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#1 Sabazial

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Posted 11 January 2016 - 12:32 PM

Recently i've experienced some strange deaths while running my gauss Timberwolf, i have a gauss rifle in it's right torso, lasers in the right. Thing is i keep dying from a gauss rifle explosion that starts in the right torso then follows in a chain reaction over to the left torso, not only destroying my lasers at the same time but killing both of my side torso and killing my 'mech.

I thought it was just bad luck but i started screenshotting my deaths, here is one from just a few minutes ago.

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Is there something strange going on, or is there something i'm missing? would appreciate any input please guys, thanks.

#2 Yosharian

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Posted 11 January 2016 - 12:35 PM

A screenshot hardly proves anything. Try recording.

#3 Napoleon_Blownapart

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Posted 11 January 2016 - 12:39 PM

case shouldnt help because gauss ammo doesnt explode its the weapon blowing up

#4 mogs01gt

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Posted 11 January 2016 - 12:41 PM

I dont think the damage should cross the CT to the ST though.

#5 Mcgral18

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Posted 11 January 2016 - 12:43 PM

View PostGorantir, on 11 January 2016 - 12:39 PM, said:

case shouldnt help because gauss ammo doesnt explode its the weapon blowing up


CASE still stops the explosion from going CT.

OP, so you have the Gauss in the RT, it blows, then removes your LT?
Not working as intended.

If you've already lost the one ST, then the Gauss blows, that is working as intended, as it doesn't prevent explosion damage, just transfer.

#6 Bilbo

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Posted 11 January 2016 - 12:44 PM

View Postmogs01gt, on 11 January 2016 - 12:41 PM, said:

I dont think the damage should cross the CT to the ST though.

It won't. He was either raked by lasers or hit by more than one person.

#7 MrJeffers

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Posted 11 January 2016 - 12:47 PM

Looks like the left torso was destroyed first, then your right torso was destroyed from the Gauss explosion.

#8 Sabazial

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Posted 11 January 2016 - 12:51 PM

If it was just a simple case of being raked by lasers or being focus fired i wouldn't be making this thread in the first place, this has only started happening recently, i've not had this problem since i bought my Timberwolves in wave 1.

That's my main reasoning for asking other players opinions, don't think i'll bother next time.

#9 KodiakGW

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Posted 11 January 2016 - 12:57 PM

Can confirm this happens to me, but not to same extent. Using Gauss in Prime right torso. Also have all Gauss ammo in same torso. Using Large Pulse in left torso. When right torso gets destroyed, I lose the Large Pulse in the left torso.

Sorry, no video. Pretty consistent results if anyone wants to test.

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Posted 11 January 2016 - 01:04 PM

View PostMcgral18, on 11 January 2016 - 12:43 PM, said:

CASE still stops the explosion from going CT.

OP, so you have the Gauss in the RT, it blows, then removes your LT?
Not working as intended.

If you've already lost the one ST, then the Gauss blows, that is working as intended, as it doesn't prevent explosion damage, just transfer.


I poked from behind cover, took a hit in the right torso with a pair of medium pulse lasers and backed off behind cover again, about 2 seconds after this i lost my right torso and was notified of weapon explosion by Betty. As she gave me the warning i lost the left torso weapons then died.

This has happened more than once in various differing circumstances and that's what is stumping me, C.A.S.E should contain the weapon explosion and cause me to only lose the RT. I've never had this issue since i bought my TW in wave 1, it's just started happening recently which is what i'm trying to work out.

I wasn't taking any fire when this happened, there were 4 enemy mechs remaining on their team and all 4 were together in front of our position so i can discount being sniped from somewhere. it just makes no sense to me hence why i thought maybe there's an issue with C.A.S.E

View PostKodiakGW, on 11 January 2016 - 12:57 PM, said:

Can confirm this happens to me, but not to same extent. Using Gauss in Prime right torso. Also have all Gauss ammo in same torso. Using Large Pulse in left torso. When right torso gets destroyed, I lose the Large Pulse in the left torso.

Sorry, no video. Pretty consistent results if anyone wants to test.


Yep that's pretty much what's been happening to me except it takes out my engine too, thanks Kodiak.

#11 ilikerice

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Posted 11 January 2016 - 02:12 PM

CASE does not stop gauss explosion damage, I believe I do have a video of this when I run my dual gauss summoner.

I will double check after work, but this has been happening for a while. CASE should be stopping weapon explosion damage transfer just like the ammo explosion damage.

