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[cazidin]

Greetings Mechwarriors. Why does the AMS module exist? Does anyone (other than, maybe, a Kit Fox pilot) use it? The Narc module atleast has multiple benefits that makes it MUCH stronger so why is the AMS module so weak?

[Alistair Winter]

I use it. I use it for my 2xAMS Black Knight. I think I have both AMS modules, actually.

You may ask why I even put 2xAMS on my Black Knight.

I dunno.

AMS has never been a big deal in MWO. The AS7-K was my first Atlas, because it could have 2xAMS. I always wanted AMS to be good. But it never was. Maybe some day.

[cazidin]

Alistair Winter, on 04 January 2016 - 03:29 PM, said:

I use it. I use it for my 2xAMS Black Knight. I think I have both AMS modules, actually.

You may ask why I even put 2xAMS on my Black Knight.

I dunno.

AMS has never been a big deal in MWO. The AS7-K was my first Atlas, because it could have 2xAMS. I always wanted AMS to be good. But it never was. Maybe some day.

How is the Black Knight? I've heard mixed things about it since the Quirkening II. Also, why not use a weapon module that improves DPS or range?

[Alistair Winter]

cazidin, on 04 January 2016 - 03:31 PM, said:

How is the Black Knight? I've heard mixed things about it since the Quirkening II. Also, why not use a weapon module that improves DPS or range?

I love the Black Knight. It's not the best IS heavy, but I love it.

For the Black Knight with 2xAMS, I'm actually just boating MPLs, so I don't need as many weapon modules. I have mixed builds on the other variants.

[cazidin]

Let me guess. 8-9, 2 AMS with ammo a lot of Heat Sinks and... Standard or XL?

Edited by cazidin, 04 January 2016 - 03:42 PM.

[Alistair Winter]

cazidin, on 04 January 2016 - 03:41 PM, said:

Let me guess. 8-9, 2 AMS with ammo a lot of Heat Sinks and... Standard or XL?

8xMPL, 2xAMS (2 tons ammo), 10 external DHS and STD300.

[cazidin]

I hope you don't mind if I take that build when I Black Knights are on sale for credits?

[Elyam]

I always use AMS except on some rare experimental builds.
-you never know when incoming missile fire will be a heavy determinant in a mission, but it's so common that carrying AMS is akin to carrying extra armor
-once you experience the sight of a brace of SRMs disintegrating as they scream in toward your cockpit and you win solely because, thanks to that AMS, your ruby red central torso didn't get struck but you succeeded in nailing his - you'll know it was worth it
-like anything else in the build game, it's a matter of opinion as to where that 1 to 2 tons can be best used, but after 4000 matches (and decades of TT BT) I have to conclude that, for me, AMS matters

[Sable]

I use both range and speed modules on certain mechs. There's a thunderbolt with double ams, a vindicator a battlemaster, black night. I've been leaning more towards these types of mechs for 1st or 2nd waves when the LRMs are fiercest and then follow up with some regular heavy hitters. I've been trying to work AMS into more builds now that ECM has been nerfed. Of course there are always the meta loving rain deniers but let them die to the rain until they realize their folly

[BigBenn]

While I don't have the AMS mods, I did want to give AMS a vote of confidence. I have dual AMS on a Wolfhound and Crab, and I make it a point to hang out near allied assault mechs to help them out. More than once I've gotten a thumbs up or thanks from them.

It is a shame that means are not rewarded somehow for having the AMS. Perhaps X c-bills or Y xp for every 500red of AMS used?

[El Bandito]

My dual AMS STK-5S loves some AMS range module.

[GrimRiver]

AMS is good vs LRM5's but not so much vs anything else though it does help if you can pack it in because it helps your team too.

[jss78]

I do use the range module on a couple builds. My CBR-27® has dual AMS, and it feels worthwhile that to cover more of my team mates. My BJ-3 (2xERLL, 4xML, 1xAMS) has a third weapon module slot, so I use that for AMS range while the others get ERLL and ML range modules. It runs so hot anyway that weapon cooldown modules make little sense.

[MonkeyCheese]

well outside of the 3ams kitfox and 3ams nova and the ams locust I say it aint worth it. But something mobile like the 2ams summoner builds could use it.

But my ams modules stay on my 3ams kitfox for when I play in groups.

[Clownwarlord]

I was using it but the higher the tier the less likely you need it because less and less tier 1s and 2s use lrms which makes ams even more non-effective.

[CycKath]

I often opt for overload, people feel range is the superior option?

[GreenHell]

The LRM haters need to see this wonderful thread full of people who are actively doing something about the "big bad LRM problem" lol. I run AMS all the time, and it has saved my bacon on multiple occasions. We can't all have ECM after all. I do feel like there might be "too many" ways to defeat LRMs though... AMS, ECM, Radar Derp, plain old good cover (including friends), etc.

[adamts01]

Positioning and pushing LRM-heavy teams is OP. The weight is better spent on weapons and heat sinks.

[Mechteric]

I'm waiting for Laser AMS, don't want to deal with AMS ammo!

[Khobai]

AMS module is pretty useless. Theres quite frankly better modules to take like pretty much any weapon module or radar deprivation (if its the mastery slot).

If they combined the AMS range and AMS rate of fire module into a single module it might be worth considering then, at least on mechs with 2 or more AMS.

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I run AMS all the time,

And I have no issue with AMS. I think its fine. Its the AMS modules that are terrible.

Edited by Khobai, 05 January 2016 - 08:39 AM.