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[Bishop Steiner]

For me, I was a little disappointed, I just could not make my TT build work, over all. Perhaps when I get a more functional computer and my new mouse, I'll try it again.

Instead I have settled into these builds:

My Widow... just runs "Super Stock". I like the concept behind the stock build, so I simply streamlined and made it more optimal at doing just that.

My Delta probably seems a bit oddball, but the torso MPL give good punch, and the arm PPCs, range. Why the dual TAG in the arms though? Well, I needed something to push the PPCs into the upper slots. I tried it with lasers, but they didn't really pair with anything...and just made my already too hot mech, even hotter. I realized that TAGs are 1) no heat 2) would still push my PPCs higher, 3) would act like laser sights and actually tell me when my PPCs have clearance, and 4) my LRM packing teammates appreciate it, lol.

On my primary the Collectors 6R, those quirks work nicely to pack that combo of PPCs and UAC5s, and the UACs give great low heat volume fire while my mech is cooling down.

I was having trouble integrating the missiles into a cohesive build, but noticed one thing wit my WHMs, is they were still pretty easy to Light swarm. So since I want all my chassis to serve a different purpose, I equipped it specifically to fight lighter mechs.

well... this one is simple. I need a stock one for Stock Mech Matches. The Pink is because...well..why not, lol?

I refuse to remove the PPCs from the arms. That's is like playing a Modern Air Combat game, and removing the GAU-8 Avenger Cannon from your A-10 to mount more missiles. Espècailly since I see no purpose making a vanilla clone of builds my Grasshoppers and Black Knights already run... and run better.

So yeah, no LEET Tier for me. I'll live. Plus I still find them a lot easier to aim and track with in the arms. And I like the pitch control. But as with most things.... YMMV.

How about you? You keep PPCs, you keep em in the arms?, you make it into a dakkaboat? Not a PPC to be seen? What did you settle on, why, and how is it doing?

[Lykaon]

Havn't had much time to play my Warhammers but I have played a few rounds in the Widowmaker.

After pulling out the suicide box (XL engine)

I tried ER PPC arms ....to hot then PPCs to low and no brawler capacity. I didn't want to be too autocannon centric on a warhammer so I didn't load with AC5s or UAC5s.

I Settled on a heretical build with large lasers in the arms an AC10 with 3 MGs.

[Fiona Marshe]

Widow - squeezed in a STD engine and swapped the SRM6 for a NARC.
6R - stock
7S - changed the PPCs for large pulse and added 2 LRM5 for long range.
6D - haven't decided yet

[Arctourus]

I freaking love these things. Lots of fun, but kind of hard to really customize a lot at their weight level.

My 6r has a ppc in each arm, four mplas in the torso and a pair of machine guns. Wanted to run missiles, but I like to have the left arm ppc and the right arm ppc each on their own group, so I was running out of mouse buttons.

6d runs a ppc in each arm, a lplas in the right torso and three mlas in the left torso

7s is running a bit different....an erllas in each arm, four mlas in the torsos and three lrm 5s. Makes for a little variety.


great, great mech.

[RestosIII]

First of all, I'm SO stealing those laser sight TAGs. Personally, I've only outfitted my 6R and 7S. My 6R is the basic 2 ERPPC+4MLas deal, while my 7S is, well... a bit interesting.
WHM-7S build

Runs dual PPCs in the arms for the iconic WHM look, with 4 MLas and 3 SRM4 launchers in the torso to make it so it isn't deadmeat once someone closes to 90 meters. Sadly, it likes to spontaneously combust due to the fact that it has an AMAZING 23% heat efficiency. So I'm very careful about when I use those PPCs.

[Arctourus]

yeah, heavy weapons plus middlin tonnage makes heat management hard in these things

[Karl Marlow]

My 6D is my favorite so far. Max XL engine. 2 PPCs arm mounted of course. 5 MPL. I only stopped playing it because I needed to basic the other 2

6R. I left the stock engine in. Otherwise 2 PPCs. 4 ML. 1 LRM15. Ams.