#12 Alwrathandabout42ninjas

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Posted 11 January 2016 - 02:16 PM

View PostBelphegore, on 11 January 2016 - 12:32 PM, said:

Recently i've experienced some strange deaths while running my gauss Timberwolf, i have a gauss rifle in it's right torso, lasers in the right. Thing is i keep dying from a gauss rifle explosion that starts in the right torso then follows in a chain reaction over to the left torso, not only destroying my lasers at the same time but killing both of my side torso and killing my 'mech.

I thought it was just bad luck but i started screenshotting my deaths, here is one from just a few minutes ago.

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Is there something strange going on, or is there something i'm missing? would appreciate any input please guys, thanks.


lol. Gauss in the torso of a heavy mech... bad idea. only noobs do that.

View PostMrJeffers, on 11 January 2016 - 12:47 PM, said:

Looks like the left torso was destroyed first, then your right torso was destroyed from the Gauss explosion.


this.

Edited by Alwrath, 11 January 2016 - 02:15 PM.


#13 Bilbo

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Posted 11 January 2016 - 02:21 PM

View Postilikerice, on 11 January 2016 - 02:12 PM, said:

CASE does not stop gauss explosion damage, I believe I do have a video of this when I run my dual gauss summoner.

I will double check after work, but this has been happening for a while. CASE should be stopping weapon explosion damage transfer just like the ammo explosion damage.

If it wasn't stopping the damage, the CT would be gone instead of the other torso.

#14 Lord Perversor

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Posted 11 January 2016 - 02:31 PM

The OP knows pretty well how Case works he's pointing about noticing lately (1-2 patches i guess) that losing his RT with a Gauss equipped somehow seems to trigger a damage transfer to his opposite LT wich shouldn't be possible due Case.

Not a damage transfer to his CT, not complaining about losing the weapons of that side arm (he knows that losing the Torso means the arm is gone) he is just pointing that somehow the damage transfer from the right side to the left side wich should be impossible due Case and Clan mechs workings.

So a ood bug that at least 1x person seems to have noticed too ( KodiakGW).

Edited by Lord Perversor, 11 January 2016 - 02:32 PM.


#15 ilikerice

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Posted 11 January 2016 - 02:37 PM

Damage should not be transferring ANYWHERE due to CASE

OP brought up possible bugged CASE

Ive pointed out that CASE does not stop gauss explosions

Either way, this is an issue with CASE

#16 Mcgral18

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Posted 11 January 2016 - 02:38 PM

Trying to test...but the ******* Gauss isn't goddamn blowing up.

RNGEESUS, why are you so fickle? You blow out TWO of my AC5s the other day, but you cannot destroy the 5 HP of the Goose waffle?

View Postilikerice, on 11 January 2016 - 02:37 PM, said:

Damage should not be transferring ANYWHERE due to CASE

OP brought up possible bugged CASE

Ive pointed out that CASE does not stop gauss explosions

Either way, this is an issue with CASE


They broke it, then they fixed it.

It might be broken again.

#17 Mcgral18

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Posted 11 January 2016 - 02:44 PM

And one successful explosion: It worked fine (on a Gauss Ember with 2 CASE mounted).
No damage transfer, no damage to the Left Torso structure.

#18 Ghogiel

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Posted 11 January 2016 - 02:55 PM

View PostMcgral18, on 11 January 2016 - 02:44 PM, said:

And one successful explosion: It worked fine (on a Gauss Ember with 2 CASE mounted).
No damage transfer, no damage to the Left Torso structure.

Don't remember CASE was ever broke on IS mechs. It only was messed up on clans iirc.

#19 Mcgral18

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Posted 11 January 2016 - 02:59 PM

View PostGhogiel, on 11 January 2016 - 02:55 PM, said:

Don't remember CASE was ever broke on IS mechs. It only was messed up on clans iirc.


It was both (tested on Shaq Hawk and Nova)
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With CASE mounted, of course

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Always CASE


Timby LT didn't die in the Testing Grounds when the RT Gauss blew...so you should get some Private Match testing (dat free Premium).

Edited by Mcgral18, 11 January 2016 - 03:02 PM.


#20 Deathlike

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Posted 11 January 2016 - 03:19 PM

If you already lost a side torso (in this case the Left Torso), the Gauss explosion on the opposite torso (in this case, the Right Torso on the Timberwolf) is usually death on Clan XL.

There's no bug, unless you have a video showing otherwise.

Edited by Deathlike, 11 January 2016 - 03:19 PM.






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