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[Aeon Veritas]

I may be wrong, but as I understand it, with CASE your ST isn't blown off in chase of an ammo-exposion.
And even trugh the explosion deals damage to other internal components of the CASE-protected section the engine slots can't be crited and thus you should survive until you lose the ST.
I used half-ton packages to increase the number of components which can recive crit-damage.
Afaik it is random which component recives crit damage, that means the more components, the higher is the theoretical HP in that section and in case of an ammo-explosion you loose less ammo.

Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong with that.

Edit: redacted to prevent misunderstandings.

Edited by Aeon Veritas, 13 June 2016 - 05:42 AM.

[SlightlyMobileTurret]

The torso in which case is WILL GET BLOWN OFF in case of ammo explosion. (or if gauss explosion damage is enough) But the damage will not spread BEYOND said component.

This is why you don't need case with XL ST. Or probably not put ammo in torso of IS XL mechs

Edited by Keshav Murali, 13 June 2016 - 05:26 AM.

[Aeon Veritas]

Well, sh!t, thats not good to hear...
But thanks anyway for the clarification!

[Freeman 52]

ON1-P with STD300, 2xLBX10 and 2xLRM5. Runs great on hot maps. It excels at killing blows: be opportunistic, lrm over friendlies to sandpaper rival CTs, and when armor starts to vanish walk in guns blazing, no fear. Not super effective, but super fun!

[Appogee]

My best Orion is the Protector, with an average damage of 350 after 50 matches. I run it with 2AC5+2LPL and a 350XL.

Two of my other Orions average 300 damage per match.

So as chassis go, it's certainly not top tier, but it's not useless, either.

[Raso]

Cato Zilks, on 25 January 2016 - 05:25 PM, said:

It is also worth noting that the VA is a better Lrm boat than most because it has great quirks:
MISSILE COOLDOWN: 25.00 % MISSILE VELOCITY: 10.00 % MISSILE HEAT GENERATION: -10.00 %

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...6ec09366a0376ae

The closest comparison from a Catapult is the C4:
MISSILE COOLDOWN: 20.00 % MISSILE VELOCITY: 10.00 % MISSILE HEAT GENERATION: -10.00 %

The C4 has more missile tubes, but lacks space for ammo, artemis, and has a slower rate of fire.

It is that very cool down quirk that makes me insist on using SRM4s. With them you get a good damage to RoF ratio (and manageable spread even without Artemis).

Two possible ideas.

ASRM4s with LPLs
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...5a7fb0faa34158c


SRM4s with AC10 and MPLs
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...911b70120993620 (or with MLas and 2 extra DHS if you prefer the added range and cooling http://mwo.smurfy-ne...bd8d5628fd2b886)

[Rear Admiral Tier 6]

Orion is useless?

try the 1V with 2 uacs and 2 large lasers

[Omniseed]

I love my -IICs

[oldradagast]

Aleski, on 18 January 2016 - 02:47 AM, said:

You should rename the topic : "The Orion Is Useless - When you're a bad player"

If you don't perform well in a chassis, it's just that you can't play with it's own wicknesses.
There is no bad mechs, only bad players.

That statement is completely and utterly wrong.

There is no shortage of mechs in this game that are objectively inferior in every way, or nearly every way, to other mechs. To pretend that they are equal is simply inaccurate, and to use such false statements to then insult another player is childish.

Yes, the Orion is junk, as the OP correctly observed, and is only capable of being a threat in a brawl. The problem is many other mechs can do that without the Orion's drawbacks.

It is huge, hulking, and sluggish with poor hitboxes and a pile of low-slung weapons with no real ability to boat anything effectively. Sure, you CAN have good games in it, but that doesn't make it a good mech. Heck, I have good games in my Awesomes, but I'm not under any delusions that they are good mechs - a Stalker or Battlemaster would be superior in every way aside from torso twist.

Edited by oldradagast, 27 June 2016 - 03:28 AM.

[Aleski]

oldradagast, on 27 June 2016 - 03:26 AM, said:

There is no shortage of mechs in this game that are objectively inferior in every way, or nearly every way, to other mechs. To pretend that they are equal is simply inaccurate, and to use such false statements to then insult another player is childish.

I don't pretend that the mech in games are equal. I pretend that there is no bad mechs, only bad players. My statement wasn't absolute at all.

A good player can perform well in a bad chassis. That's all. This good player will be surely better in a top tier chassis, it's a fact.

But it's not a reason to never drive "bad" chassis. If you can perform well in bad chassis, why not taking them and enjoy the game ?

If you think that the Orion is only good in a brawl, you're probably a bad Orion player and maybe you don't have try enough loadouts on that chassis ? Don't feel insulted. We just don't have the same point of view about this game.