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[8mmspikes]

WHM-6R Gauss sniper pew pew

[mikerso]

Sturmwolf, on 19 January 2016 - 01:01 PM, said:

Just tried that simple build today due to the high amount of lights and mediums.


WHM-6D

No link to smurfy, but I shaved one armor point of each leg, and took off one ton of ams ammo. This let me add on endo steel, and bounce the engine up to a standard 325 for more speed.

I also moved some of the heat sinks to the engine instead of the arms.

[ShadowbaneX]

8mmspikes, on 19 January 2016 - 06:06 PM, said:

WHM-6R Gauss sniper pew pew

Why do you have an extra heat sink on a mech that you can stand in the lava on terra therma and fire forever and never have to worry about over heating?

[Mad Dog Morgan]

When you just want the Black Widow build, but need to go faster.
Fast Widow

When you need more fwoosh in your life
Mjolnir

For laserlasdefl spam
Feldspar

Foehammer
STD UAC-5 6ML
Foehammer

XL 325 UAC 5 6ML
Foehammer

[AesopTails]

I've only been playing with the Widow, but man is it a fun ballistics platform. I was running this build, 4x AC5's. DPS on it is insane (adjust the back armor values to whatever you like, I'm a little too lazy to change them. Keep it in mind for the future builds). Switch out the ML's for ammo if you wish.

Here's some builds I'm planning to run next.

Dual Gauss with 4x ML. 50 pinpoint damage with decent heat seems like a win for me.

AC20 with 4x ML. To me it feels like a Hunchback 4G on steroids.

[Tiberius Augustus]

Great platform especially if you want a fast heavy with decent weapons on it and good armor to boot.....time to solo a atlas or dire wolf

[apostateCourier]

I cracked these out in a post-surgery haze, so I have no idea if they have any merit whatsoever. Feel free to take a look and see though.

All of these run XL 300s and DHS.

WHM-BW
4x AC/2, 2x ML, 2x MPL. This is a goofy machine but I think it'll be fun.

WHM-6D
2x PPC, 5x MPL. Don't fire both sets of weapons at once, but if they're sitting in both range brackets you can get away with doing so occasionally. 20 DHS sees to that.

WHM-6R
2x AC/10, 6xML. Again, don't fire both weapon sets at once, but you can in a pinch. AC/10s don't kill your heat curve the way PPCs do.

WHM-7S
2x PPC, 4x ML, 3x SRM/6. It's basically a menturion with PPCs for long range poking. Again, don't be firing the PPCs alongside the mediums and the missiles. For this machine it's absolutely critical that you do not fire the PPCs with your other weapons.

[Hastur Azargo]

Sadly, the PPCs are underperforming, which is why Warhammers are gonna be running without them. I'll try to run them with PPCs, but I believe they will run too hot and eventually I'll just switch them out for lasers. This is sad, seeing how in the novels even a single PPC was a big deal, and here they're harder to hit with than lasers, hotter and pack less damage than LPLs. Throw in Ghost Heat, minimum range, projectile travel time and you've got an underwhelming weapon, which is also tricky to buff because of PPFLD meta that it used to be part of. PGI has been reasonable with balance recently, so I'm gonna dare to hope this will change for the better, but I still wish PPCs in this game were what they were shown to be in MW5 trailer.

[Kazzun]

Alpha Strike!

WHM-6D
Ang go hide!

Btw u can do it twice followed by 3Lpulses on Caustic.

Edited by Kazzun, 20 January 2016 - 04:18 AM.

[Sturmwolf]

apostateCourier, on 20 January 2016 - 03:30 AM, said:

I cracked these out in a post-surgery haze, so I have no idea if they have any merit whatsoever. Feel free to take a look and see though.

All of these run XL 300s and DHS.

WHM-BW
4x AC/2, 2x ML, 2x MPL. This is a goofy machine but I think it'll be fun.

WHM-6D
2x PPC, 5x MPL. Don't fire both sets of weapons at once, but if they're sitting in both range brackets you can get away with doing so occasionally. 20 DHS sees to that.

WHM-6R
2x AC/10, 6xML. Again, don't fire both weapon sets at once, but you can in a pinch. AC/10s don't kill your heat curve the way PPCs do.

