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[MauttyKoray]

Wildstreak, on 31 January 2016 - 11:25 AM, said:

Then stop being stupid like some others and reposting something ignoring other people's points, just embarrasses you, no one else.

I really could care less if you think its embarrassing me, and no one I'm posting this towards is 'Making a point'. They're just mimicing the "Oh no IS laser ranges are all garbage now! Damn Clanners!" (not always with the Damn Clanners part, but its out there enough) which isn't true and they're either not understanding what was meant by the quirk cap, or are trying to stir up ******** just because.

[Wildstreak]

You specify no names thus you are posting towards everyone including me.
Plus you're wrong.
The math don't matter.

I'll say that again.

The math don't matter.

What matters is certain Mechs using certain weapons are considered a problem. Blanket nerfing all Mechs with a specific quirk is the wrong response, not morally, rationally.
Way back some time ago when Timbers, Dires and Crows were considered a problem, were there blanket nerfs to several Mechs?
When the Thunderbolt-9S was considered a problem, were there blanket nerfs to several Mechs? Were other Thunderbolts touched?
Ad mauseum.
Point is clear, PGI took a proven method used of fixing the specific Mechs using certain things causing a problem and nerfing only those Mechs and threw that out the window for this blanket nerf.
The list I compiled proves it.

The math doesn't matter.

[Lugh]

Russ didn't like long range meta(probably because he has terrible aim) so they nerfed Gauss, PPCs and now long range Lasers.

Get used to it. Anytime one of the hypersensitive development team gets PWNed in a match by something, it gets changed for the worse.

Wildstreak, on 02 February 2016 - 10:43 AM, said:

You specify no names thus you are posting towards everyone including me.
Plus you're wrong.
The math don't matter.

I'll say that again.

The math don't matter.

What matters is certain Mechs using certain weapons are considered a problem. Blanket nerfing all Mechs with a specific quirk is the wrong response, not morally, rationally.
Way back some time ago when Timbers, Dires and Crows were considered a problem, were there blanket nerfs to several Mechs?
Not initially but recently yes
When the Thunderbolt-9S was considered a problem, were there blanket nerfs to several Mechs? Were other Thunderbolts touched?
Ad mauseum.
Point is clear, PGI took a proven method used of fixing the specific Mechs using certain things causing a problem and nerfing only those Mechs and threw that out the window for this blanket nerf.
The list I compiled proves it.
Where is your list? I see only the one mech set and thunderbolt mentioned.
The math doesn't matter.

I'm not sure where you have been, but you sure weren't around for the pop tart apocalypse. Heavy and Assault JJs, PPCs, and the Gauss rifle still haven't recovered from that set of overreactive nonsense.

[Lugh]

Lupis Volk, on 30 January 2016 - 03:31 PM, said:

So i take it all IS players are going to swarm to Clanners in CW/clan mechs in general in protest like the Clanners did to us?

Nope. They know where their bread is buttered. The campaigned complained long and hard to see to it that the clans get nerfed in to the ground. Why would they go there after small reductions on the IS Gigaquirks?

[Moebius Pi]

*Shrug*
Meh. Bringing things back to being reasonable, likely with an extra replacement goody. What nerf? Range buffs right now are patently garbage in terms of balance when said IS mechs average shorter burn times on top of that, at times with additional duration quirks to compliment the extra range. It's ridiculous.

Laser duration quirks as usual get overlooked (and only ran for when they're outright unbalanced to a ridiculous degree). I rarely look at a range-base quirk unless it specifically bumps up crazy short range weapons as a primary draw. Laser duration and energy efficiency on the other hand...

There's a reason I prefer the BJ 1DC over the 1X right now (despite the low engine cap)... and a reason I used the 1X heavily pre-rebalance. It wasn't anything to do with range. If a lot of the affected mechs are getting -that-, or energy efficiency increases, holy ****... that ain't no nerf beyond cutting out some of the boring *** paint-scratch matches dominating a lot of areas into yawn fests. We'll see how it pans out I suppose.

[Almond Brown]

Alistair Winter, on 30 January 2016 - 12:53 PM, said:

Misleading title is misleading.

Replacing range quirks with other quirks is not necessarily a nerf.

In fairness to the OP, without "overt exaggeration" there can be no PANIC induced among the mindless hordes.

Edited by Almond Brown, 02 February 2016 - 11:12 AM.

[Ratpoison]

Oh my, the bittervets are really reaching for those assumptions today.

The hypocrisy in these posts claiming "kneejerk reaction" is delicious.

[Aresye]

Wildstreak, on 02 February 2016 - 10:43 AM, said:

What matters is certain Mechs using certain weapons are considered a problem. Blanket nerfing all Mechs with a specific quirk is the wrong response, not morally, rationally.

Hmmmm...

You mean like every single Clan balance change, ever?

[MeiSooHaityu]

The one I think i'll feel the most is the Cicada 2A. I just got the thing, and now they are nerfing it. *sigh*.

I'm bummed about the Bounty Hunter too, but that isn't really that bad.

[Mechwarrior1441491]

They will absolutely KILL those few light mechs with decent range quirks if they take that much away. Nothing like benching lances worth mechs for the rest of time.

[Clit Beastwood]

blaw blaw blaw blaw

So much whining. If you can't adapt to changes, you are bad.

[Metaccini Alfredo]

Fierostetz, on 02 February 2016 - 01:37 PM, said:

blaw blaw blaw blaw

So much whining. If you can't adapt to changes, you are bad.

qft