The 7S I struggled with. My first impulse was to boat some SRMs but when you play a splatcat only having a SRM6 feels underpowered. I ended up throwing 3 LRM10 on it. 5 ML. Tag. And an uprated XL engine although I don't remember if I maxed it. I'll probably end up shelving it once I basic it.

Edited by ThomasMarik, 25 January 2016 - 07:12 PM.

[AnimeFreak40K]

For me, I'm still trying to figure out some of the finer points and develop my play style a little bit. In general, I feel that the Warhammers are a bit more fragile than they should be for 70 tons...

Anyway, on with the builds:
Black Widow - 2x ERPPC, 2x MPL, SRM4 (1 ton ammo), STD 300 engine and 8x Double Heat Sinks
Warhammer 7S - 6x ML, 3x SRM6 w/Artemis (6 tons ammo), STD 300 engine and 5x Double Heat Sinks
Warhammer 6R - 2x PPC, 4x MPL, STD 300 engine and 7x Double Heat Sinks

[MechWarrior5152251]

I saw one Warhammer get 6 kills. 2LPL and 6 SPL. 8 Energy hard points is pretty deadly....

[RestosIII]

MechWarrior5152251, on 25 January 2016 - 07:42 PM, said:

I saw one Warhammer get 6 kills. 2LPL and 6 SPL. 8 Energy hard points is pretty deadly....

If you're a meta shill that would dare rip PPCs off of a Warhammer. Those arms look too good to do it in good conscience.

[Mohawk Howell]

QUADHAMMER

That is all.

[RestosIII]

Mohawk Howell, on 25 January 2016 - 07:50 PM, said:

QUADHAMMER

That is all.

So, you had your Warhammer exercise that belly fat off, and now it has some muscle mass instead?

[STEF_]

I must say that I'm really loving my whammies. Still grinding, and I like to change builds, but once a mech is elited I can stay with the more sexy built (for my tastes).

After trying a little of BT TT taste, I screw it, because (as we know) MWO has nothing to do with.
So I ended with these:

Black Widow 2uac5/2ac5 (because 4ac5 was to predictible)

R6: 2LPL/2UAC5 super cool in every map

6D: I would like 3LPL/4ml.... but max engine and 2LPL/5mpl is just too lol I cannot stop pilot it, even though it's hot.

7S: still unbasiced, but I'm tempted by 3srm4+6ml......let's see once mastered my beloved Natasha WHM....

o/

[Tarogato]

With your -6D, use Small Lasers instead of TAG. With the tonnage saved you can add an extra DHS and run cooler overall.

[Narcissistic Martyr]

Fundamentally I've designed mine for bracket fire. Meaning I use the PPCs at range and the secondary weapons in close.

6D has XL340, 2PPC, AMS, and 7ML. had 3 tons and one slot left so I threw a command console in it too. I'd rather have more engine but PGI says no... 5/8 heavy mechs belong to the clans only.

7S has 3ASRM6+3 tons and 2PPC and of course AMS.

While I could shove 4ML on instead of artemis and an extra heat sink, I'd rather my SRMs actually hit what I'm aiming at and within the minimum range the ASRM6s hit for nearly 40 damage albeit spread out so it works well enough.

My 6R is running either a STD 280, 2PPC+4MPL and AMS or dual AC20 and a STD270 as an occaisional but quite decent joke build. To be honest, I'd rather be running an XL280, 2PPC, and a pair of UAC5s. Unfortunately buying clan xL engines for MY IICs left me space poor.

Widowmaker. I don't have it yet. Too many clients backed out of their upgrade contracts due to the recent stock market crisis and my business went under. So, I'm back to being IRL poor. Doesn't matter though, I'm not staying down for long and the widowmaker will be a sweet thing to look forward to for when I'm back on top.

