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#21 CDLord HHGD

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Posted 02 February 2016 - 05:24 AM

When I lose, whether is a close one or a stomp, I try to be the first to say "gg". When I win, if its a close one I'll put out a "gg". If it's a stomp, I stay quiet and leave.

#22 MeiSooHaityu

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Posted 02 February 2016 - 05:31 AM

View PostSteinar Bergstol, on 02 February 2016 - 05:21 AM, said:


A loveletter to your team (or the other team) instead of gg? Hmm. Lemme give that a try.

Roses are red.
Violets are blue
Your mech went boom
And so did you

Am I doing it right? :D

Seriously though, there's a reason I generally just post "Good job everyone" on team chat rather than say anything on Public after a stomp. It does feel like trying to rub their faces in it, which isn't a nice thing to do.


Very poetic! :D

My intention is to acknowledge a well fought match and not to rub a teams nose in a loss. That's not what GG means to me, but clearly times have changed and I have to change with it I suppose.

That is why I try and get in the habit of the salute "<o". It's not insinuating a good or bad game, it just simply acknowledges the opponent and shows respect. I generally use it when I enter a match and when the match is over. I team chat "GJ" to the team if we kick some butt, and I will use "GG" occasionally in general chat only if the game seemed very close and hard fought.

Its a shame I can't simplify all this with a "GG", but like I said, times are different *shrug".

Edited by MeiSooHaityu, 02 February 2016 - 05:32 AM.


#23 Nostromodamus

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Posted 02 February 2016 - 05:32 AM

View PostAssaultPig, on 02 February 2016 - 05:21 AM, said:

everyone who disagrees with me is a child


Well, when we're talking about people who rage over someone typing 2 letters into chat in an online game, the behavior does correlate with the attitude of a child.

Edited by Nostromodamus, 02 February 2016 - 05:33 AM.


#24 Burke IV

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Posted 02 February 2016 - 05:37 AM

I used to say GG every time, in public chat aswell. Not because it was literally a "good game" but because its the handshake at the end of the match that graceful losers and sporting players understand. These days i try to keep it in team chat incase anybodys bottom is so sore that they cant handle a GG. I have even tryed a WP but even this is greeted with silence most of the time.

If you ever get a GG out of me its just good manners an is not intended to cause distress. What an acheivment, a community that has turned GG into some sort of insult. Posted Image

Edited by Burke IV, 02 February 2016 - 05:37 AM.


#25 DivineEvil

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Posted 02 February 2016 - 05:38 AM

When I play Quick-Play, I only care about my own performance and stats, no matter what mech I play, and if there's problem with it, then I blame it on myself.

Match outcome does not bother me in the least. Oh wait, are we talking about "gg" messages? I don't even notice them anymore.

Edited by DivineEvil, 02 February 2016 - 05:40 AM.


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Posted 02 February 2016 - 05:47 AM

View PostAssaultPig, on 02 February 2016 - 05:21 AM, said:

anyway, my athletic career topped out at city league soccer and some weekend court basketball, but walking up to somebody on a team you just smashed and giving them the 'good game mate, real nice run out there' would have been met with sideways glances at the least. WIn gracefully; both sides know you won big, no need to pretend otherwise or rub their nose in it.
So you did not thank them for the game? I guess you did get those sideways glances anyway for being so stuck up that you cant even thank your game partners for their time and effort.

Clearly im going hyperbolic here. But the thing is saying 'good game mate, real nice run out there' is only an insult if you mean it to be.
Most players understand very well whether you are condescending or sincere (especially in RL where you have more time and a nonverbal component).

So if you get offended by my GG at the end, you are the problem not me. It is not intended to be an Insult and im only responsible for the way i present the information, not how you understand it.

Edited by Jehofi, 02 February 2016 - 05:50 AM.


#27 Crazed Marsupial

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Posted 02 February 2016 - 05:55 AM

I offer the OP two choices of text -


'HA LOSERS - YOU SUCK - NOOBS - GO PLAY TETRIS IDIOTS'

-or-

'gg'


Now please select from the above which is the insulting post-match quip, and which is the almost routine message of sportsmanship that has been used in every multi-player game since the beginning of recorded time. Do ask if you need a clue or hint.

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Posted 02 February 2016 - 06:02 AM

View PostJehofi, on 02 February 2016 - 05:47 AM, said:

So you did not thank them for the game? I guess you did get those sideways glances anyway for being so stuck up that you cant even thank your game partners for their time and effort.

Clearly im going hyperbolic here. But the thing is saying 'good game mate, real nice run out there' is only an insult if you mean it to be.
Most players understand very well whether you are condescending or sincere (especially in RL where you have more time and a nonverbal component).

