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#1 SlowPoke79

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Posted 05 February 2018 - 03:12 PM

Does anyone else think that the RAC fire directed toward a mech is ridiculously blinding? PGI I'm sure this seemed like some cool idea, but it's annoying as F**K. Usually you have to change your graphics settings or switch vision mode, which is stupid.

"If your canopy has shielding to protect against PPC and large laser blinding flash, it certainly would filter out flashing from armour piercing rounds."

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#2 Seranov

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Posted 05 February 2018 - 04:06 PM

It's the rounds exploding near your cockpit. It happens with literally all ballistic and missile weapons. It is also the only actually useful function of RACs, so don't expect it to go anywhere. You can just target the guy shooting you and shoot in the center of the target box to hit him center mass. You will easily core him out before he can do it to you, because RAC damage is too hot and too jam-prone, and also is easily spread.

#3 Mole

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Posted 05 February 2018 - 04:12 PM

If you take away the supression effect of RACs then they will be totally worthless. Rendering the recipient of your stream of bullets unable to return fire is the only thing that makes them worth having.

#4 Nema Nabojiv

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Posted 05 February 2018 - 04:19 PM

View PostMole, on 05 February 2018 - 04:12 PM, said:

If you take away the supression effect of RACs then they will be totally worthless. Rendering the recipient of your stream of bullets unable to return fire is the only thing that makes them worth having.

Besides they dont even have a guy to change the colors for heavy lasers. Changing explosion effect is way more complicated task :)

#5 Champion of Khorne Lord of Blood

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Posted 05 February 2018 - 04:55 PM

View PostSlowPoke79, on 05 February 2018 - 03:12 PM, said:

Does anyone else think that the RAC fire directed toward a mech is ridiculously blinding? PGI I'm sure this seemed like some cool idea, but it's annoying as F**K. Usually you have to change your graphics settings or switch vision mode, which is stupid.

"If your canopy has shielding to protect against PPC and large laser blinding flash, it certainly would filter out flashing from armour piercing rounds."

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You can't block smoke with a canopy shield, so you'd still be blinded. Switching vision modes is what it says to do in tutorial to see through enemies hiding behind smoke.

#6 Yosharian

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Posted 05 February 2018 - 08:39 PM

RACs are already pure ****, so I don't think nerfing them is a good idea

#7 PocketYoda

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Posted 05 February 2018 - 08:46 PM

Yes and people are exploiting it.. I know i do as much as i can to get it removed.

#8 MechaBattler

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Posted 05 February 2018 - 10:08 PM

People aim for the cockpit for a reason.

#9 InvictusLee

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Posted 05 February 2018 - 10:25 PM

I hope Pariah doesnt mind me posting his meme here.
I felt like it was super on topic..

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#10 The6thMessenger

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Posted 05 February 2018 - 10:28 PM

View PostNovember11th, on 05 February 2018 - 10:25 PM, said:

I hope Pariah doesnt mind me posting his meme here.
I felt like it was super on topic..

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That's a lot of wasted gases, they could have increased barrel or increased projectile weight. Eitherway that muzzle flash shows that they have too much energy not used to push the bullet out of the barrel.

#11 InvictusLee

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Posted 05 February 2018 - 10:38 PM

View PostThe6thMessenger, on 05 February 2018 - 10:28 PM, said:


That's a lot of wasted gases, they could have increased barrel or increased projectile weight. Eitherway that muzzle flash shows that they have too much energy not used to push the bullet out of the barrel.

Its hilarious, but it actually highlights one of the problems vipers and novas have in common: YOU CANT SEE WHEN YOU FIRE YOUR FRIGGEN MACHIN GUNNNNZ!

#12 TechChris

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Posted 05 February 2018 - 11:07 PM

View PostYosharian, on 05 February 2018 - 08:39 PM, said:

RACs are already pure ****, so I don't think nerfing them is a good idea


Exactly......I've spent a decent amount of time with RAC5's (see pic) as I find them to be an amusing weapon system, especially compared to boring stale meta, and I'd be perfectly on board with removing the "flash" from RACs, IF and I mean only IF, they Noticeably reduced there HPS so there not insanely hot, noticeably reduced the spread, upped the Velocity a smidgen, and Noticeably Increased Jam Bar Dissipation and Jam Bar length, thus making them at least a decently viable weapon system without needing that "Flash" to "Buy them time" in today's Clan Vomit Alpha Poke Meta world.

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#13 Pariah Devalis

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Posted 06 February 2018 - 12:41 PM

View PostNovember11th, on 05 February 2018 - 10:25 PM, said:

I hope Pariah doesnt mind me posting his meme here.
I felt like it was super on topic..

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I was informed a thread needed the meme.

I am happy to see it was deployed post haste without me. :D

#14 InvictusLee

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Posted 06 February 2018 - 01:33 PM

View PostPariah Devalis, on 06 February 2018 - 12:41 PM, said:


I was informed a thread needed the meme.

I am happy to see it was deployed post haste without me. :D
I am glad you share my sense of humor xD

#15 SlowPoke79

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Posted 07 February 2018 - 02:57 PM

View PostMole, on 05 February 2018 - 04:12 PM, said:

If you take away the supression effect of RACs then they will be totally worthless. Rendering the recipient of your stream of bullets unable to return fire is the only thing that makes them worth having.

Yes I do understand the pros/cons of the weapon and when paired with other mechs it's basically used to blind mech's while the rest take you out. Sure one can say that's tactics, but in this case it is that the weapon has been programmed poorly by the developer.

#16 Seranov

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Posted 07 February 2018 - 03:05 PM

View PostSlowPoke79, on 07 February 2018 - 02:57 PM, said:

Yes I do understand the pros/cons of the weapon and when paired with other mechs it's basically used to blind mech's while the rest take you out. Sure one can say that's tactics, but in this case it is that the weapon has been programmed poorly by the developer.


Incorrect. It's programmed exactly the way it's designed to work. You don't like it, but that doesn't mean it doesn't do the thing it is supposed to do.

All you have to do is twist and move into cover and the RAC boat is effectively a waste of tonnage.

#17 Mole

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Posted 07 February 2018 - 03:22 PM

View PostSlowPoke79, on 07 February 2018 - 02:57 PM, said:

Yes I do understand the pros/cons of the weapon and when paired with other mechs it's basically used to blind mech's while the rest take you out. Sure one can say that's tactics, but in this case it is that the weapon has been programmed poorly by the developer.

Okay. Remove the blinding effect and make each slug actually do 5 damage on an RAC/5. You can see just long enough to get sawn in half.

#18 Grus

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Posted 07 February 2018 - 03:22 PM

Im more upset that there isn't more anger nay UPROAR that IS LRM's deal all their damage in 1 hit in contrast to cLRM being a fire hose....

#sarcasm
#grabsthepopcorn

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#19 Athom83

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Posted 07 February 2018 - 07:13 PM

OP seems to be under the false pretense that BT uses AP as its 'standard' ammo type for Autocannons. Hint; It isn't.

#20 SlowPoke79

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Posted 26 February 2018 - 11:05 AM

View PostAthom83, on 07 February 2018 - 07:13 PM, said:

OP seems to be under the false pretense that BT uses AP as its 'standard' ammo type for Autocannons. Hint; It isn't.


LOL....oh ammo type slection was not aware this existed in MWO?





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