Tarogato, on 25 January 2016 - 08:26 PM, said:

With your -6D, use Small Lasers instead of TAG. With the tonnage saved you can add an extra DHS and run cooler overall.

Except they don't work as 0 heat aiming sights to make sure his PPCs don't hit the ground.

Edited by Narcissistic Martyr, 25 January 2016 - 09:22 PM.

[stVillain]

Favorite Warhammer at the moment is the 6R. run it more or less "super stock"

currently haven't settled on either of these 3 builds.

always stock engine. double heat sinks. either BAP (because locking things for sniping with ppcs helps place damage) or AMS (because seriously be a team player)

2x PPC, 2x MGs, SRM6 4x MLs (something to be said about 4x MLs kinda the standard for 20pt damage strike)
2x ER PPC, LRM 10, 2x MGs, 2x MLs, 2x SLs. (LRM 10 and PPC fire gives a great all round performer in the sniper category)
2x PPC, 2x MGs, SRM 6, 2x MLs, 2x SPLs. (press and hold the SRM, SPL, MGs group button for decent brawl damage that still drops heat)

[G Light]

So far the Warhammer I seem to be doing best with is 2 ER large lasers on the right arm, 1 Lrg Pulse laser on the left and 5 Med Pulse lasers in the torso set on chain fire. plus AMS just to keep the rain off my head

It took some practice not to blow myself up but it seems to be working out well.

ERs for sniping, M-pulses for close up and the Large Pulse is added support for either.

[SkaerKrow]

Running my BW mostly stock, outside of the weapons which I've swapped for four AC/2s and four Medium Lasers. All of my other configurations run a mix of Large Lasers, Medium Lasers, and LRMs, except for when I run the double AC/20 Boomhammer.

I really tried to keep the PPCs in play, but they don't work for me at all. I can make PPCs work on Maulers and Marauders, but for some reason they skunk my Warhammers.

[Devil Fox]

It depends on the build... but with the great damage spread and torso twist of the warhammer, I found my aggressive flanking and engagement maneveurs were much too risky for XL engines. I ended up with build decision based solely on heat efficiency, battle effectiveness, and flanking strength.

6R - simple 2xUAC5's (210 rounds) 4xML with a STD 280, it suppresses and flanks at a good speed. It can lay a writhing barrage of focus fire but the downside is the UAC's seem to jam when I need their punch to finish the job.

6D - simple 3xLPL (LT) and 2xML (RT) with a STD (think 295) engine. It's very heat efficent and the 3xLPL burst can often strip and core opponents before they can react, and against mnost IS mechs disable XL engines (particularly other Warhammer's who think XL's are grand to use).

7S - hybrid build of 6xML 2xASRM4's 1xALRM15 with a STD 280 engine. Mixed range build that might still get varied to be more LRM or Laser range heavy build, but still has long range touch and brawls like a boss and performs on par with my other warhammer builds, particularly in close quarter combat.

BW - 3xAC5 4xML with a XL engine. It does the job, and can win most long range trades and flanking maneuvers with quite a punch. I might try something like dual guass on it again and sit back, but it is a solid build with alot of risk due to the XL engine (only way to use more then 2 ballistics).

[Soultraxx]

Ive not spent a lot of time in mine tbh.

The first thing I did when I ran them was get shot of the PPCs - nasty thing that need skill to hit with and I dont have time for skill. I just want to pull the trigger and hear, wubwubwub or bawaa and have insta-damage

All of my builds all run Std engines because I just havent had time to try out Xls yet and as you might have guessed they're all laser boats - except my Widow which runs gauss and 4 Mls. I wonder if Ill be able to fit Gauss and 2 Lpls with an Xl?
Edit added....ive found my Guass blow quite easily so maybe XL isnt a good idea - I shall have to seek advice I think.

Edited by Soultraxx, 26 January 2016 - 12:33 AM.