WHM-7S
2x PPC, 4x ML, 3x SRM/6. It's basically a menturion with PPCs for long range poking. Again, don't be firing the PPCs alongside the mediums and the missiles. For this machine it's absolutely critical that you do not fire the PPCs with your other weapons.

I'll try those builds later. Kinda like them.

[apostateCourier]

Hastur Azargo, on 20 January 2016 - 04:13 AM, said:

Sadly, the PPCs are underperforming, which is why Warhammers are gonna be running without them. I'll try to run them with PPCs, but I believe they will run too hot and eventually I'll just switch them out for lasers. This is sad, seeing how in the novels even a single PPC was a big deal, and here they're harder to hit with than lasers, hotter and pack less damage than LPLs. Throw in Ghost Heat, minimum range, projectile travel time and you've got an underwhelming weapon, which is also tricky to buff because of PPFLD meta that it used to be part of. PGI has been reasonable with balance recently, so I'm gonna dare to hope this will change for the better, but I still wish PPCs in this game were what they were shown to be in MW5 trailer.

I agree- it's an easy enough swap to take out the PPCs and replace them with LPLs in my builds. If I'm perfectly honest that'd probably improve them quite a bit, I was just trying to stick to something resembling the original.

[Felix von Buelow]

Tried the following build for the 6R. My heart is bleeding but it works way better than with PPCs...


WHM-6R
290 STD engine
2x UAC5 (6 tons ammo)
2x Medium Laser
1x SRM6 + Art. IV (2 tons ammo)

It is almost heat neutral on caustic!


And an idea for the 6D, not tested yet:

WHM-6D
300 XL engine
4x Large Pulse Laser

(Edit: tested now, it is actually the most successful build of mine)

WHM-7S
325 XL engine
2x LRM15 + Art. IV (7 tons ammo)
1x TAG
5x Medium Laser

thanks to BansheeNTD for the idea of a LRM boat.

Edited by GhostNemesys, 21 January 2016 - 07:03 AM.

[Kazzun]

For those short of Cbills that own a 295xl (Firestarter-Wolfhound) this could be viable. U need only endo.

WHM-6R

U can also swap the ppcs 4 2 Lpls getting 44% Heat efficency.

[Aeon Veritas]

WHM-6R - Mini Atlas
Here, have something that resembles the mini-Atlas build for the Orion ON1-K(C)...
However, I'm not quite sure whether the missilepod will inflate the silhouette to much.
Maybe the main weapons become too vulnerable because of this.

If you are ok with the speed of the Orion (64.8 kph / 69.7 kph tweaked) you could downgrade to the STD280 engine and swap the AC20 to the left Torso, as shown below.
WHM-6R - Mini-Atlas II

[Sigilum Sanctum]

6D - 3LPL 2ML
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...ed36c609441e86f

6R - 2PPC 4ML
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...3dcc1ae4784d080

7S - 3 ASRM6 4MPL (Thanks to JuJu)
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...3870002057a50c8

Black Widow #1 - 3AC5 2ML
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...08150e106b5506d

Black Widow #2 - 2PPC 2AC5
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...dabd1b8d09e47de

[BansheeNTD]

Is current my fav Build~ (:

Edited by BansheeNTD, 20 January 2016 - 12:19 PM.

[Private Backside]

6R with two ac10 and 4ml is kinda nice. so is LPL version of 6D. so is 2LPL 2ERLL version of 7S. BW currently rocking 3ERLL 1Gauss. no opinion so far, need further testing.

mentioned 6R Boobhammer.

[Hemholtz]

Private Backside, on 20 January 2016 - 05:37 PM, said:

-snip-

mentioned 6R Boobhammer.

THE ARMS! SACRILEGE!

Anyway, been running mine near stock with XL engines instead. So far more deaths to CT and 1 ST rear death over 5 matches and 2-3 kills per match I think.

[Private Backside]

Hemholtz, on 20 January 2016 - 07:25 PM, said:

THE ARMS! SACRILEGE!

Anyway, been running mine near stock with XL engines instead. So far more deaths to CT and 1 ST rear death over 5 matches and 2-3 kills per match I think.

who need arms when you have the autocannon boobies!

also yep, it's predominantly ct deaths. like they have a ct bullet magnet installed.

[Reza Malin]

Guys try this

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...3682612deffee65

Use both range and cooldown Large Laser weapon mods too.

You're welcome!

My KD is 5.5 so far in this BW, about 12 matches in, between playing the other variants too.