778 replies to this topic

[Mystere]

Wintersdark, on 14 January 2016 - 03:00 PM, said:

Russ is going to split the queues. He kind of has to, from his perspective. It WILL happen, so figure out ways to make it work. That's my two bits.

Frankly, I don't have to do one damned thing ... well, other than letting the chips fall where they may.

Then I will make my move. <maniacal >

[Sandpit]

Mystere, on 14 January 2016 - 06:17 PM, said:

Frankly, I don't have to do one damned thing ... well, other than letting the chips fall where they may.

Then I will make my move. <maniacal >

https://twitter.com/...2447023105?s=09

charging units to recruit....

[Mystere]

MischiefSC, on 14 January 2016 - 03:07 PM, said:

Doesn't need to split the queues. The moment you do that you create a system to easily exploit and you devalue CW as a whole into something more a king to pug/group queues with leaderboard.

I think we already know who and how many want this.

[pwnface]

Gas Guzzler, on 14 January 2016 - 12:50 PM, said:

Oh yeah? You sure?

https://twitter.com/...737553189863425

Gas Guzzler: 1
Sandpit: 0

How are you still even trying to argue this point? I feel like the question and answer are both pretty clear and can't reasonably be interpreted in any other way.

Can't fix stupid I guess.

[Sandpit]

pwnface, on 14 January 2016 - 06:24 PM, said:

Gas Guzzler: 1
Sandpit: 0

How are you still even trying to argue this point? I feel like the question and answer are both pretty clear and can't reasonably be interpreted in any other way.

Can't fix stupid I guess.

Is he still going? lol
What is he digging at this time? Wanting to argue for 10 more pagers about a word definition?
no thanks
I'm talking to the rest of the adults now

[GurpGork]

WarZ, on 14 January 2016 - 05:17 PM, said:

I find it hilarious how many group players think they are so good, that when they drop solo, they are magically going to become gods in the solo / non group queue, RoFL !!!

You will be one player in a match of 24. There will be plenty of other good players out there besides your magical godly, and wholly delusional selves. You are not going to be clubbing anything. It will be a pug life and all that entails. You will run back to the group queue so fast your mech wont have a chance to drop below 70% heat, lol.

None of the self proclaimed seal clubbers are even remotely as skilled as they believe they are.

Get a f'ing clue. And i'll be laughing my arse of when you come back crying about pug life.

Literally on the floor laughing my arse of at the imagined skill here !!!

This 100% ... LoL !

[pwnface]

Wing 0, on 14 January 2016 - 06:10 PM, said:

Why twitter when we can do it here.

Russ never reads these forums.

[Wing 0]

Then Russ is an idiot.

[Mystere]

sycocys, on 14 January 2016 - 03:39 PM, said:

"We will just sync drop it to farm pugs."

First of all, if this is your plan - you are the reason split queues is happening. You can no longer holler about how CW is supposed to be hard mode or end game or unit/teamwork mode because you are the players intentionally going out of your way to avoid the challenge you claim the mode is supposed to be about.

Actually, people who normally don't do such things might just do it out of spite this time around. It actually has a certain amount of twisted charm to it than just leaving silently. I think that is called "poisoning the well".

[pwnface]

Sandpit, on 14 January 2016 - 06:27 PM, said:

Is he still going? lol
What is he digging at this time? Wanting to argue for 10 more pagers about a word definition?
no thanks
I'm talking to the rest of the adults now

Is it that hard to admit you are wrong?

Gas Guzzler cited direct evidence from Twitter and your response to him was go look at Twitter.

How can you be this stupid?

[Bonger Bob]

Sandpit, on 14 January 2016 - 12:50 PM, said:

If they segregate new players from groups it's going to be a disaster for that solo queue.

I'm usually a 'wait and see", but I've been through this exact same mess regarding the queues before. They didn't fix the PUB queues then and they won't fix the CW queues now.

It's time to stop with "band-aids" and start looking at the underlying reasons for the negative gaming experiences. It's got nothing to do with groups and solos

it's got more to do with dbags taking advantage of systems like PSR and solo queues to do nothing BUT farm new player and such. It doesn't take much to tank an PSR and get back down into Tiers 4 & 5 and there are some who openly admit to doing so here on these very forums.

There's your problem. Players like that and it has absolutely NOTHING to do with groups or solos or premades, etc.

what the hell has this got to do with player habits in CW since PSR isn't factored in for the round pairing, or are we getting a match maker added to CW too ?? Splitting ques and match maker are very different.

Sandpit, on 14 January 2016 - 01:36 PM, said:

......................

Know what's funny? No matter what your opinion,or anyone else's for that matter, my responses never equate to dismissing them when having a serious discussion and not just trolling.