So if you get offended by my GG at the end, you are the problem not me. It is not intended to be an Insult and im only responsible for the way i present the information, not how you understand it.


your message is what you communicate, not what you intend

sometimes you go over and shake hands or chop it up after a game; sometimes if your side won and the other team seems frustrated you leave it alone.

the part that makes me kinda chuckle about the whole thing is that dudes think typing 'gg' is some kind of deep indication of sportsmanship. No it isn't man, it's two characters. It doesn't mean **** ot anybody and never has, aside from as low level trolling. There was never a time, as far back as the starcraft 1 days, when it's been anything other than that.

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Posted 02 February 2016 - 06:02 AM

View PostTeam Chevy86, on 02 February 2016 - 02:31 AM, said:

12-1 steam roll is not a 'Good game'. Even on the winning side. Why don't you just give us the middle finger and spit on us?
Don't break your arm trying to pat yourself on the back.

:::pissed off rambling @ 3am trying to run non-meta builds getting wrecked by uber-quirked builds. As per usual.

Time to snap out of that victim mentality Jimmy. Maybe the game was really close and the other mechs were severely damaged, maybe (more likely) they weren't. You want to put a stick in there eye? Say thanks for making it short and sweet guys, I needed the cbills.

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Posted 02 February 2016 - 06:03 AM

GG New Car Smell

#31 pbiggz

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Posted 02 February 2016 - 06:03 AM

git gud?

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Posted 02 February 2016 - 06:12 AM

View PostTeam Chevy86, on 02 February 2016 - 04:00 AM, said:


It's not trolling if it's absolutely true. My breaks are becoming longer and more frequent. All it has become is armlock, mass laser alpha, cool off repeat. It gets so boring. I hate it.

I guess you missed what I was saying.
Not about you, about the "gg" crowd.
They are just trolling when it's a roflstomp, so don't even pay attention to it and move along.

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Posted 02 February 2016 - 06:31 AM

View PostAssaultPig, on 02 February 2016 - 06:02 AM, said:

your message is what you communicate, not what you intend
Oh boy are you wrong...

In Communication there are 2 separate parts. Sender & Receiver
In such a simple one way communication you have the role of the Sender. This is your domain of influence, you cannot control what the receiver decodes from your sent information because he is outside of your domain of control. (Im omitting the channel here on which both of you have no influence, besides choosing it.)

Is that clear now or do you simply disagree with FACTS because they don't suit you?

View PostAssaultPig, on 02 February 2016 - 06:02 AM, said:

sometimes you go over and shake hands or chop it up after a game; sometimes if your side won and the other team seems frustrated you leave it alone.
Im not telling you to mindlessly type "GG" after a 12-0. This is still inside of your control to do it or not and thus falls under the category "im only responsible for the way i present the information".

View PostAssaultPig, on 02 February 2016 - 06:02 AM, said:

the part that makes me kinda chuckle about the whole thing is that dudes think typing 'gg' is some kind of deep indication of sportsmanship. No it isn't man, it's two characters.
Just like FU & JK. Just 2 characters with a lot of meaning.

View PostAssaultPig, on 02 February 2016 - 06:02 AM, said:

It doesn't mean **** ot anybody and never has, aside from as low level trolling. There was never a time, as far back as the starcraft 1 days, when it's been anything other than that.
Your are simply wrong and i know that because i am that old. Ofc it was the dawn of internetgaming and a lot stuff was not standardized, but players telling you they enjoyed the game where commonplace.

Edited by Jehofi, 02 February 2016 - 06:32 AM.


#34 MeiSooHaityu

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Posted 02 February 2016 - 06:36 AM

View PostAssaultPig, on 02 February 2016 - 06:02 AM, said:


your message is what you communicate, not what you intend

sometimes you go over and shake hands or chop it up after a game; sometimes if your side won and the other team seems frustrated you leave it alone.

the part that makes me kinda chuckle about the whole thing is that dudes think typing 'gg' is some kind of deep indication of sportsmanship. No it isn't man, it's two characters. It doesn't mean **** ot anybody and never has, aside from as low level trolling. There was never a time, as far back as the starcraft 1 days, when it's been anything other than that.


I agree with the first paragraph. It doesn't matter what you mean, it is how people interpret what you said. That is why I have changed to the salute.

As for your last paragraph, that isn't true at all. If letters were just letters and meant nothing, this thread wouldn't exist. Clearly since we are discussing this, it does mean something and people clearly have strong feelings about this (including yourself).

