Griffin/shadowhawk/wolverine ?
#1
Posted 09 January 2016 - 08:29 AM
i've watched a lot of vids and read some info and those seem to be the best three out of the IS mechs,
i've tried the lights and heavies but think i'd be better with the mediums.
#2
Posted 09 January 2016 - 08:36 AM
#3
Posted 09 January 2016 - 08:38 AM
Lots of folks like Griffins for SRM brawlers.
Shadow Hawk has some good ballistic builds with that high left torso mount, and still some missile hard points.
Wolverine can do a little bit of everything, and one of its variants is considered among the game's top mechs for its LL quirks.
But again, I hate 'em all. Blackjack is the current hotness in IS mediums. Hunchback is a great LEARNING mech, and decent overall. Centurion is also fun to learn on. Cicada is FAST.
If you simply MUST buy one of those three, then get the Griffin first. Decent hero mech (Sparky), ECM variant available (-2N), great asymmetry on a lot of the builds.
#4
Posted 09 January 2016 - 08:48 AM
#5
Posted 09 January 2016 - 08:50 AM
the way to do it is fire all your weapons then put an arm between you and your opponent, the arms are wide enough that they completely block your torsos from view if you position correctly, then after the arm gets blown off keep doing it, only 40% of the damage gets through to your side torso, assuming you use a Standard engine after the torso is gone only 16% of the damage will get to the Center torso, and as most Griffins have the bulk of there firepower on one side you can keep firing with most of your weapons with 1 each arm, torso and leg missing
Edited by Rogue Jedi, 09 January 2016 - 08:50 AM.
#6
Posted 09 January 2016 - 08:55 AM
SHD and WVR have a very similar feeling geometry -- the arms shield the torso well, and the side torso hit boxes aren't huge. They roll damage very well and are "XL friendly". They can both run lots of SRMs (3 missile hard points on many variants, SHD-2D2 gets four) and different mixtures of ballistics and lasers on top of that.
I'll put Shadow Hawks slightly ahead for two reasons. First, they have those iconic shoulder mounted ballistic hardpoints (energy hardpoints in SHD-2K) which make them IMO better suited for non-brawling roles should you ever want to try that. Second, Shadow Hawks have structure quirks for all components while Wolverines only have them for the gun arm.
(The Shadow Hawk hero has the best structure quirks of all of them -- I haven't tried running it like that, but I bet it'd make a fun brawler running four MPL in the arms and them some mixture of AC and/or SRM's on top of that).
Edited by jss78, 09 January 2016 - 08:56 AM.
#7
Posted 09 January 2016 - 09:04 AM
#8
Posted 09 January 2016 - 09:24 AM
#9
Posted 09 January 2016 - 09:49 AM
Griffin has a variant with ECM, while the Wolverine has a particularly bad variant with MASC, the shadow hawk has neither, but better weapon placement.
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they are all good jump capable medium mechs, with special features that can be tailored to your playstyle, you say brawling? i would steer you toward the Griffin and then the Shadow Hawk before the Wolverine.
Edited by zudukai, 09 January 2016 - 09:52 AM.
#10
Posted 09 January 2016 - 10:21 AM
#12
Posted 09 January 2016 - 10:33 AM
Wolverines - Goot point-dmg-dealers, with either a 3-4 LL or double-AC5-spam. But if it loses the right arm - it loses most of it's weapons.
Shadowhawks - good shoulder hardpoint, good mix of variants. Don't have enough experience in it to add anything else.
#13
Posted 09 January 2016 - 01:49 PM
#14
Posted 09 January 2016 - 05:49 PM
~Leone.
#15
Posted 09 January 2016 - 07:15 PM
I would rate the GRF the best for brawling, the WVR the best for skirmishing, and the SHD the best for long range harrassing. Yes, they can all brawl, but the WVR and SHD don't do it as well as the GRF by far.
And the recent WVR that came in the loyalty reward isn't trash, you just have to find the right niche. Great at pokey pokey with a UAC in the right arm. Just completely dump the MASC.
#16
Posted 09 January 2016 - 07:22 PM
#17
Posted 10 January 2016 - 03:04 AM
I haven't played the Wolverines, but I can vouch for the Griffins for brawling (even the Sparky, which is one of my favourite Mechs).
#18
Posted 10 January 2016 - 05:19 AM
However, there is still no better ballistic suppression mech than the 3 AC2 Shadowhawk because they are all on one side so peeking around a hill is better than a Jaeger that has to pop up. It also helps that it has JJs. I have plinked many an Atlas to death because I was above him blazing away with AC2s on chain fire. Shakes the heck out of them.
#19
Posted 10 January 2016 - 09:42 AM
#20
Posted 10 January 2016 - 01:02 PM
Edited by Smotty, 10 January 2016 - 01:04 PM.
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