Get over it?
No
I'll not "get over it"

I'll continue using these forums to express MY opinion just like you are. The difference between you and I? I'm not telling others not to give their feedback. Maybe YOu need to get over it and understand that this isn't your personal forum

It's funny, you were all "ooooh I like Sandpit's posts! Oh I agree with that one!"
the minute an opinion expressed differs from yours though?
"Get over it"

Notice how numerous players here don't agree but we respect one another enough not to try and be a dismissive ***** when their ideas don't mesh with our own?

Get over it yourself sir

...........................

wow, just look at your posts and "reply's" in the last few weeks over this being discussed, you've been doing exactly as you describe here...............wow dude, how far is your head up your own arse ??

Sandpit, on 14 January 2016 - 01:47 PM, said:

As I've stated before, this isn't going to hurt the group queue much if at all, good luck to the poor souls getting trounced in the solo queue though.

We'd like to help you, but we can't as PGI has decided anyone dropping solo will not be allowed to drop with those in a unit.
Player in Twitter "I can't drop with friends in units now?
Russ' response to that?
No, unfortunately you can't do that, Just join the unit.

"I like to jump around a lot"
Russ' response to that?
Form your own unit then

That is almost word for word the exchange on twitter between a solo player and Russ regarding this.

If your so intent on helping the newer players into the fold, your still very able to do so. Nothing stopping you joining the solo que as you see fit.

Though i'll give you've lost a recruitment method you've become accustomed to, perhaps in hindsight using gunboat diplomacy and team mates to roll a side of randoms might not have been the best recruitment method.

I for one welcome the changes , and yes, ill have the petty "I told you so" moment of smug satisfaction now, i did say IT WILL HAPPEN EVENTUALLY , im shocked though, its happening a lot sooner than i thought it would.

[pwnface]

Wing 0, on 14 January 2016 - 06:28 PM, said:

Then Russ is an idiot.

That's not news to any of us.

[Deathlike]

pwnface, on 14 January 2016 - 06:30 PM, said:

That's not news to any of us.

We still have Paul....

[Mystere]

sycocys, on 14 January 2016 - 03:39 PM, said:

Wouldn't hurt to have a saved copy of all current unit tags as well and keep it updated with the last 10-20 units a player is in, and start logging the timestamp of when players hit launch to queue. It won't take much effort at all to correlate when certain players are trying to exploit the system and sync drop. Some time off with a possibility of a ban would end most of this issue pretty quick.

I think PGI has a whole lot of problems on their hands right now with their obviously limited resources doing that will just eat up more limited resources. But heck, I am not stopping them if they insist.

[Wintersdark]

Mystere, on 14 January 2016 - 06:17 PM, said:

Frankly, I don't have to do one damned thing ... well, other than letting the chips fall where they may.

Then I will make my move. &lt;maniacal &gt;

Of course you don't have to do anything. I didn't say anyone had to do anything.

I was just trying, in my own futile way, to help foster useful discussion rather than inane arguing about misunderstandings.

Me, I'm just watching the chips fall too. I don't have a horse in this race, and don't really care either way. I'll adapt, as I always do.

[MischiefSC]

Problem is this. If my unit mostly doesn't play CW then I'll have faster matches by dropping from unit and playing pug queue because I'll never tag a world with 4 people.

That's a problem most have. In fact a lot of units have the bulk of their membership who never play CW. Do they cut those players from the rolls? How about people who haven't played in 2 months?

How about smaller units who aren't going to tag worlds? Do they group up and just trim rolls to stay profitable? So you create a CW money sink?

The idea is so bad I don't get where anyone thought it was good. I'm at a loss.

Pay units more to fight units. You want to split tagless out, fine. Do so. No LP above rank 6 (mech bays and no more) so a value for being in a unit. Have solo queue not directly affect planet ownership but maybe arty or such in unit matches.

That drives units to fight units because it pays better, it segregates tagless nubs but lets them play CW content and prevents the exploits the proposed system creates.

[pwnface]

Deathlike, on 14 January 2016 - 06:32 PM, said:

We still have Paul....

Russ looks like the chairman of Mensa compared to Paul.

I'm amazed Paul even made it to adulthood without natural selection doing its job.

[pwnface]

I'm having serious regrets about purchasing a year of premium time recently. The apathy shown by PGI for their game is actually quite depressing.

[Bonger Bob]

Mystere, on 14 January 2016 - 06:33 PM, said:

I think PGI has a whole lot of problems on their hands right now with their obviously limited resources doing that will just eat up more limited resources. But heck, I am not stopping them if they insist.

seeing as bad player behavior is one of the things that the que split targets, its not unlikely to see PGI continue the concept further. Yes split ques will have there own issues and exploits, but doing something is better than continuing with nothing.

[Wing 0]

Deathlike, on 14 January 2016 - 06:32 PM, said:

We still have Paul....

He don't count lol