:51 AM, said:

He never once mentioned losing in these stomps. I've got a 1.93 W/L and complain about stomps all the time. Winning stomps. Stomps all suck, no matter what side of the stomp you're on.


Sure they do. And for clarification to the OP, is that 1.93 W/L PUG solo queue only?

#30 adamts01

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Posted 31 December 2015 - 09:05 AM

View PostGhost Badger, on 31 December 2015 - 08:53 AM, said:

Anyone claiming to be "raw meat for meta players" isn't complaining about winning stomps.

As to why it's his problem? If he's TRULY getting his *** beat in every single match...it's not the matchmaker. He's just bad at this. Instead of stepping up his game, he's running away. Again. Good riddance. He actually SAID "There are no good or bad players in MM-based game." That's such bull lol, and showed a such a rigid perspective he's almost not worth engaging.

There's only so much handholding that can be done. EVERYONE has games where they lose. Even good players can get shitcanned early in a match. Suck it up, cupcakes.

I missed the "ray meat" part. You're right. And I do agree that in massive losing streaks, you are the only common factor. But... I do agree with him that players of different skills are thrown together more than there is a need for.

View PostMister Blastman, on 31 December 2015 - 09:03 AM, said:


Sure they do. And for clarification to the OP, is that 1.93 W/L PUG solo queue only?

Almost entirely

Edit: I hurt too many delicate feelings to be in a unit.

Edit #2: That's the average for my Timberwolves, most played mech. My 12 flamer Nova isn't doing so well....

Edited by adamts01, 31 December 2015 - 09:08 AM.


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Posted 31 December 2015 - 09:09 AM

View PostMrMadguy, on 31 December 2015 - 06:39 AM, said:

WAAAH!


Hey, buddy.

Normally this is where I'd explain to yet another screeching jackalope that MWO is not not not not NOT NOT NOT Call of Duty, and that in this game 'stomps' are a simple result of the fundamental nature of the game being very prone to snowballing. No amount of matchmaker tomscrewery will ever 'fix' it. It's part and parcel of what MWO is.

But then I reread that post, and decided it'd basically be a waste of my time since you're clearly either unable or unwilling to listen to logic, reason, or rational explanation.

They just released a new BlOps game last month. It has robots in it, too. Go play that instead, you'll feel a lot better.

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Posted 31 December 2015 - 09:15 AM

View Postadamts01, on 31 December 2015 - 09:05 AM, said:

Almost entirely

Edit: I hurt too many delicate feelings to be in a unit.

Edit #2: That's the average for my Timberwolves, most played mech. My 12 flamer Nova isn't doing so well....


Hehehehehe. I don't even pay attention to the W/L ratio...I can only carry so hard. I look more at K/D ratio...I've had a LOT of games in the PUG queue where my damage and kills is equal to 2-4 other players on my team combined, lol.

#33 C E Dwyer

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Posted 31 December 2015 - 09:20 AM

Hope the door bruises on the way out

What is it with self entitled idiots like you, that think your so important you have to leave a goodbye speech, like anyone really cares, other than P.G.I and only very slightly, traffic is traffic, unless your a paying, customer

#34 adamts01

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Posted 31 December 2015 - 09:29 AM

View PostGhost Badger, on 31 December 2015 - 09:15 AM, said:


Hehehehehe. I don't even pay attention to the W/L ratio...I can only carry so hard. I look more at K/D ratio...I've had a LOT of games in the PUG queue where my damage and kills is equal to 2-4 other players on my team combined, lol.

I really don't care about any of it. Lately I've been running no armor LRM Timbys because F*** it. My kdr isn't great though, I leave a lot of gimped enemies behind for my teammates to swarm on while I focus on bigger threats.

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Posted 31 December 2015 - 09:32 AM

View PostKahnWongFuChung, on 31 December 2015 - 08:41 AM, said:

I love the "sinking ship" and "players abandoning" assumptions that get thrown around.
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I did not say it was sinking today but soon after 3 years of lies BS by PGI and unending boring COD 3 game mode play you must be brain dead to think MWO is so much fun. Plus the total crappy vote system is a joke waste of recourses and they call it a mini game LOLOLOL.

Just more bad decisions one after another you would think maybe a junior staff member was running and making decisions for MWO and not the Devs themselves.

Where are all the new exciting game modes for solo and CW game play where are all the new exciting improvements? 2 years 3 years away? when the cash cow is all dried up? LOLOLOL



Bad decision and "Not what i wanted" are two very different things....

Why do you think they changed the MM and the way we get games and modes? Just change for the sake of changes? No, they did that so they could make more game modes. They also re balanced just about all the mechs in the game. Granted they didnt really change the meta, they sure changed the meta mechs a bit.

also? What RECOURSES did they use? Im sure you meant RESOURCES and changing the MM and adding VOTING was a way for them to ADD MORE GAME MODES while not having the hard limits in the MM but much softer ones. There is no mode selection, or map even, until after you get 12 players. This is major change for the MM and is the first step in opening up access to more games modes.

Its pays to look into stuff before you open your mouth. But if you are so good at predicting the future Nostradamus? Whats the wining lotto numbers for tonight? Power Ball is WAY up there and since you have the foresight to see when i company will close its doors YEARS before the company does (or if they ever do) maybe you can win me like 300 mill? We can split it?