Oh, and I played a LOT of Quake 2 CTF and the end of the matches were flooded with "gg" over general chat (always way more than one teams worth). I also don't remember any people saying "No, bad game" and the likes. Our Clan was even in OGL (Online Gaming League) and we always greeted people for a match and ended with "gg". I feel this negative reaction is more of a modern issue. Maybe it was brought on by the CoD generation of gamer. I played enough CoD to see how bad and immature their community can be.

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Posted 02 February 2016 - 06:37 AM

I find it relatively funny. If I'm that upset over the match I'm usually not there for the GG's anyway.

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Posted 02 February 2016 - 06:44 AM

View PostMeiSooHaityu, on 02 February 2016 - 05:31 AM, said:

My intention is to acknowledge a well fought match and not to rub a teams nose in a loss. That's not what GG means to me, but clearly times have changed and I have to change with it I suppose.


I disagree. You don't have to change just because some self-entitled lifelong participation trophy **** got his feelings hurt.

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Posted 02 February 2016 - 06:44 AM

View PostMeiSooHaityu, on 02 February 2016 - 06:36 AM, said:


I agree with the first paragraph. It doesn't matter what you mean, it is how people interpret what you said. That is why I have changed to the salute.

As for your last paragraph, that isn't true at all. If letters were just letters and meant nothing, this thread wouldn't exist. Clearly since we are discussing this, it does mean something and people clearly have strong feelings about this (including yourself).

Oh, and I played a LOT of Quake 2 CTF and the end of the matches were flooded with &quot;gg&quot; over general chat (always way more than one teams worth). I also don't remember any people saying &quot;No, bad game&quot; and the likes. Our Clan was even in OGL (Online Gaming League) and we always greeted people for a match and ended with &quot;gg&quot;. I feel this negative reaction is more of a modern issue. Maybe it was brought on by the CoD generation of gamer. I played enough CoD to see how bad and immature their community can be.


This +1

Digital handshake, people leave game seconds after so typing that love letter will leave you with no one to read it.

If I had fun in the game it is a good game, even if I did not have fun. Good game, gg

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Posted 02 February 2016 - 06:47 AM

View PostJehofi, on 02 February 2016 - 06:31 AM, said:

Oh boy are you wrong...

In Communication there are 2 separate parts. Sender & Receiver
In such a simple one way communication you have the role of the Sender. This is your domain of influence, you cannot control what the receiver decodes from your sent information because he is outside of your domain of control. (Im omitting the channel here on which both of you have no influence, besides choosing it.)



I couldn't help it, but this is not correct:

there are four over-arching aspects to communication:

Social Interactions
Social Cognition
Pragmatics (and it's sub-categories)
Language Processing

It is not as simple as sending and receiving, and all communication requires both sides to be responsible for how something is said and received; that is if you are really communicating?

Otherwise, it is probably better defined as verbal graffiti (means something to some, meaningless to others, offends some, or makes others proud; what-have-you).

Edited by Aphoticus, 02 February 2016 - 07:23 AM.


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Posted 02 February 2016 - 07:27 AM

I've actually got into the habit of posting to all in a 12 - 1 steam roll, "GG Super Close!"

Of course that's if I'm on the losing team.

But on the flip side just the other day, Saturday or Sunday I was on the winning team and we rolled the other team. Of course some of the enemy team players were frustrated by it and I acknowledged their frustration. I said if it's any consolation I feel bad for you, stating that I knew what it was like and that it sucks to get rolled like that.

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Posted 02 February 2016 - 07:33 AM

View PostMystere, on 02 February 2016 - 06:44 AM, said:


I disagree. You don't have to change just because some self-entitled lifelong participation trophy **** got his feelings hurt.


You are right, I don't have to change, but I did anyway.

With a salute, I can still accomplish what I intend without it getting spun negatively by anyone, and that just makes the message more accepting and less "confusing" to others. Overall my message is more important than how I voice it. The message is still intact with a salute (which is a universal sign of respect), so I feel it doesn't take away from what I am trying to say.

However, it doesn't mean I agree with what has happened to "gg" in the community and other communities. I'm willing to discuss and debate that here in the forums.

When it comes to in-game however, there isn't the time to explain my intentions of a "gg" or type a congratulatory message before the end match summary cuts me off (not to mention how tiring that would get after the 100th or 200th match anyway).

For in-game, the salute is fine. For the forums, I'll contribute to threads like this and voice my displeasure in how the community can twist a gesture's meaning because they are angry and hurt over their poor performance or their team's performance.

Edited by MeiSooHaityu, 02 February 2016 - 07:37 AM.






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