PGI does not call it "the mini game" us trolls who like to stack mutlipliers and then cut everyone out of ther fav map is why WE (the community) call its the Mini Game. You are very out of touch with just about everything thats goes on in MWO.




Another thing, How does a ship sink for 3 years? Isn't that pretty much the definition of NOT SINKING?

You doomsayers crack me up so much butt hurt over VIDEO GAMES!

Relax or go find another game then. No on will miss you here im sure.

Edited by DarthRevis, 31 December 2015 - 09:33 AM.


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Posted 31 December 2015 - 09:37 AM

Cool Fact: If we had 8v8 again we wouldn't get 12-0 stomps any more. Posted Image

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Posted 31 December 2015 - 09:43 AM

View PostMrMadguy, on 31 December 2015 - 06:39 AM, said:

Instant queue times, but EXTREMELY TERRIBLE matches. Stomp after stomp, again, again and again. PGI definitely just shut MM off, so it's simply random matchmaking now. I don't want to be a raw meat for Meta players, sorry. I returned after Steam release to see, if this game had improved a little but, but now I quit again, till I won't see, that MWO has proper skill-based MM. And also PGI, teach your MM to track short-term lose streaks. Otherwise you'll lose all your players pretty soon.

UPD For those, who love to say "L2P noob":
1) I have been playing this game since Open Beta. About 5500 matches played. So problem isn't with my experience.
2) There are no good or bad players in MM-based game - every player should play at his own level of skill. If MM fails to match you with and against players with proper skill level - it's problems with MM, not with me. You should advance to next level of skill only after beating previous one. Playing against Ronaldo and Messi and being forced to "improve" to their level of skill since the first day of playing football - is nonsense, sorry.
3) This game was terrible since implementation of 3/3/3/3 and release of Clans. There was enough time to fix it. And I had been playing it for about a year, while it had been terrible, before quitting it for the first time. This time was enough to test my patience - now I have run out of it. That's why now it's "fix it or I quit" - nothing more, nothing less.


The MatchMaker is not conspiring to put you on Losing Teams. The MatchMaker does not put all the bad players on one side and he good players on the other side.

It's also not random. If you are getting "instant matches" then the slop valves are still closed. That means you are playing ONLY with players within 2 tiers of yourself.

So... Don't blame the MatchMaker. Blame your teams (all teammates, including self).

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Posted 31 December 2015 - 09:45 AM

I swear i saw the guys name and thought for sure it had to be a new account troll post. Posted Image


I dunno what to say.. Do i get stomped from time to time? of course.. am i the one stomping at others.. Yup...

but i can honestly say, the majority of my matches are close, or are at least close enough that either team can win for most of the match.. and at that point they go 12-6, 12-8, 12-10, or the wire, the classic 12-11.. But more often than not they land in the 8-10 range.. to me that's a good match.. And so often when they come to that, they still could of gone either way, It's up to the team to coordinate..

BTW this is strictly solo cue. But i am not sure why i am saying this as nothing i say will matter to the OP


View Postadamts01, on 31 December 2015 - 08:51 AM, said:

He never once mentioned losing in these stomps. I've got a 1.93 W/L and complain about stomps all the time. Winning stomps. Stomps all suck, no matter what side of the stomp you're on.



Do you play PUGs, group or both? I am really curious about the ratio of games you play to get that W/L



View PostMonkey Lover, on 31 December 2015 - 08:13 AM, said:

I wonder how much of that tier 5 is getting screwed up by all the tier 1 alt accounts. I seen a lot of people talk about making new accounts to play in the lower tiers.



Good Q,, though i did make a new account, just to play clans.. not to play lower tiers.. so for just over 100 matches i was one of those people.. Then again.. i am now tier 3, and my IS account is also tier 3, so i was playing with them anyway.. Perhaps i am not the one that really was messing with the match maker persay..

Edited by JC Daxion, 31 December 2015 - 09:57 AM.


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Posted 31 December 2015 - 09:48 AM

View PostDrxAbstract, on 31 December 2015 - 09:37 AM, said:

Cool Fact: If we had 8v8 again we wouldn't get 12-0 stomps any more. Posted Image


Yes. But, we'll get more complaints of 8-0 stomps.

And when we get 4v4, well get even more complaints of 4-0 stomps.

And when we finally, due to all the crying, get reduced to just 1vs1, we'll get an astounding amount of complaints that people never win.

And in the end if I match the complaints to names, I suspect I will see quite a number in all of them.

<smh>

Edited by Mystere, 31 December 2015 - 09:49 AM.


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Posted 31 December 2015 - 09:50 AM

View PostDarthRevis, on 31 December 2015 - 09:32 AM, said:



PGI does not call it "the mini game" us trolls who like to stack mutlipliers and then cut everyone out of ther fav map is why WE (the community) call its the Mini Game. You are very out of touch with just about everything thats goes on in MWO.




can you explain why someone is a troll, that stacks a multiplier.. just to play a mode they want or a map they want.. maybe 1 in 10? More like i'm being trolled playing the same map, same mode.. over and over.... though the other day,, i spent almost all day playing a over half my matches on conquest, on canyon, alpine, terra and tourmline and i barely voted most of the time, or at least it felt like that..

I guess the MM gods were making up for the day before when all i played was river and frozen skirmish close to 20 times and i tried my best to vote for something other than that to no avail.. talk about getting trolled...

Edited by JC Daxion, 31 December 2015 - 09:52 AM.




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